FCC considering lowering Broadband standard from 25mbps to 10mbps

[13Gigatons]

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/...lan-to-Lower-Broadband-Standards-Crazy-140376

Sigh...it should be 100mbps symmetrical by now and cost $25.

 

[sandorski]

MAGA!

 

[tommo123]

let me guess, something something something cable companies fearing netflix etc

 

[renz20003]

If people could come together and boycott in mass maybe we would finally get what we want...

 

[John Connor]

I guess it comes down to, how to attract big ISPs to install infrastructure in areas that don't have it. If ISPs don't see a good enough return on their investment, then why should they lay out the infrastructure?

I do know that fiber is being placed all over hell in North Dakota because my dad works for a company doing it.

 

[tommo123]

I guess it comes down to, how to attract big ISPs to install infrastructure in areas that don't have it. If ISPs don't see a good enough return on their investment, then why should they lay out the infrastructure?

I do know that fiber is being placed all over hell in North Dakota because my dad works for a company doing it.

don't they also attack communities who try to do it themselves as they don't like the competition?

 

[John Connor]

I don't understand who "they" is? The FCC?

 

[Thebobo]

I don't understand who "they" is? The FCC?

Seems like you already know, it's the big ISPs. Happens all over the country with communities trying to provide local broadband. Not sure what Trumps FCC has to say about community providers or if its even their business but I would guess it's not good for local community providers.

 

[sandorski]

I guess it comes down to, how to attract big ISPs to install infrastructure in areas that don't have it. If ISPs don't see a good enough return on their investment, then why should they lay out the infrastructure?

I do know that fiber is being placed all over hell in North Dakota because my dad works for a company doing it.

Why would this regulation change affect that?

 

[Red Squirrel]

They need to allow free market for ISPs. Ex: allow anyone to start an ISP. It would create competition and FORCE isps to offer better service.

I guess the issue with that is you end up with this:

So I can sorta see why they don't allow competition. But they should at least do it on a limited basis. Like allow up to 10 ISPs per city or something.

Or even better, cities should have infrastructure in place that goes to a head office, then ISPs can cross connect to their own head offices. So each house gets a strand of fibre and there can be any amount of ISPs and they all use the same fibre, it's just a matter of connecting it at the other end. But that would make too much sense.

 

[repoman0]

Pretty sweet here in the city having two providers competing to sell me gigabit internet with no throttling for as cheap as they possibly can ... currently both under $70. The rural parts of the country voted for this, so they can have it.

 

[Sonikku]

By lowering standards on what constitutes broadband, Trump will expand the number of American households that can access broadband.

Heck, just qualify 56k as broadband and 100% of America will have access to "broadband"!

 

[Thebobo]

By lowering standards on what constitutes broadband, Trump will expand the number of American households that can access broadband.

Heck, just qualify 56k as broadband and 100% of America will have access to "broadband"!

That's true and then he cans say I did this me me me.

 

[Sonikku]

That's true and then he cans say I did this me me me.

But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of Plenty's figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the material that you were dealing with had no connexion with anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their rectified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head.

For example, the Ministry of Plenty's forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at one-hundred-and-forty-five million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than one-hundred-and-forty-five millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot. And so it was with every class of recorded fact, great or small.

 

[sdifox]

I had 6mbps cable internet in the 90s...

 

[Wreckem]

I guess it comes down to, how to attract big ISPs to install infrastructure in areas that don't have it. If ISPs don't see a good enough return on their investment, then why should they lay out the infrastructure?

I do know that fiber is being placed all over hell in North Dakota because my dad works for a company doing it.

I don't really buy the whole rural development isn't profitable.

I am moving 20 miles out side of Dallas and I have the option of Att 1gigabit symmetrical or Suddenlink. 1Gigabit50Mbps. Basically when I move Ill be having ATT 1Gig and Suddenlink Cable(I prefer TiVo over uverses DVRs). Population is 19,000 but it's spread over a large area for that population size. Keep in mind this is a brand new development. My builder has closed 15 houses before mine next month. One of the other hasn't closed one and the last one has closed five. About 100 houses are under contract out of the ~150 in phase one.

 

[pete6032]

If people could come together and boycott in mass maybe we would finally get what we want...

The last time americans came together to boycott, they boycotted the republican party establishment and elected Donald Trump presidents.

 

[Chaotic42]

I had 6mbps cable internet in the 90s...

I had 100Mb up/down in 1998... in Mississippi.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

I want to complain about my speeds. I am getting about 45% of what is expected of my Gigabit service pumped through my VPN service provider. So slow.
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6650279610

 

[sdifox]

I want to complain about my speeds. I am getting about 45% of what is expected of my Gigabit service pumped through my VPN service provider. So slow.
http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6650279610

Get a better vpn

 

[BarkingGhostar]

Not many that I know of that support more bandwidth. When it gets really bad it drops to one tenth that value, but then I've seen it hit three times that measure.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'd be surprised if any VPN will support gig speeds sustained. That is a lot of bandwidth especially considering they more than likely have many customers on the same server as they would not be able to afford to run otherwise. Unless they're putting multiple 40 gig fibre cards in the servers the server itself probably can't even do more than a few gigs.

 

[Gryz]

I had 100Mb up/down in 1998... in Mississippi.

I don't believe that.

You could have had 100 Mbps ethernet. But Fast Ethernet was still relatively new in 1998. Also FE over copper can do limited distances, so unless you lived close to an ISP's POP, it's unlikely you had 100 Mbps FE. Of course you can do Ethernet over fiber, but I doubt there were many fiber cables in the ground in the US, to people's homes.

In 1998 ISPs built their backbones with ATM or PoS (Packet over Sonet). Those use OC-3 (155 Mbps) or OC-12 (622 Mbps). But the router-interfaces alone for those were unbelievably expensive. I don't think you had one of those.

So please enlighten us: what technology did your 100 Mbps link use. And what equipement did you and your ISP use. If you can't answer those questions (and I'm pretty sure you can't), I'm calling bullshit.

 

[Gryz]

I had 6mbps cable internet in the 90s...

I have 6 Mbps DSL at home today. The best I can get. (I'm not in the US). I live 1500 meters outside a village. In the village people can have fast internet-over-cable or fiber. Outside the village, half the people have cable, half the people only have slow DSL.

The fun thing is, I write software for a router that can do 144 TeraBit/second. (12 Tbps per linecard). My ISP is actually a customer of my employer. But the ISP offers me only 6 Mbps .... If that ISP would offer everyone in the country only 6 Mbps, they could connect the whole country (17 million people) via one router ....

 

[sdifox]

I have 6 Mbps DSL at home today. The best I can get. (I'm not in the US). I live 1500 meters outside a village. In the village people can have fast internet-over-cable or fiber. Outside the village, half the people have cable, half the people only have slow DSL.

The fun thing is, I write software for a router that can do 144 TeraBit/second. (12 Tbps per linecard). My ISP is actually a customer of my employer. But the ISP offers me only 6 Mbps .... If that ISP would offer everyone in the country only 6 Mbps, they could connect the whole country (17 million people) via one router ....

I was part of the test rollout of cable internet. Had a big hunking Motorola cable modem and it was hot.