FBI's renewed War on Porn

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The FBI is joining the Bush administration's War on Porn. And it's looking for a few good agents.

Early last month, the bureau's Washington Field Office began recruiting for a new anti-obscenity squad. Attached to the job posting was a July 29 Electronic Communication from FBI headquarters to all 56 field offices, describing the initiative as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales and, by extension, of "the Director." That would be FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III.

Mischievous commentary began propagating around the water coolers at 601 Fourth St. NW and its satellites, where the FBI's second-largest field office concentrates on national security, high-technology crimes and public corruption.

The new squad will divert eight agents, a supervisor and assorted support staff to gather evidence against "manufacturers and purveyors" of pornography -- not the kind exploiting children, but the kind that depicts, and is marketed to, consenting adults.

"I guess this means we've won the war on terror," said one exasperated FBI agent, speaking on the condition of anonymity because poking fun at headquarters is not regarded as career-enhancing. "We must not need any more resources for espionage."

Among friends and trusted colleagues, an experienced national security analyst said, "it's a running joke for us."

A few of the printable samples:

"Things I Don't Want On My Résumé, Volume Four."

"I already gave at home."

"Honestly, most of the guys would have to recuse themselves."

Federal obscenity prosecutions, which have been out of style since Attorney General Edwin Meese III in the Reagan administration made pornography a signature issue in the 1980s, do "encounter many legal issues, including First Amendment claims," the FBI headquarters memo noted.

Applicants for the porn squad should therefore have a stomach for the kind of material that tends to be most offensive to local juries. Community standards -- along with a prurient purpose and absence of artistic merit -- define criminal obscenity under current Supreme Court doctrine.

"Based on a review of past successful cases in a variety of jurisdictions," the memo said, the best odds of conviction come with pornography that "includes bestiality, urination, defecation, as well as sadistic and masochistic behavior." No word on the universe of other kinks that helps make porn a multibillion-dollar industry.

Popular acceptance of hard-core pornography has come a long way, with some of its stars becoming mainstream celebrities and their products -- once confined to seedy shops and theaters -- being "purveyed" by upscale hotels and most home cable and satellite television systems. Explicit sexual entertainment is a profit center for companies including General Motors Corp. and Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. (the two major owners of DirecTV), Time Warner Inc. and the Sheraton, Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt hotel chains.

But Gonzales endorses the rationale of predecessor Meese: that adult pornography is a threat to families and children. Christian conservatives, long skeptical of Gonzales, greeted the pornography initiative with what the Family Research Council called "a growing sense of confidence in our new attorney general."

Congress began funding the obscenity initiative in fiscal 2005 and specified that the FBI must devote 10 agents to adult pornography. The bureau decided to create a dedicated squad only in the Washington Field Office. "All other field offices may investigate obscenity cases pursuant to this initiative if resources are available," the directive from headquarters said. "Field offices should not, however, divert resources from higher priority matters, such as public corruption."

Public corruption, officially, is fourth on the FBI's priority list, after protecting the United States from terrorist attack, foreign espionage and cyber-based attacks. Just below those priorities are civil rights, organized crime, white-collar crime and "significant violent crime." The guidance from headquarters does not mention where pornography fits in.

"The Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation's top priority remains fighting the war on terrorism," said Justice Department press secretary Brian Roehrkasse. "However, it is not our sole priority. In fact, Congress has directed the department to focus on other priorities, such as obscenity."

At the FBI's field office, spokeswoman Debra Weierman expressed disappointment that some of her colleagues find grist for humor in the new campaign. "The adult obscenity squad . . . stems from an attorney general mandate, funded by Congress," she said. "The personnel assigned to this initiative take the responsibility of this assignment very seriously and are dedicated to the success of this program."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...cle/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570_pf.html
 

Todd33

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Explicit sexual entertainment is a profit center for companies including General Motors Corp. and Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.

LOL. I don't expect the anti-porn thing to take off. Too much money and the Republican men love it in secret, after their wife goes to bed that is.
 

cwjerome

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Can I volunteer to go undercover? I'm sure I'll locate plenty of good stuff... uh, I mean evil porno.... yeah.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Can I volunteer to go undercover? I'm sure I'll locate plenty of good stuff... uh, I mean evil porno.... yeah.

as Ron Jeremy's stunt double ?
 

musicc

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You can control porn, but you can't control terror. Which fight would you take on and look good doing it?
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: musicc
You can control porn, but you can't control terror. Which fight would you take on and look good doing it?


. . or . . .

which gun do you want to shoot with ?
 

Bitek

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What an F'ing waste of time.

Iraq, Katrina, WoT, Bin Laden....

Now wait, let's go after b00bies! Clearly they are America's greatest threat
 

Zorba

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Originally posted by: musicc
You can control porn, but you can't control terror. Which fight would you take on and look good doing it?


Do you really think that porn could be controlled? Only as well as drugs can be controlled.

Plus you have that first amendment to deal with. This is a complete waste of time and money.
 

shira

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the best odds of conviction come with pornography that "includes . . . urination, defecation. . ."

Can someone explain to me how a person who gets off on watching two people pissing or pooping on each other is a threat to family and communithy?
 

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Originally posted by: Zorba
Originally posted by: musicc
You can control porn, but you can't control terror. Which fight would you take on and look good doing it?


Do you really think that porn could be controlled? Only as well as drugs can be controlled.

Plus you have that first amendment to deal with. This is a complete waste of time and money.


I am sure they can with web filter and such. Beside it is alot easier to get porn producers then terrorist. I think war on porn is more like a PR stun.
 

CanOWorms

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There was some news a few weeks ago about the UK banning the viewing of some forms of pornography, too.

I think it would be for the best if we just surgically operated on everyone's brain to remove the parts that relate anyway to sex.
 

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
There was some news a few weeks ago about the UK banning the viewing of some forms of pornography, too.

I think it would be for the best if we just surgically operated on everyone's brain to remove the parts that relate anyway to sex.

"Wrong head" operation! :eek:
 

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I'll have to agree with the FBI agent who suggesting this must mean we've won the war on terror. Under other circumstances, this would just be sad, but diverting federal resources from terrorism to pornography seems a little beyond sad. Enough pandering to the retarded righties (like looney liberals I suppose), do your damn job. And despite what our "justice" department might think, I don't think porn is a priority. And I seriously question the sanity of those who do.
 

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Originally posted by: Hafen
What an F'ing waste of time.

Iraq, Katrina, WoT, Bin Laden....

Now wait, let's go after b00bies! Clearly they are America's greatest threat

I hate to say it, but this kind of crap (that's eminating from BOTH sides) I almost see as an admission that the country is completely fscked beyond repair and it's just a matter of "looking good" (while they clean the coffers out) until the country (if not the planet) implodes.

Maybe it's that "rapture" business again (why bother fixing anything when the end is coming soon anyway)?
 

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So now it' its porn that will destroy "family values". Add the to gay marraige, the public schools, etc., and you certainly seem to get the impression that the "family values" of the fundies are too fragile to be exposed much outside of their own microcosm; too weak to stand on their own against other ideas.
 

MadRat

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I think the extra hours I have to spend to earn a living equate to a Republican War on Family.

I didn't have this problem six years ago.
 

cwjerome

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I think the federal government should declare war on chiggers... much more annoying than T&A
 

TheSlamma

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I think I'm gonna go down to my local Goodwill and just steal a stack of donation vouchers, do the same for HfH and other charities. I'm gonna writeoff as much stuff as possible so I'm not giving the gov any more money then I can help.

I don't need to be protected from porn, I don't enjoy it so guess what? I don't watch it, wow tht was hard. Stop wasting our fvcking tax dollars on your Christian opinions, faith is a personal thing don't make it my business.
 

MadRat

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Do you think a bunch of pervs rioting over this new porn initiative - at the gates of the White House - would get a positive public welcome?