FBI to reform and focus less on crime and more on terroism..

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linky

Good choice, or ill thought out reactionary decision?

 

[BCYL]

It's about time.... They should let the local law enforcement departments take care of crimes instead of using the FBI's resources.... the FBI should focus on a more global picture (ie. Terroism)...

 

[Sir Fredrick]

Originally posted by: BCYL
It's about time.... They should let the local law enforcement departments take care of crimes instead of using the FBI's resources.... the FBI should focus on a more global picture (ie. Terroism)...

I'm not so sure, what about federal crimes committed in several states?

 

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In my rather uninformed opinion, I think that the FBI and CIA need to have a little more cross talk or cooperation than they have in the past. It used to be that the FBI was strictly domestic, and the CIA was international, and very little intelligence floated between the two.

I think making the flow of info between the two is a crucial step that is necessary in the prevention and/or detection of future threats.

 

[BCYL]

Originally posted by: Sir Fredrick

Originally posted by: BCYL
It's about time.... They should let the local law enforcement departments take care of crimes instead of using the FBI's resources.... the FBI should focus on a more global picture (ie. Terroism)...

I'm not so sure, what about federal crimes committed in several states?

In those cases, the respective local departments should still be able to coordinate their effects and solve the crimes together... until this is not an efficient solution should the FBI step in...

 

[Squisher]

I just wish that all of the law enforcement agencies would communicate with a productive intelligence that do not use now. Right now the arrogance and competitiveness of these agencies handicaps their effectiveness.

 

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I just wish that all of the law enforcement agencies would communicate with a productive intelligence that do not use now. Right now the arrogance and competitiveness of these agencies handicaps their effectiveness.

Some countries have what are refered to as "National" police, basically a police department that has no boundries. Sort of like the FBI, but with a much greater involvement at a micro level.

Such an organization would never fly here because of people screaming civil injustice. Just look at the outcry over a nation drivers license that we have here in the states.

I myself remain on the fence about it. I can see the advantages, and I can see the disadvantages. But, I'm not sure which ones are more important.

 

[UltraQuiet]

In my rather uninformed opinion, I think that the FBI and CIA need to have a little more cross talk or cooperation than they have in the past. It used to be that the FBI was strictly domestic, and the CIA was international, and very little intelligence floated between the two

If I remember correctly ( and I have another window open looking) the CIA is forbidden by law to operate domestically. Someone correct me if I am wrong. But if I am correct I wonder how this new cooperation circumvents those laws or if there is some sort of oversight to monitor it. Don't get me wrong I am not necessarily against it, just curious.

 

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If I remember correctly ( and I have another window open looking) the CIA is forbidden by law to operate domestically

If you are correct Dave, then that's something that I never knew about. Then again, I never really actively looked for an answer either 😱

If you are correct, then I see that as a huge issue that needs to be addressed at the very least. Otherwise, how is information passed along from international sources to matched up against information that is obtained locally? Is it all passed through the Executive branch?

 

[XMan]

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If I remember correctly ( and I have another window open looking) the CIA is forbidden by law to operate domestically. Someone correct me if I am wrong. But if I am correct I wonder how this new cooperation circumvents those laws or if there is some sort of oversight to monitor it. Don't get me wrong I am not necessarily against it, just curious.

That is correct! When the Congress created the FBI and CIA, the CIA was to be a strictly external agency, while the FBI would be domestic. By Federal law they are restricted from working together. Which makes the gripes about intelligence snafus coming from Congress all the more stupid. Hey, dorks - you created the playing field, and you wanna blame the agents for following the rules? You can't have it both ways!

 

[UltraQuiet]

This is from the CIA website.

By law, the CIA is specifically prohibited from collecting foreign intelligence concerning the domestic activities of US citizens. Its mission is to collect information related to foreign intelligence and foreign counterintelligence. By direction of the President in Executive Order 12333 of 1981 and in accordance with procedures issued by the Director of Central Intelligence and approved by the Attorney General, the CIA is restricted in the collection of intelligence information directed against US citizens. Collection is allowed only for an authorized intelligence purpose; for example, if there is a reason to believe that an individual is involved in espionage or international terrorist activities. The CIA's procedures require senior approval for any such collection that is allowed, and, depending on the collection technique employed, the sanction of the Attorney General and Director of Central Intelligence may be required. These restrictions on the CIA have been in effect since the 1970s.

Here's a link to the Executive Order 12333 EO 12333. If I read this right it say the CIA can "operate" domestically if it is coordinated with the FBI. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.


Dave