FBI fires Strzok over anti-Trump texts

emperus

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I found this troubling. He shouldn't have sent those texts via his FBI account. But, noone has said there was any bias in how he handled any of his cases. I don't understand what the fireable offense was. Demoting him, for sending personal texts, maybe. I think he should sue the FBI.

The FBI has fired Peter Strzok, the counterintelligence agent who came under fire for sending disparaging text messages about President Trumpand other political figures during the 2016 election.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/401558-fbi-fires-strzok-over-anti-trump-texts
 

DrunkenSano

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Pretty sure if you send disparaging remarks about your company's CEO or other senior management with company email, you could get fired too. Hell, people have been getting fired for stupid shit they post on social media these days, though that is probably more in the private sector. It was dumb of him to not use a personal account.
 

Thebobo

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This was on a government phone? That the only thing I could think of. But damn all the government could be fired that have gov phones probably.

Is Trumps phone he uses to twitter government issue?
 

trenchfoot

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Seems to me he had to be made an example of or at the least be removed as a possible reason for Sessions to fire Rosenstein thus enabling Trump to finally be able to clear a path for them to dump the Mueller investigation.

Could be a re-hire after this surreal situation with Trump's coziness with Putin and his Russian oligarch buddies is over with. It would be a damn shame to lose a guy with that much experience over a ginned up accusation coming from the Trump troglodytes.
 

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I am not exactly troubled by this. There is some concern that it's riding a slippery slope to firing Mueller, but it is otherwise a reasonable thing to do given the circumstances. Although reasonable, I do find it the wrong action to take.
 

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I am not exactly troubled by this. There is some concern that it's riding a slippery slope to firing Mueller, but it is otherwise a reasonable thing to do given the circumstances. Although reasonable, I do find it the wrong action to take.

I’m confused - why is it reasonable? This appears to be the FBI caving to political pressure, providing further evidence that law enforcement is being corrupted by Trump.
 

theeedude

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Pretty sure if you send disparaging remarks about your company's CEO or other senior management with company email, you could get fired too. Hell, people have been getting fired for stupid shit they post on social media these days, though that is probably more in the private sector. It was dumb of him to not use a personal account.
US government is not a corporation.
 

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Peter Strozk’s texts ripped on everyone. Hillary, Bernie, and Trump were all criticized but the Trump texts are what got him fired. That’s really fucked up.

Moreover, he was one of the best spy hunters in the FBI. Especially Russian spies. He was the guy who led Operation Ghost Stories (look it up).

Russia wins again. Another anti-Putin asset burned.

This country is fucked.
 

Commodus

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Pretty sure if you send disparaging remarks about your company's CEO or other senior management with company email, you could get fired too. Hell, people have been getting fired for stupid shit they post on social media these days, though that is probably more in the private sector. It was dumb of him to not use a personal account.

Here's the problem: Trump wasn't his boss in 2016. Might not have been professional, but he wasn't disparaging higher-ups. This is purely punishment for daring to investigate Divine Leader Trump.
 

HomerJS

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Fired by Deputy FBI Director. Wonder why Wray didn't do it? Maybe he think the firing is without merit?
 

Thebobo

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Well at least now he can speak his mind now. Tell you what he was real good at the hearing talking, bet he makes his way to CNN or the like.
 

fskimospy

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The fact that the deputy director acted against the recommendations of the FBI's own disciplinary unit makes me think this isn't the last we will hear about this.
 
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Moonbeam

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The fact that the deputy director acted against the recommendations of the FBI's own disciplinary unit makes me think this isn't the last we will hear about this.
There has to be a story there somewhere. I went and looked him up and read his bio but got no insight into the matter. Looks for all the world like a sacrifice of some kind to me, but to what god? My concern is that when liberal goes up against conservative in a war that requires focused intent, conservatives will win. They function at the level of disgust and that's one of our most deeply ingrained survival mechanisms. Disgust provokes a deep need to cleanse.
 

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I’m confused - why is it reasonable? This appears to be the FBI caving to political pressure, providing further evidence that law enforcement is being corrupted by Trump.

Because his actions unrelated to his job duties harmed the FBI. There's a lot not to like about his firing and the timing, but it doesn't change that basic fact.
 

UNCjigga

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If you work for the Federal government, you no longer have the right to express any personal opinions or political affiliations while using Government property.

Anything you say can and will be used against you if it helps the current Administration.
 

fskimospy

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Because his actions unrelated to his job duties harmed the FBI. There's a lot not to like about his firing and the timing, but it doesn't change that basic fact.

Those same actions have probably been taken by thousands of other FBI employees who have not been terminated. I feel like there's a decent chance this firing violates federal civil service law and I suspect we'll see a lawsuit over it in the near future.

EDIT: It is entirely obvious that Strzok was fired because of his political views and his constitutionally protected speech. There was a specific Inspector General investigation that examined him and found no professional misconduct.