father of slain soldier...

[OutHouse]

So why dont a bunch of ex-military put on their uniforms and go to these creeps church on Sunday? I would target the church, the town and set up protestors clogging up all the traffick in the community for the next year or so till the community asked these creeps to leave. By this times there must be plenty of mad people willing to work on such a project. Freedom of speech is a two-way street.

because we all have jobs unlike the slimeballs at that cult.

 

[irishScott]

because we all have jobs unlike the slimeballs at that cult.

That and said cult thrives on hate. They're one of those organizations that rationalizes that they're right by internalizing the negative attention they receive. Being the only ones with their point of view makes them feel special. Picketing them would be a waste of time.

Although I will admit if it was my family member's funeral they were picketing you can rest assured a number of "harmless pranks" would occur where they happen to be picketing. Would be amusing and damned cathartic if nothing else.

 

[Thump553]

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Also, I've heard lawyers say that only in cases of frivilous lawsuits should the 'loser' be required to pay the 'winners' costs. If so, since the father won in the previous court I can't see how the lawsuit was frivilous.
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Fern

You misunderstood or are confusing court costs with actual legal fees. Under the American justice system actual full legal expenses (including actual attorney fees) are ony awarded in two situations: (1) where the underlying statute specifically allows it (example is discrimination cases) and (2) some states and the federal court system allow them in actions that are brought frivilously. I doubt the fivilous lawsuit rule was applied here-it's not mentioned in the article, it's extremely hard to prevail (the firm I was with had to defend hundreds of these claims and only once did I ever see our claim for frivilous claim fees win-the second time the person ligitgated the same claim and we ended up before the same federal judge).

Court costs are awarded in all cases that reach a final decision, unless they are waived by the prevailing party. The amount of court costs is specifically set by rules, for example, $xx cente per page of the transcripts paid for by the prevailing party.

Also these aren't different cases, they are the same case. The father won at the trial court, it was reversed on appeal. A further appeal of the same case is pending before the US Supreme Court.

As to the underlying merits of the case, I haven't read the record or the briefs so I can't give a full opinion, but personally I am inclined our Constitutional rights so I'm inclined to support the Fourth Circuit's decision. There's an old saying "Hard cases make bad law" and I'd hate to see all of our freedoms permanently diminished to get retailiation against this wacko cult.

 

[Patranus]

Fox News host Bill O'Reilly will pick up the legal tab of the father of a fallen U.S. Marine after a judge ruled that he must pay the court costs incurred by the members of the controversial Westboro Baptist Church, whom he sued for protesting his son's funeral.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/31/bill-oreilly-to-pay-court_n_520669.html

But I thought he was the devil?

 

[GoPackGo]

These whack jobs are totally in the wrong.

They are in the same group as Pat Robertson who said Haiti was punished by God for some "deal with the devil"

A couple of weeks ago the pastor in my church explained it quite well...and please no religious flame fest...we all know what people who are atheists think.

What he said...When Jesus died on the cross, he accepted full punishment for all of our sins. To think that God punished Haiti or God punished the soldiers would mean that Jesus' sacrifice was not payment in full.

He goes on further to explain...why do bad things happen? We live in an imperfect world and we are given free will. Bad things happen to good people per bad chance...there is no divine intervention...

He backed it up with verses in the Bible, of course I don't remember those...LOL...just the message.

 

[Sclamoz]

These whack jobs are totally in the wrong.

They are in the same group as Pat Robertson who said Haiti was punished by God for some "deal with the devil"

A couple of weeks ago the pastor in my church explained it quite well...and please no religious flame fest...we all know what people who are atheists think.

What he said...When Jesus died on the cross, he accepted full punishment for all of our sins. To think that God punished Haiti or God punished the soldiers would mean that Jesus' sacrifice was not payment in full.

He goes on further to explain...why do bad things happen? We live in an imperfect world and we are given free will. Bad things happen to good people per bad chance...there is no divine intervention...

He backed it up with verses in the Bible, of course I don't remember those...LOL...just the message.

Does that mean there is no divine intervention AFTER the death of Jesus or ever? I'm sure if I tried I could find bible passages to support the idea that god was responsible for natural disasters.

 

[GoPackGo]

Does that mean there is no divine intervention AFTER the death of Jesus or ever? I'm sure if I tried I could find bible passages to support the idea that god was responsible for natural disasters.

Well...before there are all sorts of stories of God's wrath.

Now, and I am no expert, but I think it means that miracles and prayers being answered is still possible, but never guaranteed.

 

[piasabird]

People just dont understand their own power. There are more military members than church members. People should rise up and protest more.