Father of Columbine victim states conservative point of view on CBS

[ProfJohn]

Saw this on O'Reilly tonight so I went over to CBS and got the info.
If you remember the TV coverage of Columbine this man's son was the one laying on the side walk outside the school for a few hours.
CBS started a new segment called "freesspeech" this is what he said:

I'm saddened and shaken by the shooting at an Amish school today, and last week?s school murders.

When my son Dan was murdered on the sidewalk at Columbine High School on April 20, 1999, I hoped that would be the last school shooting. Since that day, I?ve tried to answer the question, "Why did this happen?"

This country is in a moral free-fall. For over two generations, the public school system has taught in a moral vacuum, expelling God from the school and from the government, replacing him with evolution, where the strong kill the weak, without moral consequences and life has no inherent value.

We teach there are no absolutes, no right or wrong. And I assure you the murder of innocent children is always wrong, including by abortion. Abortion has diminished the value of children.

Suicide has become an acceptable action and has further emboldened these criminals. And we are seeing an epidemic increase in murder-suicide attacks on our children.

Sadly, our schools are not safe. In fact, we now witness that within our schools. Our children have become a target of terrorists from within the United States.

The evolution comment is in regards to the fact that killers at Columbine said on a video tape that what they were doing was "survival of the fittest" and one of them wore a shirt that said "Natural Selection"
FreeSpeech: Brian Rohrbough

Sorry PJ, this thread veered off topuc and turned into pissing match between the Left and the Right about who is and who isn't a Troll.

To those accusing the Prof of being zendari or another returning banned member, there is no proof of that and until there is or you can show us proof please refrain from making baseless accusations

 

[ProfJohn]

Katie's comments

We?ve gotten a lot of comments and feedback about last night?s ?freeSpeech,? which featured a father whose son was killed at Columbine.

A lot of the comments were negative, like these:

Your free speech segment today was the biggest load of hogwash I have ever witnessed. How could you use an unspeakable tragedy to give a rightwing flat earth nut job a podium?

Tonite, you have some idiot who tragically lost his son at Columbine?he has my sympathy, but he does not deserve a spot on the Evening News to spout his political views.

This ultra right wing religious right drivel is a disgrace.

But we also received some positive feedback:

The Free Speech segment from the father of the Columbine student was one of the finest pieces I have ever heard on network news. My sincere appreciation goes to CBS for the courage to air it.

Thank you! As the mother of three children, I applaud your episode of Free Speech tonight. I?m sure that you will receive many e-mails denouncing your segment, but I appreciate hearing a ?conservative? view in what can be a very liberal media?I live in the heartland of America (Kansas) and believe we all need a strong faith to get through difficult times.

I never thought I would hear such words on any network television station. He said all the things I have been thinking since the ?60s.

Clearly, this struck a nerve.

We knew when we decided to put on this segment that a lot of people would disagree with it. We also knew some might even find it repugnant. (Some of you made that point loud and clear!)

But that is the very essence of what we try to do with the ?freeSpeech? segment. This is a platform for our viewers to hear from a wide range of people ? those who may share your views, and those who don?t.

When we approached Brian Rohrbough and asked him his thoughts about this latest school shooting, this essay was the result. We understood that people may disagree with what he said, and with what he believes. But censoring or attempting to re-shape his opinion would be antithetical to the very idea of free speech.

This is a nation built on dialogue and debate. And, most importantly, on freedom of speech. As George Washington once said, ?If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.?

We hope ?freeSpeech? can add more voices to the national discussion. At the very least, last night, we got people talking.

And we hope the conversation is just beginning.

Couric and Co.
Edit: fixed the quotes she gave so they were easy to see.

 

[UberNeuman]

Hmmm... I glad you're happy about death..... As for the father, I'm sorry he lost his son, and he has his right to say what he will.....

as for those you want to capitalize on that... I'll say a prayer for you...

 

[ProfJohn]

Here are some sample posts from CBS' web site.

I want to commend Brian Rohrbough for having the guts to get on national television and tell the truth. Yes, the truth hurts. Unlike most liberals, Mr. Rohrbough did not spout this stuff off the cuff but took time and methodically researched it. With the limited time he had he was not able to substantiate every claim with evidence. But I assure you he can. Mr. Rohrbough is not condemning anyone who does not believe as he does. He is simply raising serious issues in light of tragic events and showing a pattern that has led up to these events.Posted by slockridge at 09:25 PM : Oct 04, 2006

in Response to this someone wrote

You've got to be kidding. He did not "have time" to substantiate 190 WORDS? He didn't "substantiate" it because it was a load of made up nonsense. He offered not one shred of evidence that "expelling God from the school" etc was the reason for the murders. Instead he merely demonstrated the typical religious nut's ignorance about evolution. The murderer was a churchgoer who was mad at God for some imagined slight. The problem here (as usual) was too much God, not too little.
Posted by Skeptico at 09:56 PM : Oct 04, 2006

Notice how the parents of the Amish children, who I have no doubt represent some of the purest forms of sincere religion in the country, are saying to pray for the family of the murderer? Yet, all the AMEN bunch on this forum are passing blame. Typical of hypocritical religious fanatics....Live in the image of Christ. He forgave his accusers on the cross as he lay dying and yet the only thing you hear from the religious today is hate, hate, hate.
If Bush is the devil, he's in good company with the religious bible/koran thumpers
Posted by in_themiddle at 09:39 PM : Oct 04, 2006

I am so disappointed in the cbs management that they would hire such a far far far left winger as couric. I was sorely upset by her comments on Mr.Rohrbough's free speech. I feel he was pretty much right on. what has happened to this country and it moral code. To call someones thoughts or as it was said "repugnent" has shown what as many and myself now call her an idiot, which she has repectfully earned. What a dissapointment she is to have reporting the news or the news as she sees it.I hope that CBS management makes her appologize publicly to him for her insensitivity. This man has lost a son. I hope CBS has the courage to do the right thing. But of course I do not hold my breath.Posted by markb7rec at 08:55 PM : Oct 04, 2006

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Where, exactly, did Katie Couric "go crazy"? Her comments in your post seem completely neutral. Is this just your typical dissembling? In this case it borders on libelous, since it's completely false, but I doubt that will slow you down.

 

[ProfJohn]

Sorry there are so many posts to start this thread, but I wanted to break it down to make it more manageable.

Washington Post actually did a story on this whole thing.
On CBS, Columbine Dad Blames Violence on Secularism

Can someone please explain why Couric would use the word repugnant when talking about what this guy said? He did not preach hate, and yet Katie has to treat him like he is some dangerous loony saying something so wrong and evil that it is "regugnant" what a shame.

And you wonder why those of us on the right look at CBS as the worst of the big three, but at least they let him speak.

 

[Todd33]

He was a nutjob, I'm glad the feedback was negative. I'm sure he went over well with the American Talliban type, but they are not a majority yet. So WTF is this thread about? More trolling by our new right wing zealot spin artist?

 

[dahunan]

I wonder how HE feels about the death of 50,000 PLUS Iraqi Citizens ... The murder of those citizens **PRE-EMPTIVE ATTACK** is EQUALLY COMPARABLE to the Columbine shootings.. They actually far exceed the tragedy of Columbine...

The greatest (supposed) Democracy on Earth chooses weapons of murder to change peoples hearts and minds.. talk about terroristic

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Can someone please explain why Couric would use the word repugnant when talking about what this guy said? He did not preach hate, and yet Katie has to treat him like he is some dangerous loony saying something so wrong and evil that it is "regugnant" what a shame.

She didn't say his views were repugnant, she just said that some viewers would perceive them that way (as many apparently did). This is like me saying (correctly) that some people feel that the deaths of American GIs are the result of our country angering God by tolerating homosexuality. Obviously I don't agree with that view, but it does exist.

Your reading comprehension is lower than mine was when I was in 4th grade. You must be a professor at Hamburger U.

 

[miketheidiot]

last i checked school violence has been falling for years.

 

[BlancoNino]

I'm sure the same people who blamed guns for columbine are now saying this guy is being extreme.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot
last i checked school violence has been falling for years.

All forms of violent crime have been falling since 1992, but that doesn't jibe with this guy's theory, so he didn't mention it.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: DonVito
Where, exactly, did Katie Couric "go crazy"? Her comments in your post seem completely neutral. Is this just your typical dissembling? In this case it borders on libelous, since it's completely false, but I doubt that will slow you down.

Really, she said nothing at all unprofessional?? I personally am tired of her cutesie-cutesie style and was really hoping to read about some type of "meltdown".

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Can someone please explain why Couric would use the word repugnant when talking about what this guy said? He did not preach hate, and yet Katie has to treat him like he is some dangerous loony saying something so wrong and evil that it is "regugnant" what a shame.

She didn't say his views were repugnant, she just said that some viewers would perceive them that way (as many apparently did). This is like me saying (correctly) that some people feel that the deaths of American GIs are the result of our country angering God by tolerating homosexuality. Obviously I don't agree with that view, but it does exist.

Your reading comprehension is lower than mine was when I was in 4th grade. You must be a professor at Hamburger U.

Why use the word "repugnant"? Why not say some people would be upset? Why give it that negative of a connotation? Sort of like calling Foley a pedophile, it's not bad enough to say he is a pervert or someone who abuses his power, but we have to give him a false label to make him appear even worse, or to make the charges more salacious.

Katie knows that every word she uses will be examined, I am sure she knew how this comment would be viewed, maybe she was appealing to her left base by casting his comments in a negative light?

 

[dahunan]

This must be the type of stuff that republican blogs go crazy over or something?? It must be a tough life trying to think of ways to constantly change the focus away from Republican lies and misdeeds and molestations of truth

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Can someone please explain why Couric would use the word repugnant when talking about what this guy said? He did not preach hate, and yet Katie has to treat him like he is some dangerous loony saying something so wrong and evil that it is "regugnant" what a shame.

She didn't say his views were repugnant, she just said that some viewers would perceive them that way (as many apparently did). This is like me saying (correctly) that some people feel that the deaths of American GIs are the result of our country angering God by tolerating homosexuality. Obviously I don't agree with that view, but it does exist.

Your reading comprehension is lower than mine was when I was in 4th grade. You must be a professor at Hamburger U.

Why use the word "repugnant"? Why not say some people would be upset? Why give it that negative of a connotation? Sort of like calling Foley a pedophile, it's not bad enough to say he is a pervert or someone who abuses his power, but we have to give him a false label to make him appear even worse, or to make the charges more salacious.

Katie knows that every word she uses will be examined, I am sure she knew how this comment would be viewed, maybe she was appealing to her left base by casting his comments in a negative light?

Similar to Fox calling foley a Democrat three times last night?

 

[Lazy8s]

She sounded spot on to me. As for the responder that got upset about her calling the speach repugnant learn to freakin read. She said that's what LISTENERS said. Freakin bible beating morons.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Can someone please explain why Couric would use the word repugnant when talking about what this guy said? He did not preach hate, and yet Katie has to treat him like he is some dangerous loony saying something so wrong and evil that it is "regugnant" what a shame.

She didn't say his views were repugnant, she just said that some viewers would perceive them that way (as many apparently did). This is like me saying (correctly) that some people feel that the deaths of American GIs are the result of our country angering God by tolerating homosexuality. Obviously I don't agree with that view, but it does exist.

Your reading comprehension is lower than mine was when I was in 4th grade. You must be a professor at Hamburger U.

Why use the word "repugnant"? Why not say some people would be upset? Why give it that negative of a connotation? Sort of like calling Foley a pedophile, it's not bad enough to say he is a pervert or someone who abuses his power, but we have to give him a false label to make him appear even worse, or to make the charges more salacious.

Katie knows that every word she uses will be examined, I am sure she knew how this comment would be viewed, maybe she was appealing to her left base by casting his comments in a negative light?

Face it ProfJohn, the only meltdown in this thread is you.

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Why use the word "repugnant"? Why not say some people would be upset? Why give it that negative of a connotation? Sort of like calling Foley a pedophile, it's not bad enough to say he is a pervert or someone who abuses his power, but we have to give him a false label to make him appear even worse, or to make the charges more salacious.

Katie knows that every word she uses will be examined, I am sure she knew how this comment would be viewed, maybe she was appealing to her left base by casting his comments in a negative light?

I'm sure the 911 widows are still enjoying the death of their loved ones as well....

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Can someone please explain why Couric would use the word repugnant when talking about what this guy said? He did not preach hate, and yet Katie has to treat him like he is some dangerous loony saying something so wrong and evil that it is "regugnant" what a shame.

She didn't say his views were repugnant, she just said that some viewers would perceive them that way (as many apparently did). This is like me saying (correctly) that some people feel that the deaths of American GIs are the result of our country angering God by tolerating homosexuality. Obviously I don't agree with that view, but it does exist.

Your reading comprehension is lower than mine was when I was in 4th grade. You must be a professor at Hamburger U.

Why use the word "repugnant"? Why not say some people would be upset? Why give it that negative of a connotation? Sort of like calling Foley a pedophile, it's not bad enough to say he is a pervert or someone who abuses his power, but we have to give him a false label to make him appear even worse, or to make the charges more salacious.

Katie knows that every word she uses will be examined, I am sure she knew how this comment would be viewed, maybe she was appealing to her left base by casting his comments in a negative light?

It's called being articulate. It's what she's paid to do. Just because our president can only communicate in the simplest possible terms doesn't mean everyone else has that limitation.

 

[Lazy8s]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Can someone please explain why Couric would use the word repugnant when talking about what this guy said? He did not preach hate, and yet Katie has to treat him like he is some dangerous loony saying something so wrong and evil that it is "regugnant" what a shame.

She didn't say his views were repugnant, she just said that some viewers would perceive them that way (as many apparently did). This is like me saying (correctly) that some people feel that the deaths of American GIs are the result of our country angering God by tolerating homosexuality. Obviously I don't agree with that view, but it does exist.

Your reading comprehension is lower than mine was when I was in 4th grade. You must be a professor at Hamburger U.

Why use the word "repugnant"? Why not say some people would be upset? Why give it that negative of a connotation? Sort of like calling Foley a pedophile, it's not bad enough to say he is a pervert or someone who abuses his power, but we have to give him a false label to make him appear even worse, or to make the charges more salacious.

Katie knows that every word she uses will be examined, I am sure she knew how this comment would be viewed, maybe she was appealing to her left base by casting his comments in a negative light?

I'm sure she thought it would be examined too...by people that would UNDERSTAND them! GG man, she was telling us what OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT! Learn to read or do you not read at weekly revivals?

 

[Strk]

The segment is BS

 

[ProfJohn]

Rush on CBS 'freespeech'

It is time to face a hard cold fact: Militant Islam wants to kill us just because we are alive and don't believe as they do. And they have been killing us for decades. It is time to stop pretending these are mere episodic events and face the reality that our way of life is in grave danger. This threat will not just go away because we choose to ignore it.

Some say we try diplomacy. Tell me, how do we negotiate with people whose starting point is our death? Ask them to wait for 10 years, before they kill us? When Good negotiates with Evil, Evil will always wins.

And peace follows victory, not words issued by diplomats.

Unfortunately, some Americans are not interested in victory. And they want us to believe that their irresponsible behavior is Patriotic. Well, it's not.

When the critics are more interested in punishing this country over a relatively few incidents at Abu Grahib and Guantanimo than they are in defeating those who want to kill us; when they seek to destroy a foreign surveillance program which is designed to identify those who want to kill us and how they intend to do it; when they want to grant those who want to kill us U.S. constitutional rights, I don't call that patriotic.

Patriotism is rallying behind the country, regardless of party affiliation, to defeat Islamo-Fascism. Patriotism is supporting our troops on the battlefield, not undermining the mission and morale.

But let there be no doubt about this. America will prevail. We are the same America that survived a massively bloody Civil War, defeated the Nazis, and the Soviet Union. Each generation has a responsibility to the next. Our generation won't disappoint.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

For a so-called Professor, ProfJohn has got to have the worst reading comprehension skills on the planet.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
For a so-called Professor, ProfJohn has got to have the worst reading comprehension skills on the planet.

LOL, there is something repugnant in this thread, but it's not Katie Couric.