Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter, thoughts?

[gigahertz20]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

(CNN) -- A Texas father caught a man sexually assaulting his 4-year-old daughter and punched him in the head repeatedly, killing him, authorities said.
The father was casually acquainted with the alleged abuser, said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon.
Neither has been publicly identified.
The girl was left inside the family's house during the social gathering, while other members of her family were tending to horses, the sheriff said.
The alleged abuser was known for his horse-grooming abilities, Harmon said.
The father returned to the house, caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several times, Harmon said.
The man was pronounced dead on the scene, while the daughter was taken to a local hospital in Victoria, Texas, for examinations before being released.
The incident took place Saturday.
Harmon described the girl as "OK besides the obvious mental trauma."
Asked whether they would press charges against the father, the sheriff responded, "You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him."
Harmon described the dad as "very remorseful," adding that he didn't know the man was going to die.
Authorities were withholding the deceased man's name while they notified next of kin. Officials did not know immediately if he has a prior criminal history.

The thing is it will be his word only on why he killed this man, nobody else saw the sexual assault. But hopefully his 4 year old daughter is cognitive enough to explain what was happening to her when her father walked in. It's too bad the father couldn't have held back some, if I was a father I would have beat the hell out of the abuser as well but he just went to far. But I guess if you walked in on some guy sexually assaulting your daughter it would be hard to know when you had beat him enough, complete rage would just consume you.

I'm guessing there is a good chance the father will do some jail time, if he gets off without a single charge then that opens the flood gates for future cases. Just think what people could do then, if you wanted to kill somebody and get away with it and you have a young daughter/son. You could set someone up so that they would be alone in a room with your child, then you could come walking into the room and kill the person. When police show up and want to know why you killed the person, you could just say you caught them sexually assaulting your child and acted out of rage. If the child is young enough (1-2) they won't be able to explain that nothing happened to them, they are too young to give reliable testimony.

 

[sandorski]

The father probably just was in such a rage he didn't know when to stop. That said, the Courts should convict criminals, not Civilians.

 

[Dari]

ALL fathers should do this. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a part of the problems.

 

[Ns1]

your slippery slope argument is full of LOL

if I were on a jury I'd never convict.

 

[Dari]

The OP is thinking too hard about this. Contemplating too much. Not surprising considering the school he went to...

 

[Ns1]

The OP is thinking too hard about this. Contemplating too much. Not surprising considering the school he went to...

 

[halik]

shady all around - if that Zimmerman guy got charged, this guy should probably also.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

I'll gladly serve jail time to kill the scumbag who lays a finger on my daughter -

I'm surprised this is not more common. Whether catching him in the act or hearing about days, weeks, months, years later.........

robbing a child of their innocence & child-hood is the worst crime that can be committed.

 

[NeoV]

is the op trying to be funny, or make a really bad troll thread?

Op is forgetting one thing....physical evidence.

If you sexually assault a 4 year old girl - there is going to be physical evidence left behind, period.

I don't blame or find fault in the father at all - I have 4 kids, including a 4 year old boy - I'd like to think I'd do the same thing if that - god forbid - ever happened.

 

[Via]

I'd need to know exactly what the accuser was doing, not what the dad percieved he was doing.

I spent the Summer in Des Moines years ago, and I was in a grocery store with a friend. There was a very pretty girl with a perfect butt in the store as well accompanying her dad, and I admit it - while we were in the checkout line I probably stared at it a little too long (they were at least two lanes over). The dad saw me and made a fricking scene about it. He came over and growled "what are you looking at?", and for a tense 30 seconds I thought he was going to start something right there in the store.

To be clear - I was not ogling and drooling over her ass. I was looking at it in the same blank manner you'd look at a magazine cover with Jessica Biel in a bikini on it while waiting in a grocery line. I remember that clearly because I'll never forget that incident as long as I live. But if this guy was capable of walking up to and threatening two complete strangers (and my friend and I were both bigger guys and in pretty good shape at the time) what do you think he'd be capable of if he caught a guy with hand on her boob? I'm sure he'd be capable of flat-out murder.

Dads can be frighteningly obessive about their daughters.

 

[SillyOReilly]

DA should simply drop any charges.

 

[SillyOReilly]

I'd need to know exactly what the accuser was doing, not what the dad percieved he was doing.

I spent the Summer in Des Moines years ago, and I was in a grocery store with a friend. There was a very pretty girl with a perfect butt in the store as well accompanying her dad, and I admit it - while we were in the checkout line I probably stared at it a little too long (they were at least two lanes over). The dad saw me and made a fricking scene about it. He came over and growled "what are you looking at?", and for a tense 30 seconds I thought he was going to start something right there in the store.

To be clear - I was not ogling and drooling over her ass. I was looking at it in the same blank manner you'd look at a magazine cover with Jessica Biel in a bikini on it while waiting in a grocery line. I remember that clearly because I'll never forget that incident as long as I live. But if this guy was capable of walking up to and threatening two complete strangers (and my friend and I were both bigger guys and in pretty good shape at the time) what do you think he'd be capable of if he caught a guy with hand on her boob? I'm sure he'd be capable of flat-out murder.

Dads can be frighteningly obessive about their daughters.

STFU pedo.

 

[Ns1]

I'd need to know exactly what the accuser was doing, not what the dad percieved he was doing.

I spent the Summer in Des Moines years ago, and I was in a grocery store with a friend. There was a very pretty girl with a perfect butt in the store as well accompanying her dad, and I admit it - while we were in the checkout line I probably stared at it a little too long (they were at least two lanes over). The dad saw me and made a fricking scene about it. He came over and growled "what are you looking at?", and for a tense 30 seconds I thought he was going to start something right there in the store.

To be clear - I was not ogling and drooling over her ass. I was looking at it in the same blank manner you'd look at a magazine cover with Jessica Biel in a bikini on it while waiting in a grocery line. I remember that clearly because I'll never forget that incident as long as I live. But if this guy was capable of walking up to and threatening two complete strangers (and my friend and I were both bigger guys and in pretty good shape at the time) what do you think he'd be capable of if he caught a guy with hand on her boob? I'm sure he'd be capable of flat-out murder.

Dads can be frighteningly obessive about their daughters.

I think with a 4 year old daughter the line would be pretty clear.

Also regarding your story...


16+ wearing fuck-me clothes? Meh

10-14 wearing school clothes? Pedobear.

 

[gigahertz20]

ALL fathers should do this. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a part of the problems.

He just needs to prepare for jail time then....I'm curious how long he'll get.

The OP is thinking too hard about this. Contemplating too much. Not surprising considering the school he went to...

 

[NetWareHead]

It's too bad the father couldn't have held back some, if I was a father I would have beat the hell out of the abuser as well but he just went to far.

Completely disagree with you. The piece of shit deserved to die. What good reason should the father have held back for? To preserve the life of this piece of garbage? That's his daughter we are talking about. If I were on this jury I would not convict.

 

[zanejohnson]

i dont think it's physically possible for a man..who just witnessed that, to not beat the hell out of this guy... if you think you could keep your cool through that, then it is you, who has the issues.

 

[Glitchny]

Good job by the dad, I doubt he intended to kill the man, and he if the guy was molesting his daughter he did the right thing IMO.

Also this happened in Texas, 0.0% chance of him getting convicted considering he was in his own home, protecting his daughter.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

I side with the dad. One less molester on the streets.

 

[gigahertz20]

is the op trying to be funny, or make a really bad troll thread?

Op is forgetting one thing....physical evidence.

If you sexually assault a 4 year old girl - there is going to be physical evidence left behind, period.

I don't blame or find fault in the father at all - I have 4 kids, including a 4 year old boy - I'd like to think I'd do the same thing if that - god forbid - ever happened.

Depends what the sexual assault is, if it's rape then yeah that would be easy to spot on a 4 year old but I'm guessing that isn't the case here. If he was fondling her through her clothes or something similar, it would be harder to lift fingerprints or DNA from that.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Awesome, going to save us taxpayers some money for someone who would of been a repeat offender. And who knows how many other poor children he has abused. I have 2 daughters and one of them is 4. I would of killed him too. They took her to hospital immediately from what I read to check her out. Even if he just had his hand down her pants, dead.

 

[Mxylplyx]

This is a gray area that should be judged on it's individual merits. I believe I read a story a while ago where a guy was led to believe his neighbor was sexually abusing his kid. He walked next door and beat the neighbor to death. Turns out he was completely mistaken. Catching someone in the act would obviously be a bit different, but the police now have nothing to go on besides the fathers word, and his 4yr old daughters testimony, which can obviously be easily coerced into whatever it needs to be.

 

[DigDog]

thoughts: i hope they give him manslaughter with diminished responsibility; anything more would be unacceptable from an ethical standpoint.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

All we have is someone who clearly committed second degree murder and his word that the victim was doing something wrong.

 

[rpanic]

The dad did the right thing; I think I would black out in rage in the same situation.

 

[Via]

STFU pedo.

I'm just trying to be rational here. It's easy to say "I'd kill anyone that touched my daughter". Was he roughhousing and tickling her, or was her underwear around her ankles?

And - the girl's ass in Des Moines was a woman's ass. If you think a prepubescent girl's ass might be something even remotely worth staring at the problem lies with you, not me.