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Father Kills Daughter; Doubted Virginity

Father Kills Daughter; Doubted Virginity
By SHAFIKA MATTAR, Associated Press Writer
5 hours ago

AMMAN, Jordan - A Jordanian man fatally shot his 17-year-old daughter whom he suspected of having sex despite a medical exam that proved her chastity, an official said Thursday. The man surrendered to police hours after the killing, saying he had done it for family honor.

A state forensic pathologist, who works at the National Institute of Forensic Medicine in Amman where an autopsy was performed, said in a phone interview that the girl had run away from home several times for unknown reasons.

Weeks ago, the girl had returned home from a family protection clinic after doctors had vouched for her virginity and the father had signed a pledge not to harm her, the pathologist said on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the case.

"The tests proved that she was a virgin," the pathologist said. The girl returned home only after her father signed a statement promising not to harm her, he added.

The father shot the girl four times in the head on Tuesday. On Wednesday, an autopsy was performed that again showed "she was still a virgin," the pathologist said.

Authorities have not disclosed the names of the father or the daughter or even their hometown, saying only that they lived in a southern province.

The crime is the first "honor killing" this year in Jordan, where many men consider sex out of wedlock to be an almost indelible stain on a family's reputation. On average, about 20 women in the country are killed by their relatives in such cases each year. Women have been killed for simply dating.

Global human rights organizations have condemned such killings and appealed to King Abdullah II to put an end to them.

In response, the government has abolished a section in the penal code that allowed for "honor" killers to get sentences as lenient as six months in prison. Instead, the government has told judges to consider honor killings on a par with other homicides, which in Jordan are punishable by up to 15 years in jail.

But attempts to introduce harsher sentences have been blocked by conservative lawmakers who argue that tougher penalties would lead to promiscuity.

Queen Rania also has called for harsher punishment for such killers.

 
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
But attempts to introduce harsher sentences have been blocked by conservative lawmakers who argue that tougher penalties would lead to promiscuity.

Haha. Are they afraid the X number of virgins someone might get if they die in the name of jihad! would be lowered?

 
"harsher sentences have been blocked by conservative lawmakers who argue that tougher penalties would lead to promiscuity."

Don't worry about the murder rate, we can't have any promiscuity!
 
Just proves that the US has freedoms that every citizen should be thankful for, the sh!t some of them pull here can be ignored, but if they were over there, they'd have been murdered by now.
 
Originally posted by: chrisms
"harsher sentences have been blocked by conservative lawmakers who argue that tougher penalties would lead to promiscuity."

Don't worry about the murder rate, we can't have any promiscuity!

and that is exactly the mentally over there. having a deflowerd daughter is more dishonorable than killing her. :roll:
 
but but but it's their culture, we have to be understanding. we have to respect their culture! it's all relative! their culture of violence will never affect us directly.
 
The father shot the girl four times in the head on Tuesday. On Wednesday, an autopsy was performed that again showed "she was still a virgin," the pathologist said.

Four times? I'd say he was a little pissed off.

Uh, why the the need for the autopsy and the virginity check? I think at this point it doesn't matter if the girl was a virgin or not.
 
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
The father shot the girl four times in the head on Tuesday. On Wednesday, an autopsy was performed that again showed "she was still a virgin," the pathologist said.

Four times? I'd say he was a little pissed off.

Uh, why the the need for the autopsy and the virginity check? I think at this point it doesn't matter if the girl was a virgin or not.

I think that the locals would have felt he justified if she had been shown not to be a virgin.
 
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Just proves that the US has freedoms that every citizen should be thankful for, the sh!t some of them pull here can be ignored, but if they were over there, they'd have been murdered by now.

We didn't always have those freedoms. We fought back.
Time for people to fight back.
 
that is horrible.

i actually saw some case just like this on Forensic Files about a week ago. the middle eastern chick was dating some black guy and the father thought she was having sex too because she was partying with this guy and always hanging with him.

so the story was that she came home and she had asked her parents to borrow $5K and the parents said no, and some struggle happened and the girl ended up being stabbed in self defense of the parents.

but the FBI had taps in the house because they suspected terrorist activity on the guy, and they had the whole conversation on tape, as well as the killing 🙁 it was clearly as murder because the family felt disgraced by their daughter. the mother actually was holding her down while the father stabbed her in the chest 🙁

the detectives said that the tape was the worst thing they had ever heard and to this day it still bothers them and replays in their heads.

EDIT: and this was a story about people living in the US.
 
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
Just proves that the US has freedoms that every citizen should be thankful for, the sh!t some of them pull here can be ignored, but if they were over there, they'd have been murdered by now.

We didn't always have those freedoms. We fought back.
Time for people to fight back.

Eh... THOSE are the people over there. It's the collective mentality. "Don't be a patronizing crusader, respect their culture" LOL.




 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

You can take the monkey out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the monkey.

- M4H

Why do you insist on using racial slurs directed towards black people?

 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
that is horrible.

i actually saw some case just like this on Forensic Files about a week ago. the middle eastern chick was dating some black guy and the father thought she was having sex too because she was partying with this guy and always hanging with him.

so the story was that she came home and she had asked her parents to borrow $5K and the parents said no, and some struggle happened and the girl ended up being stabbed in self defense of the parents.

but the FBI had taps in the house because they suspected terrorist activity on the guy, and they had the whole conversation on tape, as well as the killing 🙁 it was clearly as murder because the family felt disgraced by their daughter. the mother actually was holding her down while the father stabbed her in the chest 🙁

the detectives said that the tape was the worst thing they had ever heard and to this day it still bothers them and replays in their heads.

EDIT: and this was a story about people living in the US.

ROP my ass.
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
The father shot the girl four times in the head on Tuesday. On Wednesday, an autopsy was performed that again showed "she was still a virgin," the pathologist said.

Four times? I'd say he was a little pissed off.

Uh, why the the need for the autopsy and the virginity check? I think at this point it doesn't matter if the girl was a virgin or not.

I think that the locals would have felt he justified if she had been shown not to be a virgin.

Ahhh, good point. Guess I was looking at it from the rational thinking American point of view. :Q
 
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