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Lifer
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Father had to go to emergency room

He's had several near fainting spells.

Had several of these before on a trip back from Spain. They caught it in the hospital and recorded a 7 second flatline! He had a pacemaker installed after that. Has had a few of these since though. 2 of them today. He thinks they are seizures, thinks he has some form of epilepsy and that the seizures are what caused his heart to stop before. He get's very pleasant aura like feelings when they happen and becomes very weak. The pace maker should keep his heart going but we have no idea what these seizures are. Scary :( I'm staying at home for now, nothing I can do at the hospital.
 
Kaervak

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Not seizures. They're not the least bit pleasant, quite uncomfortable to say the least. Sounds more like a circulatory issue more than anything.
 
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Lifer
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bwoody2016 said:
Heart failure sounds more like it.
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I hope not :( He's had regular checks of his pace maker though and the readouts have shown that it kicks in as needed but I would think it would show up on their readouts if there was some form of true failure at work. Also the pacemaker completely replaces the need for the heart to maintain it's own rhythm so failure in this case is more like a heart attack which this isn't.

Anyway :(
 
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Cardiac arrest from seizures isn't uncommon. Had a HS classmate die from it. Many people die from epilepsi each year and it is usually due to arrythmia from the seizure.
 
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Lifer
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Kaervak said:
Not seizures. They're not the least bit pleasant, quite uncomfortable to say the least. Sounds more like a circulatory issue more than anything.
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No seizures can have "auras" that are very pleasant. Depending on where they are localized in the brain. And some people only have these auras.

Not defending his self diagnosis, I have no idea. But I know he has done some research and I've looked into some of it too. Seizures can cause the type of electrical heart failure he's seen too.
 
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Lifer
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Well he's JUST been seen and they are going to do blood workup on him and put him on an ECG to see what's going on there. Problem with this kind of transient thing is, if there's nothing to catch they could just send him home.
 
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Kaervak said:
Not seizures. They're not the least bit pleasant, quite uncomfortable to say the least. Sounds more like a circulatory issue more than anything.
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Could be circulatory. He's pale as a sheet when these happen.
 
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Locut0s said:
No seizures can have "auras" that are very pleasant. Depending on where they are localized in the brain. And some people only have these auras.

Not defending his self diagnosis, I have no idea. But I know he has done some research and I've looked into some of it too. Seizures can cause the type of electrical heart failure he's seen too.
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Entirely possible I suppose. Just basing my guess off what I've seen in the field and I've never come across a patient that's had a pleasant seizure. Anyway, let us know what they find. I'm curious to what it is and if it's a circulatory issue or not.
 
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Kaervak said:
Entirely possible I suppose. Just basing my guess off what I've seen in the field and I've never come across a patient that's had a pleasant seizure. Anyway, let us know what they find. I'm curious to what it is and if it's a circulatory issue or not.
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You would probably have seen more grand mal seizure's also known as a tonic-clonic seizures where people either collapse or convulse. Focal seizures and other types can take on all types of other presentations, people can be fully awake and alert but experiencing very strange feelings in their head.

Will let you know. But like I was saying unfortunately because of the triage nature of medicine and the transient nature of this it's likely they will just send him home if he doesn't have another and his readings are OK. I'd feel much better if they could nail it down. But they don't do that kind of work in the ER really. That's left to longer term diagnosis and tests.

Feel a bit better that he has the pacemaker though, provides a safety net that may indeed be saving him.
 
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My best to you and the family - with him being only 64.... Man, he's going to come fine.

\again, my best to you.
 
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I hope it all works out for you. He is fairly young so im sure he will be ok.
 
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Locut0s said:
Thanks. Only nails home how much more I need to move out and get my one life though. As awful as that might sound here.
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You have literally been saying this for years, and if you haven't found a reason to get your ass moving in the last 10 years, I doubt this will suddenly motivate you.
 
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Unlikely for him to develop a seizure disorder now unless he's had prior strokes/focal injuries to his brain. And seizures themselves rarely cause cardiac arrhythmia. This sound like just his heart issue with pauses causing global hypoperfusion causing him to have vague sensations followed by weakness.
 
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Kaervak said:
Entirely possible I suppose. Just basing my guess off what I've seen in the field and I've never come across a patient that's had a pleasant seizure. Anyway, let us know what they find. I'm curious to what it is and if it's a circulatory issue or not.
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I had petite-mal seizures as a kid and often I would basically space-out. Teachers thought I was daydreaming until they tapped me on the shoulder and I didn't respond. I wouldn't call it pleasant, but it wasn't "painful", everything just got really muddy and I couldn't/didn't respond. Was arguably peaceful. My heart never stopped though TMK. Could be a more severe form I suppose.

The heart issue sounds like something my sister had as a kid, she had an arrhythmia that would make her feel faint and under-perform in gym, turns out it was the nerve that regulated her heart beat rather than a problem with the heart itself. They had to do some laser surgery to fix it, but she's been fine ever since. Her heart never stopped either, could also be a more severe form of that.

But I'm no doctor. I can say use this as further motivation to work out more/eat better/improve your health so in case you're stuck with the same genes you lessen your odds of them being activated.

Hope he pulls through.
 
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My dad started having those same symptoms early this year, he was 63.

Just have him checked out as much as possible, this can escalate quickly!
 
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