Fatal Car Crash Linked to Video Games ...

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Fatal crash linked to videogame - Two 18-year-olds arrested and charged, copy of Need for Speed found in one suspect's car

The fantasy world of videogame street racing may have influenced two teenage boys accused of piloting real-life luxury cars in a high-speed contest that killed a taxi driver, police said Wednesday.
A copy of Need for Speed, a game that allows players to select custom cars and race them through crowded urban areas, was found on the front seat of one of the suspect?s cars following the late-night crash.

?Here we have, in real life, two guys driving high-end cars at a high rate of speed in an urban area,? said Toronto police Det. Paul Lobsinger.

?I don?t think it?s a giant leap for people to say, `Wow, how does this go together???

The 18-year-old friends were racing a pair of Mercedes Benzes through one of the city?s wealthiest neighbourhoods on Tuesday night, reaching speeds of 140 kilometres an hour in a 50-kilometre zone, police allege.

The taxi was struck while making a left turn, killing 46-year-old driver Tahir Khan.

The married father of two young children immigrated to Canada six years ago from Pakistan, said Jim Bell, general manager of Diamond Taxicab Association.

?He was working to . . . reunite his family in Canada, and lived the Canadian dream,? said Bell.

?Tahir?s dream for him and his family has been ended.?

The blunt force of the crash left the taxi wrapped around a utility pole, plumes of steam still rolling off the wreckage as investigators sifted through the twisted metal.

Despite finding an auto-racing game at the scene of the crime, Lobsinger stressed the game wasn?t solely to blame.

?Look, in the proper perspective . . . if everyone imitated a videogame such as that, we?d have to ban cars,? he said.

The driver of the Mercedes involved in the crash suffered only a few scratches. The other driver fled the scene, police said.

Alexander Ryazanov and Wang-Piao Ross are charged with criminal negligence causing death. Ross also faces a charge of failing to stop after an accident causing death.

Both Ross and Ryazanov appeared in court Wednesday, with their bail hearings rescheduled to Friday and next Monday, respectively.

In the prisoner?s docket, Ross, dressed in a white and beige hooded sweatshirt, whispered to Ryazanov, in a grey ribbed sweater.

Ross?s mother left the courtroom without offering comment.

The incident is the latest in what some say is a growing plague of street racing nationwide.

Last year, a pedestrian in Edmonton was killed when one of two racing Corvettes spun out of control and hit the woman from behind. The incident prompted provincial politicians to pass legislation allowing police to seize vehicles for 24 hours in cases involving street racing.

Just days before the law came into effect, two men died when their vehicles collided in Calgary in an apparent street race.

In B.C., two men charged with killing an elderly woman during a race were committed to trial earlier this month.

The increase in street racing incidents across Canada prompted the former Liberal government to introduce legislation requiring judges to revoke the driver?s licence of anyone convicted of street racing.

The bill failed to pass into law before the government fell last November.

HHHHEEERRRREEEE comes Jack Thompson!

Seriously though, I feel very bad for the victims family :(.
 

acemcmac

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Live the canadian dream? :confused:

what's that? to have babies with your sister? :laugh::wink;

I kid, I kid.
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Life will be better when video games are illegal, and you have to be a shady underground type person and own illegal gaming hardware to pay black market games.

 

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Nobody would have thought to "race" fast expensive cars if it wern't for NFS. :confused:
 

MikeMike

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"A game is a game," Toronto Police's Det. Paul Lobsinger told CTV Toronto. "And when you get behind the wheel of a car it's not a game anymore. And when something tragic happens in a huge crash with a lot of smoke, there is no reset button. You can't start over with a new car and a new life."

i know that is a quote, not sure if its from that article or not, but that is specifically about that accident
 

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
"A game is a game," Toronto Police's Det. Paul Lobsinger told CTV Toronto. "And when you get behind the wheel of a car it's not a game anymore. And when something tragic happens in a huge crash with a lot of smoke, there is no reset button. You can't start over with a new car and a new life."

i know that is a quote, not sure if its from that article or not, but that is specifically about that accident

and that is fvcking sad if they really think the game is the reason that people street raced fast cars ...
 

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
"A game is a game," Toronto Police's Det. Paul Lobsinger told CTV Toronto. "And when you get behind the wheel of a car it's not a game anymore. And when something tragic happens in a huge crash with a lot of smoke, there is no reset button. You can't start over with a new car and a new life."

i know that is a quote, not sure if its from that article or not, but that is specifically about that accident

And if you're 18, and too dumb to know that, then Darwin is in fact working.

I feel bad for the families, but media shouldn't sensationalize stupidity.
 

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Shens. If NFS was on the frontseat during the crash it would have ended up outside the car, on the floor, etc, unless it was buckled in?

/I kid, i suppose it's possible it bounced off dash back onto seat, or the airbag saved it, or they were just making up the front seat part because it really doesn't matter where it was found in the car, it makes for news.

//What if they had found Carmageddon... after playing that game for hours on end, and then getting in my car, well, lets just say it was strange.

///Didn't run anyone over, ever, that I can remember. :p
 

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I guess that's why I've had countless wrecks from playing Stunts, Need for Speed (the original), Driver, Vanishing Point, Midtown Madness, and so on...
Oh, wait, no I haven't.
 

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
"A game is a game," Toronto Police's Det. Paul Lobsinger told CTV Toronto. "And when you get behind the wheel of a car it's not a game anymore. And when something tragic happens in a huge crash with a lot of smoke, there is no reset button. You can't start over with a new car and a new life."

i know that is a quote, not sure if its from that article or not, but that is specifically about that accident

and that is fvcking sad if they really think the game is the reason that people street raced fast cars ...

It's also sad when people try to say these games/movies/music have no impact on people at all, when studies have always shown that they do influence people.

No the game didn't cause someone to drive fast, or go on a shooting spree, but that doesn't change the fact that some people do become heavily influenced, or desensitized to certain things because of games like NFS, FPS style games and violent movies.
 

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Originally posted by: BigToque
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
"A game is a game," Toronto Police's Det. Paul Lobsinger told CTV Toronto. "And when you get behind the wheel of a car it's not a game anymore. And when something tragic happens in a huge crash with a lot of smoke, there is no reset button. You can't start over with a new car and a new life."

i know that is a quote, not sure if its from that article or not, but that is specifically about that accident

and that is fvcking sad if they really think the game is the reason that people street raced fast cars ...

It's also sad when people try to say these games/movies/music have no impact on people at all, when studies have always shown that they do influence people.

No the game didn't cause someone to drive fast, or go on a shooting spree, but that doesn't change the fact that some people do become heavily influenced, or desensitized to certain things because of games like NFS, FPS style games and violent movies.

See I disagree to a certain extent. if one can't realize the difference between a game and real life, they need some serious help.

okay so playing NFS:MW may make you want to get a Porsche or a Lamborgini, or a game like Tiger Woods golf may make you want to go out and play real golf ... but those are all positive things.

there is a huge difference between people going out and learning to play golf because of Tiger Woods 2006, then someone going out and car jacking someone because of Grand Theft Auto. If you can't see that, then you too need some help.

people saying games influence people to do things considered "wrong" or "bad" because they can do it in a game and get away with it are just as dumb as the kids who were involved in this accident.
 

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Tiger Woods golf may make you want to go out and play real golf

Similarily, NFS may make you want to go out and drive fast.



Now then, if they weren't idiots they would realize that this is bad and they shouldn't go do it.
 
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Sad that the innocent taxi driver and not the two idiots died. :(

They'll make someone a nice piece of meat in the joint though.

- M4H
 

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people street raced long before video games were ever thought of.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: speg
Tiger Woods golf may make you want to go out and play real golf

Similarily, NFS may make you want to go out and drive fast.



Now then, if they weren't idiots they would realize that this is bad and they shouldn't go do it.

my point exactly. there is a difference between going out and playing golf, and going out and street racing. one is safe and one is dangerous.

so as yo usaid, they were idiots.
 

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Yeah kids these days are getting worse. I went to court the other day (got stopped by a cop, and lucky me I didn't put my new insurance card in the car and the card in the car said it expired two weeks before) and this kid was talking about his 2000 Impreza 2.5RS and how it makes 230hp..he's going to turbo it soon so god knows what type of power he'll be making.

Oh, he was 17.

*edit* oh, he was in court because he was streetracing.
 

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Why...the...FREAKING...HELL would they have a copy of the game....IN THE FVCKING CAR?!?!?!?
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Horus
Why...the...FREAKING...HELL would they have a copy of the game....IN THE FVCKING CAR?!?!?!?


Use your brain bro. Think.... How do games get from the store to your house?.... Think real hard.... :roll:
 

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Why is this news? I thought all evil was linked to video games....I'll go play WOW now
 

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Originally posted by: Rudee
Originally posted by: Horus
Why...the...FREAKING...HELL would they have a copy of the game....IN THE FVCKING CAR?!?!?!?


Use your brain bro. Think.... How do games get from the store to your house?.... Think real hard.... :roll:


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