'Fatah has never recognized Israel and will never do so'

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The Green Bean

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So you feel the same way about Israel as India feels about Pakistan?

That is the dumbest thing posted in this thread. India recognizes Pakistan's right to exist. On the other Pakistan, just like Fatah and Hamas, refuses to recognize Israel and rightly so. A Jewish state in the middle of one of the holiest places of Islam is unnatural. It's based on the hollow claim that somehow, because they are Jewish, the Jews are natural heirs of Abraham. Yet, the Muslims can claim the same because they believe in a lineage of Prophets. Religion apart, the state existing their should exist based on ethnicity, not religion.

Has anyone read the book Jerusalem: The Biography?
 

dali71

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That is the dumbest thing posted in this thread. India recognizes Pakistan's right to exist. On the other Pakistan, just like Fatah and Hamas, refuses to recognize Israel and rightly so. A Jewish state in the middle of one of the holiest places of Islam is unnatural. It's based on the hollow claim that somehow, because they are Jewish, the Jews are natural heirs of Abraham. Yet, the Muslims can claim the same because they believe in a lineage of Prophets. Religion apart, the state existing their should exist based on ethnicity, not religion.

Has anyone read the book Jerusalem: The Biography?

Temple Mount: holiest place in Judaism, 3rd holiest place in Islam.
 

Freshgeardude

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http://www.debka.com/article/20988/


Cairo shuts Gaza's Rafah crossing to free passage at US insistence

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report June 2, 2011, 8:52 AM (GMT+02:00)
At the Rafah crossing

Just four days after the much-heralded opening of the Rafah crossing between the Gaza Strip and Sinai to free passage, Cairo virtually shut it down Tuesday, May 31, by a series of tight bureaucratic restrictions on Palestinian exit and entry.
debkafile's military and Washington sources disclose that Military Council Chairman Field Marshal Mohammed Tantawi personally signed the new orders in response to an insistent US demand based on the information that since the Rafah crossing opened to free passage Saturday, May 28, Palestinian and al Qaeda terrorists had swarmed through and were roaming at large across Sinai and laying the Suez Canal and its coastal cities open to attack. Washington warned him that terrorists still unlisted by Western or Egyptian counter-terror agencies would be free to reach Egypt, carry out attacks and return to the Gaza Strip unhindered unless careful restrictions were imposed to weed them out.
Tuesday, May 31, Tantawi informed Washington that new restrictions virtually shutting down the Rafah crossing were in place. Egypt then acceded to a US request to receive an Israeli defense official and discuss security coordination between Cairo and Jerusalem around their borders.
Amos Gilad, political adviser at the Israeli Defense Ministry, arrived in Cairo Wednesday and held talks with Egyptian officials, including intelligence minister Murad Muwafi, who briefed him on the new security measures at the Rafah border crossing, as first revealed here by debkafile's military sources:
1. Egypt has handed the Hamas government a blacklist of 5,000 Palestinians barred from access to the Rafah border post and entry to Egypt. It covers the entire operations levels of the military arms of Hamas, Jihad Islami, the Palestinian "Fronts" and other extremist organizations based in the Gaza Strip.
2. Daily passage is limited to a quota of 400 – compared with 1,000-2,000 Palestinians who accessed the crossing in its first three days.
3. Palestinians seeking to travel for medical treatment will first be examined by an Egyptian medical panel which must approve their applications.
4. Cairo wants the list of 400 candidates for passage submitted in advance and does not promise permits for them all.
When informed of the new restrictions, Hamas leaders hit the ceiling and threatened Egypt's military rulers with painful payback. Mahmoud a-Zahar, a top Hamas official in Gaza, was especially aggrieved. The news reached him in Damascus where he had boasted of Hamas-Gaza's success in achieving free passage between the Palestinian enclave and Egypt. Its leaders are now threatening, among other punitive measures, to have its troops shut down the Rafah crossing hermetically and show the world "the real face" of the military rulers of Egypt towards the Palestinians.

Looks like LL's jizz fest is over.


not surprised at all he didnt mention it LMFAO
 

zsdersw

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The irony of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is how similar they both are. Palestinians are the Israelis of the Muslim world. You'd think two groups of people who've both been so unwanted by their respective peers would be able to find common ground, but alas... they're too locked in defense/survival mode to figure anything out.
 

Jhhnn

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Like I've said 100x the is no difference between Hamas and Fatah other than slow jihad vs fast jihad. They both want Israel and Jews wiped off the map, one is just smart enough to use relative non violence and claim desperation for Western consumption and sympathy so the world sleepwalks in its mass delusion and a cuddly “peace process” for these barbarians who just as soon slit their throats after they are done with Jews. "After Saturday comes Sunday" - well known saying in Muslim world

In their own words:
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=223181

Nice edit of what was said in your title, Zebo- kinda like Breitbart's edit of Shirley Sherrod. Even the JP rag had the decency to maintain context, which you've artfully avoided. Half the boneheads contributing to this thread won't read more than that, and you know it- they automatically bandwagon for Israel, regardless.

The guy's right, of course. Formal recognition of governments is mutual between sovereign states, and the Pals have no state. Fatah lacks the authority to recognize Israel, and saying that they do merely weakens their efforts to achieve statehood.