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Panakk

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Have you guys used any of the fat burner products like Ripped Fuel or Hydroxycut? What do you think of them?

Don't get me wrong, i'm not lazy, i work out 6 times a week and i'm not overweight. I just don't have defined Abs.. I drink light beer and i watch my calorie and fat intake.

Was thinking of trying it out. Any suggestions?
 
While it was just banned, ephedra is really the only proven matabolism-upper out there. Hydroxycut and Ripped and all the others used to work... when they were made with ephedra. Now they just suck, from what I've read, other than perhaps giving you some sort of mental edge.

Go ephedra or just clean up your diet more. Egg whites and water go a long way! 😀
 
bump for some more opinions.

i'm 5'9" about 160lbs. i ballooned to almost 180lbs a while back and lost it the good old fashion way, by doing cardio and eating healthier. however, i've got a little more fat around my tummy that i'd like to burn off. i still do cardio, but that last few pounds to get rid of the love handles and gut are difficult.

is ephedra really the only effective stuff?
 
Look into Green Tea Extract.

I used the Twinlabs Metabolift to lose 86 lbs in 3 months once. No it was not a healthy loss, but I wanted the weight off. Losing weight that quickly had me also losing about 25 lbs in muscle which I have yet to gain back (I hover around 175 at a normal bodyfat, when I used to be about 190 with a low low bodyfat).

the site www.drumlib.com is a good one to start with.
 
They do offer Green Tea and Caffeine, but it doesn't do much. The placebo effect is great though. Taking the pills can keep you on track. Try it out.
 
Originally posted by: raptor13
While it was just banned, ephedra is really the only proven matabolism-upper out there. Hydroxycut and Ripped and all the others used to work... when they were made with ephedra. Now they just suck, from what I've read, other than perhaps giving you some sort of mental edge.

Go ephedra or just clean up your diet more. Egg whites and water go a long way! 😀
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Calcium and caffeine work to boost metabolism.
Nothing works like ephedra, though.
Do a google, you can still find the stuff.
 
Originally posted by: raptor13
While it was just banned, ephedra is really the only proven matabolism-upper out there. Hydroxycut and Ripped and all the others used to work... when they were made with ephedra. Now they just suck, from what I've read, other than perhaps giving you some sort of mental edge.

Go ephedra or just clean up your diet more. Egg whites and water go a long way! 😀
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Yep. While banned, it is still available if you know where to look. It's in certain over the counter stuff, and also available legally in a slightly different chemical composition, though who knows for how long...
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: raptor13
While it was just banned, ephedra is really the only proven matabolism-upper out there. Hydroxycut and Ripped and all the others used to work... when they were made with ephedra. Now they just suck, from what I've read, other than perhaps giving you some sort of mental edge.

Go ephedra or just clean up your diet more. Egg whites and water go a long way! 😀
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Yep. While banned, it is still available if you know where to look. It's in certain over the counter stuff, and also available legally in a slightly different chemical composition, though who knows for how long...
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probably a loaded question, but is this stuff as dangerous as the FDA makes it out to be?
 
I drink light beer and i watch my calorie and fat intake.
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rofl. Drink light beer. It must be genes eh? 🙂

Forget these things. Any fat you lose because of them will be fat you keep off only by taking them long-term. Not healthy.

Increase your cardio and if you're already doing a lot _EAT LESS_.
i'm 5'9" about 160lbs. i ballooned to almost 180lbs a while back and lost it the good old fashion way, by doing cardio and eating healthier. however, i've got a little more fat around my tummy that i'd like to burn off. i still do cardio, but that last few pounds to get rid of the love handles and gut are difficult.
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You = need to lose more overall bodyfat. Again, more cardio, less food. No need for stimulants.
 
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: raptor13
While it was just banned, ephedra is really the only proven matabolism-upper out there. Hydroxycut and Ripped and all the others used to work... when they were made with ephedra. Now they just suck, from what I've read, other than perhaps giving you some sort of mental edge.

Go ephedra or just clean up your diet more. Egg whites and water go a long way! 😀
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Yep. While banned, it is still available if you know where to look. It's in certain over the counter stuff, and also available legally in a slightly different chemical composition, though who knows for how long...
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probably a loaded question, but is this stuff as dangerous as the FDA makes it out to be?
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Yes. But, a car is dangerous as well. Ephedra isn't all that bad if you know what you're doing. The problem is that most people had no idea wtf they were doing when taking it.
 
Originally posted by: iamme
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: raptor13
While it was just banned, ephedra is really the only proven matabolism-upper out there. Hydroxycut and Ripped and all the others used to work... when they were made with ephedra. Now they just suck, from what I've read, other than perhaps giving you some sort of mental edge.

Go ephedra or just clean up your diet more. Egg whites and water go a long way! 😀
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Yep. While banned, it is still available if you know where to look. It's in certain over the counter stuff, and also available legally in a slightly different chemical composition, though who knows for how long...
Click to expand...

probably a loaded question, but is this stuff as dangerous as the FDA makes it out to be?
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Ya- if you take too much of it at once and work out really hard.
Taking the recomended does is fine- might cause jitters and stuff like that, but nothing too bad.
 
In combination with stupidity it has killed about 150 people over the course of a decade. Tobacco & alcohol kill that many in minutes, if not seconds. It is a potent stimulant, and as such you need to own a working brain if you're going to take it. 400-lb smokers who haven't done cardio in years should not take it. If it says take one, taking 20 does not work 20 times as good. If you have cardiovascular problems such as heart disease, hypertension, arrythmia, etc you should not take it.
 
Originally posted by: raptor13
While it was just banned, ephedra is really the only proven matabolism-upper out there. Hydroxycut and Ripped and all the others used to work... when they were made with ephedra. Now they just suck, from what I've read, other than perhaps giving you some sort of mental edge.

Go ephedra or just clean up your diet more. Egg whites and water go a long way! 😀
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First, ephedra is not the only 'proven metabolism-upper out there'. Others increase your metabolism too, including caffeine and nicotine (and more dangerous products such as clenbuturol and DNP). And second, there's been a lot of research on ephedra for weight loss, and very few of them actually show ephedra as an effective metabolism increaser for weight loss. It's estimate that an ECA stack will increase your metabolism by a mere 3%. The weight loss comes from it's other effects, which are it's hunger reduction, and the fact that people on an ECA stack might do their fitness exercises longer than usual (or other forms of activities, such as staying in their garden longer).

As for availability, it is still available, it's just marketted in the form of Ephedra HCL now... and cannot be labelled as a weight loss supplement.
 
Originally posted by: Hardcore

And second, there's been a lot of research on ephedra for weight loss, and very few of them actually show ephedra as an effective metabolism increaser for weight loss. It's estimate that an ECA stack will increase your metabolism by a mere 3%. The weight loss comes from it's other effects, which are it's hunger reduction, and the fact that people on an ECA stack might do their fitness exercises longer than usual (or other forms of activities, such as staying in their garden longer).
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YMMV as with anything, but I can do the same workouts and eat the same foods and on EC my weight strips down fairly quickly...I do know most research historically has shown ECA as extremely effective and only recently has counter research came into play, usually by those that sell other supplements.

As far as over-the-counter products go it's hard to beat when taken properly.

The reason the government is stepping in, much like everything else in the USA, is to protect the stupid. Only recently compared to other nations have we gotten automatic up window as the worry was someone would lop their fingers or head off. Now with computer control and current sensing devices they are deemed safe for the public.

My usual recommendation to those trying to duplicate my results was to start with a baseline bloodpressure and pulse and then take 1 capsule and check it again in 30minutes to an hour and see...then if all is well take another 1 in about 4 hours and try to check again, and then the final dose in 4 hours....I try to keep 5 hours between doses and none after 5pm.

Once they know they can tolerate it then do the 2 capsules 3x a day....some say 2x a day is just as effective, but none will say more than about 60mg/600mg total in 24 hours is going to give any greater advantage.
 
Clenbuterol not FDA approved in the US of A. It is available in the Bahamas or Canada do a few of these and a few ephedrine tabs you'll be a little on the "tweaked? side for a few hours!!!I
t does work?you'll be a fat burning machine
HogLeg 😉
 
look your diet over,try adding non-fat yogurt and cottage cheese to it,also good are peanuts,almonds and avocado(watch portion sizes on the nuts) these foods contain good fats that help the body combat fat retention due to the stress hormone cortisol.
 
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