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maximus maximus

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This is my situation... I need to lose 30 pounds in 3 months.
My past experience attempts has been that my weight is pretty stubborn. I lose 4-5 pounds as soon as I start excercising, dieting. But then, no matter how hard I try, my weight kinda remains constant.

I am thinking of trying out a few weight loss pills. Just a thought.

Anyone have any experience with any? I do not wish to gain back my weight if I stop taking the pills.

If you know any site which has good first hand reviews of weight loss pills, please point me to it.

Ohh and by the way, I am 5'10", 210 pounds.

Thanks,
Max.
 
Most of them are caffeine pills, which will decrease your urge to eat... basically they help you starve yourself, which is not a good way to lose weight. Your body will lower its metabolism and as soon as you stop taking the pills and start eating properly you will gain all the weight back.
 
I'm the same way. Every time I start to exercise (bike, run, swim, whatever) I will lose maybe 5 lbs but then nothing after that. I'm the same height/weight as you too and have been thinking of doing the diet pills thing as well.

EDIT: This is all while eating healthy too.
 
Well, at 5'10" and 210, it's not like you're morbidly obese. You're not very far off from your ideal weight range actually so I wouldn't attempty anything too extreme as far as weight loss goes. You could probably lose a good bit in 3 months just by changing your diet and exercising.

You can also try Hydroxy Cut. I know several gym rats who love it and get great results. Just be safe with whatever you try. 30 pounds/90 days is pretty doable but be don't abuse your body in trying to get there.
 
The initial five pounds you guys are losing is water, not fat, and it is lost and gained very easily. As is said over and over by anybody credible (not trying to sell anything, basically), fat loss takes lifestyle change. End of story.
 
Diet is key my friend. You may lose a few extra with the pills but if you cant make modifications to your diet the weight will come back.

Anyway the majority of the pills now are mostly gimmicks. The ECA stack (Ephedra, Caffeine, Aspirin/Yohimbe) is very effective but the media has scared many away from ephedra much like everything else.

Stick to a clean diet, calculate your BMR (Google), stay under your maintanence calories and make sure you incorporate resistance training into your routine.
 
See... the problem with dieting is that ultimately your urge gives way. You can diet for 10 days, 20 days, 6 months... but then what?

You cannot diet forever.
 
Originally posted by: NatePo717
I'm the same way. Every time I start to exercise (bike, run, swim, whatever) I will lose maybe 5 lbs but then nothing after that. I'm the same height/weight as you too and have been thinking of doing the diet pills thing as well.

EDIT: This is all while eating healthy too.
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You seem to have the same problem.
 
Originally posted by: maximus maximus
See... the problem with dieting is that ultimately your urge gives away. You can diet for 10 days, 20 days, 6 months... but then what?

You cannot diet forever.
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So you need to always exercise, and lift weights to increase your metabolism. Don't drink soda, or eat candy, and limit fast food. All fad diets are destined to fail, as you just pointed out. Lifestyle change is the key, not dieting. The only dieting you should do is if you are trying to lose weight quickly, in which case you should simply lower the amount of calories you take in. You can still remain sated throughout the day if you eat good food. Check out the Glycemic Index, eat food that has a low GI number, make sure to eat plenty of fiber, protein, and good fats (olive oil, peanuts, fish) at meals. If you need to snack do it on vegetables or fruit.
 
Originally posted by: kogase
The initial five pounds you guys are losing is water, not fat, and it is lost and gained very easily. As is said over and over by anybody credible (not trying to sell anything, basically), fat loss takes lifestyle change. End of story.
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Exactly. You need to switch to a extremely low fat diet and limit your calorie intake to around 2000 calories. I did this by eating a lot of canned tuna and cut carbs out almost completely a few years back. You need to exercise at least 30 minutes a day, but if you want to maximize your workout time, break it up into 2-3 15 minute runs (shoot for 1.5-2 miles per run) I recommend running at 6am, noon, and 11pm.

Don't eat after 6pm and make breakfast your largest meal.

If you burn the calories you take in and go to bed hungry at night, your body will simply have to burn fat. It won't have any other choice. It takes a lot of hard work and time, but you should be able to cut that 30 pounds in 6 weeks with that plan. You just have to identify the foods that give you the maximum energy with minimum calories/fat.

I suggest canned tuna, pinto beans, ground sirloin (to rebuild muscle after the runs), fresh fruits (pectin curbs your appetite), and fresh vegetables. Take a multivitamin as well to help your immune system deal with the sudden changes of diet and exercise. I recommend eating at least 1 raw jalepeno a day as well (do this 8 hours away from when you take the multivitamin). This will give you maximum benefit and give you a mega-boost of vitamin C.
 
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: maximus maximus
See... the problem with dieting is that ultimately your urge gives away. You can diet for 10 days, 20 days, 6 months... but then what?

You cannot diet forever.
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So you need to always exercise, and lift weights to increase your metabolism. Don't drink soda, or eat candy, and limit fast food. All fad diets are destined to fail, as you just pointed out. Lifestyle change is the key, not dieting. The only dieting you should do is if you are trying to lose weight, in which case you should simply lower the amount of calories you take in. You can still remain sated throughout the day if you eat good food. Check out the Glycemic Index, eat food that has a low GI number, make sure to eat plenty of fiber, protein, and good fats (olive oil, peanuts, fish) at meals. If you need to snack do it on vegetables or fruit.
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I do not each too much of junk food. I am also a vegetarian, so I eat vegetables almost all the time.

I was not aware of the Glycemic index though.....
 
Originally posted by: maximus maximus
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: maximus maximus
See... the problem with dieting is that ultimately your urge gives away. You can diet for 10 days, 20 days, 6 months... but then what?

You cannot diet forever.
Click to expand...

So you need to always exercise, and lift weights to increase your metabolism. Don't drink soda, or eat candy, and limit fast food. All fad diets are destined to fail, as you just pointed out. Lifestyle change is the key, not dieting. The only dieting you should do is if you are trying to lose weight, in which case you should simply lower the amount of calories you take in. You can still remain sated throughout the day if you eat good food. Check out the Glycemic Index, eat food that has a low GI number, make sure to eat plenty of fiber, protein, and good fats (olive oil, peanuts, fish) at meals. If you need to snack do it on vegetables or fruit.
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I do not each too much of junk food. I am also a vegetarian, so I eat vegetables almost all the time.

I was not aware of the Glycemic index though.....
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Examples of high GI foods are white bread, instant and short-grain rice (especially Calrose), instant oats, Cream of Wheat, watermelon, and most sugar. Low GI foods are most whole grains, beans, lentils, most fruits, vegetables, meat, eggs, and dairy.

Edit: Basically high GI foods cause big fluctuations in blood sugar which can leave you feeling hungry again soon after eating them. Many high GI foods are also digested quite rapidly and removed from your stomach, causing you to feel empty. Acids help lower GI though, so some people recommend drinking a glass of water with a tablespoon of vinegar (acetic acid) with every meal. That's sort of nasty, so you can eat a salad with oil/vinegar dressing instead, or eat foods that naturally have acid in them. For example, white bread is bad, but white sourdough bread isn't so bad because the acid in it lowers the GI and slows digestion. Another example would be tabouleh, a Middle Eastern salad made from bulgur (parboiled wheat). Because it's made with lemon juice (acidic) it has a lower GI than might be expected.
 
What the hell does your daily food intake look like if you are a vegetarian and you are that heavy for that height?

Are you eating a full bag of doritos a day and putting half a gallon of ranch dressing on your salad?

Eek!
 
Originally posted by: maximus maximus
See... the problem with dieting is that ultimately your urge gives away. You can diet for 10 days, 20 days, 6 months... but then what?

You cannot diet forever.
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Its not a diet. Its a lifestyle change. I stay around 10% almost year round with a hard routine and I high protein diet mixed with fruit/veggies/fiber.

I stay away from white sugar/flour as much as possible.
 
Lifestyle change is what's needed. You can still eat your cake, just eat one piece instead of two and most importantly be on a daily, enjoyable, long duration exercise routine such as walking, running, or cycling. Making yourself suffer in any way with regard to losing weight is just going to be self-defeating.
 
There is no magic pill.

You need to eat 5-6 times a day, high protein, low fat. It is that simple.
 
Educate yourself kimosabi.

Read some of those articles on diet and exercise. Try jump rope training. Try animal walks.

As far as fat burners go, you really need to have your diet and fitness training in check. Then you can add a fat burner. I currently recommend hot-rox extreme by Biotest. Nothing is safer and nothing beats it.
 
FWIW - I dropped 20 pounds in about 2.5 months time. I went from 185 down to 165 (I'm 6' tall) by simply cutting back on beer, weighting most of my calories consumption earlier in the day, and greatly bumping up my fiber & low fat source protien intake.

Beans, high fiber whole grain breads, fruit (berries & pineapple), oatmeal, tuna, chicken, cottage cheese, spinach. Those are power foods. Have a couple cups of green tea throughout the day for appetite suppressant and toss in 45 minutes of cardio 3x a week and weight lifting 3x a week along with it. Shoot for about 2000 quality calories from the power foods. Get some egg whites or whey protien to supplement your lack of protien sources.

I've been able to easily maintain my weight with moderate exercise (I walk 3 miles a day with my wife 3-4 times a week) and eating responsibly. I still have a beer every now and then. I still have ice cream fairly often. But I make sure that I eat more responsibly throughout the day to account for that.
 
Oh, I'd avoid a low fat diet. Fat is an essential nutrient (even saturated fat). What you should do is pay attention to how much fat you are eating (especially saturated), not avoid it entirely. Fat helps in maintaining satiety, and is therefore important when taking in a caloric deficit (dieting). The RDA for fat is contained in about a 1/4 cup of olive oil a day, but half that is probably sufficient.

I suppose when people say low fat diet they are describing that as relative to the standard American diet though, which tends to have way too much fat in it...
 
Originally posted by: kogase
Oh, I'd avoid a low fat diet. Fat is an essential nutrient (even saturated fat). What you should do is pay attention to how much fat you are eating (especially saturated), not avoid it entirely. Fat helps in maintaining satiety, and is therefore important when taking in a caloric deficit (dieting). The RDA for fat is contained in about a 1/4 cup of olive oil a day, but half that is probably sufficient.
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Most people have no problem getting enough fat in the day. Low fat is a good thing to shoot for. No fat is not.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: kogase
Oh, I'd avoid a low fat diet. Fat is an essential nutrient (even saturated fat). What you should do is pay attention to how much fat you are eating (especially saturated), not avoid it entirely. Fat helps in maintaining satiety, and is therefore important when taking in a caloric deficit (dieting). The RDA for fat is contained in about a 1/4 cup of olive oil a day, but half that is probably sufficient.
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Most people have no problem getting enough fat in the day. Low fat is a good thing to shoot for. No fat is not.
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If you ate nothing but lentils, rice and lettuce you'd probably have some difficulties. The natural human nutritional needs assume some sources of concentrated fat (seeds, nuts, lean meat).
 
Cut out snacking and junk food and exercise regularly and vigorously. Also, if you drink alcohol you might cut that out or limit it severely as that just goes right to your waist.

Don't waste your time or money on fad diets or pills. Most of those options aren't very healthy and some can be downright dangerous.
 
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