Fasting

[Torn Mind]

So, I'm doing a course of fasting.
I'm currently on my 2nd full day.

Last meal was a pretty rich one, which might have delayed the hunger pangs. 27% fat Ground Beef and onions.

I managed to do a 36-hour fast maybe a month or two ago.

Anyway, the first full day of fasting wasn't bad. But, my stomach did make to wake me up and thus get some bad sleep overnight.

Currently on day 2. I kind of feel better than in the recent past, being able to read things without annoyance or tiring easily.

I've been eating bad for at least 5 months, with plenty of stuff I should be avoiding but did not due to stress. Basically, simple carbs like noodles, etc.

I find that if I busy myself, I can ignore my stomach's ache.

Doing this to get back mental clarity via autophagy. I intend to try and keep this up until the fat pads on my fingers disappear. Will take a vitamin maybe tomorrow.

I also haven't gone to the bathroom to poop since Sunday.

I will see what glucagon Shangri La is like for the first time.

 

[Hotrod2go]

I commend the OP with the attempt at fasting, done this before but only for 24 hrs. My only suggestion is to be sure you don't neglect your fluid intake & avoid diuretics like coffee & alcohol, even some herbal teas like dandelion root for example can cause excessive water to pass from your system. Water highly recommended, you just have to be conscientious of it & self regulating.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If you start to feel weird in your kidneys, that could be a sign of mineral depletion. For that, drink some reputed brand of mineral water that contains electrolytes. Or you could try a pinch of table salt mixed with a pinch of pink salt. Mix it in water and drink it up.

 

[Torn Mind]

I commend the OP with the attempt at fasting, done this before but only for 24 hrs. My only suggestion is to be sure you don't neglect your fluid intake & avoid diuretics like coffee & alcohol, even some herbal teas like dandelion root for example can cause excessive water to pass from your system. Water highly recommended, you just have to be conscientious of it & self regulating.

Today is Day 3.

My experience this morning is quite the contrast from the previous two days. I feel sharp, and not hungry. Head feels clear and light...even though the sleep last night was not that great.

In my prior attempt a month or two ago, I was really going for the water bottles to compensate for the hunger. This time, I don't really feel thirsty that much.

I did take a D3+K2 supplement yesterday.

Need a clear mind to help my mom prepare for a small claims case and the "rut" I was in prior needed to be eliminate.

Given that it has been observed HGH increases substantially during fasting, I'll milk this as long as possible until the real urge comes along to eat.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I also haven't gone to the bathroom to poop since Sunday.

Any magnesium supplement other than magnesium citrate will help with that. Normally 400mg per day should be enough. I don't recommend citrate form because the intestines may become dependent on that.

 

[Torn Mind]

If you start to feel weird in your kidneys, that could be a sign of mineral depletion. For that, drink some reputed brand of mineral water that contains electrolytes. Or you could try a pinch of table salt mixed with a pinch of pink salt. Mix it in water and drink it up.

I'm not as far gone as you nor do I eat as weird as you. I do not take supplements besides K2+D3 supplement, turmeric, multivitamin, or B-complex, and I've only been consistent with the K2+D3.

I'll refeed with maybe sardines, maybe broccoli, eggs, mollusks, and/or liver when the time comes.

I haven't used the bathroom much at all these days.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Make it to end of day 5 and you will enjoy much improved glycemic response.

Also, a side benefit is, you can say, "Look Ma! Look Sis! No food! I'm not dead!" and it might inspire them to try it for themselves.

 

[Torn Mind]

Make it to end of day 5 and you will enjoy much improved glycemic response.

Also, a side benefit is, you can say, "Look Ma! Look Sis! No food! I'm not dead!" and it might inspire them to try it for themselves.

My mother has a habit of unintentional fasting to do "work", be it mental or physical.



Midday update:
No real appetite so far today.

 

[Jimminy]

My mother has a habit of unintentional fasting to do "work", be it mental or physical.



Midday update:
No real appetite so far today.

You're doing great. Might be time to try some gentle self flagellation

 

[Torn Mind]

You're doing great. Might be time to try some gentle self flagellation

Suffering felt on day 3 = zero.

I feel more comfortable reading documents, both paper and on a screen. I also think my sense of touch has improved.

 

[Torn Mind]

So, today would be the fourth full day. Stomach didn't give me a good sleep again. Feel a little hungrier than yesterday, but it's not a big deal if I keep myself busy. I still have plenty of fat on my fingers.

Anyway, I drank some salt water along with normal water. Haven't urinated much and still no defecation.

Forgot to mention the most random of memories came back to me yesterday. The "I Dream of Jeannie" theme popped up into my head. Probably never thought of that for years, like before high school or something when it was shown on Virginia WNVT. I never watched the show, only saw the commercials.

 

[igor_kavinski]

The "I Dream of Jeannie" theme popped up into my head.

You should see it. It's a sign from above.

 

[Torn Mind]

You should see it. It's a sign from above.

I doubt it. It's just the music that just decided to reintroduce itself.

 

[Torn Mind]

Starting probably after 4-5 today(Nov 18), it seems that I can finally read things for a longer period of time, be it on a computer screen or paper. Haven't had that ability for a very long time.

 

[igor_kavinski]

it seems that I can finally read things for a longer period of time

What happened before? You would get a headache?

 

[Torn Mind]

What happened before? You would get a headache?

You could call it that. No overt pain, but the process of reading could not be done for a sustained period of time.

Basically, the only time I could read for prolonged periods in the fast is if I had obsessive interest in the topic, then it could override the fatigue. But if it is a subject I did not have an affinity with...it was a struggle.

 

[Torn Mind]

Day 5. Sleep was actually good this time.

Feeling a bit weaker in terms of stamina.

Would point out I feel sharper in colder temps than warmer temps. If shift from cold to warm, my energy drops like a tank.

Confounding variable could be the Presto Heat Dish providing infrared radiation.

Have been feeling the dry mouth today, so I drank much more salt water and regular water.


I don't think my urination has massively increased. Maybe 3 times a day. I only went once today so far.

My fat pads on my fingers have finally lost their firmness and is no longer is a firm bulge. Still plenty to burn. Goes to show that even at my light weight, it is possible to be overfattened.

I will probably hold off until Monday so I can get a blood draw to fulfill my curiosity at what a lipid and metabolic panel looks like.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Have been feeling the dry mouth today, so I drank much more salt water and regular water.

I don't think my urination has massively increased. Maybe 3 times a day. I only went once today so far.

May want to take some pink salt water too. The sodium should be balanced out with potassium.

 

[Torn Mind]

Impact of calorie restriction and intermittent fasting on periodontal health - PubMed

The scientific evidence indicates that calorie restriction and intermittent fasting are among the appropriate strategies targeting factual causative factors of various inflammatory and lifestyle-related disorders. Periodontitis is a common oral inflammatory disease leading to bone loss that is...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

#118 Impact of fasting on systemic inflammation in periodontitis in mice | Journal of Pharmaceutical Chemistry

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Just some things I came across the internet looking at fasting on periodontits.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Fasting and intermittent fasting is good stuff. I never micro managed what I eat or fasted before hitting my 50s. Having recently joined the 55+ crowd, I do all of that now. Also do a week or 2 at a time where I eat a ton of living greens when I need to lean out a bit. Cutting my red meat intake down massively, and giving up caffeine, has been paying dividends too.

It's the holidays, so I have fallen off the wagon on intermittent fasting, but I'll pick it up when the feasting is over. Fasting is tougher to do. It works if my focus is karate, kickboxing, that kind of cardio heavy stuff. But if I lift heavy, I get ravenously hungry.

 

[Torn Mind]

Got a good sleep last night again.

Waking up was the same. Was "awake" by 6am, but could not get up until around 9.

My cold resistance is better today than yesterday. I even went and trimmed some tree branches in 33 degree weather for about 10 minutes, than cut more from inside a house with about 48 degree ambient temps.

The dry mouth is really a problem.

Fast was broken a couple minutes ago with some Bubbies saukekraut. Tastes good.

Other foods eaten
1/2 can of King Oscar Sardines in olive oil. (I really don't like fish, lol).
2 pieces of romaine lettuce
1/2 egg
7 Artisan Wraps Prosciuttto/Mozzarella Wraps
1 Clementine

Supplements
3 pcs K2+D3
2 Tumeric+Curcumin pills (1500mg)
1 Ester-C

"Dinner" involved one Asian pear and a little Santa Cruz Dark Peanut Butter.

----------------Day 2------------
Had day's only meal at 6pm which consisted of some:
1. lettucue, chicken, cheese, and bacon from a Walmart Cobb Salad mixture
2. 1/8 or so of Whole Foods pumpkin pie
3. 21 blueberries.
4. Bubbies sauerkraut

-------------Day 3-------------
6pm meal includes
approx 3oz bubbies sauerkraut
3-4 oz of lettuce and assorted greens
1/2 a sweet potato
29 blueberries
1-1.5oz pork liver
1 apple
1 Lindt 90% chocolate square
1 nibble of Old Croc cheese.

 

[Torn Mind]

Couple thoughts I think I forgot.

There is some sort of effect on the muscles. I guess quasi-opioid in that many of the aches dull themselves away during the fast. Also, I couldn't do any trigger therapy on myself as my body would just quit.

I find it rather easy to space 24 hours between meals...and maybe I will continue a 24-hour cycle in the near future.

I also checked out "The Fasting Lane" by Jason Fung from the library...won't help me much, but if someone needs a primer and a couple people to relate with...it's a start.

 

[igor_kavinski]

many of the aches dull themselves away during the fast.

That's the inflammation going down. Also, the muscles may be repairing themselves faster.

 

[Torn Mind]

That's the inflammation going down. Also, the muscles may be repairing themselves faster.

The muscle knots are still there. Now that I broke the fast, they are better felt, but not at the level before the fast. They respond better to finger pressure as well. But they certainly did not go away.

 

[deadlyapp]

Day 5. Sleep was actually good this time.

Feeling a bit weaker in terms of stamina.

Would point out I feel sharper in colder temps than warmer temps. If shift from cold to warm, my energy drops like a tank.

Confounding variable could be the Presto Heat Dish providing infrared radiation.

Have been feeling the dry mouth today, so I drank much more salt water and regular water.


I don't think my urination has massively increased. Maybe 3 times a day. I only went once today so far.

My fat pads on my fingers have finally lost their firmness and is no longer is a firm bulge. Still plenty to burn. Goes to show that even at my light weight, it is possible to be overfattened.

I will probably hold off until Monday so I can get a blood draw to fulfill my curiosity at what a lipid and metabolic panel looks like.

You keep calling them fat pads. Literally all you did through this fast is generally dehydrate yourself. You lost water weight, nothing more.