Fastest growing jobs since 2003

charrison

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linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.


Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage


Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...


 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:



Sure dave....
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:

Sure dave....

Typical of Republicans, more lies and deception.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:

Sure dave....

Typical of Republicans, more lies and deception.



Well why dont you care to show me stats on the growth of mcjobs and wallyworld greeters....Oh yeah you cant...so who is spreading lies and deception. It is certainly not me.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:

Sure dave....

Typical of Republicans, more lies and deception.

Well why dont you care to show me stats on the growth of mcjobs and wallyworld greeters....Oh yeah you cant...so who is spreading lies and deception. It is certainly not me.

Actually McJobs are in decline in the U.S. and Wallyworld is now concentrating on expansion in Europe.

Look at your chart again, next to Internet jobs which are a dime a dozen, temp jobs is the next highest.

You trying to say temp jobs is the high paying jobs you rave about with no health insurance???

Temporary is what you are proud of America?

How pathetic
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:

Sure dave....

Typical of Republicans, more lies and deception.

Well why dont you care to show me stats on the growth of mcjobs and wallyworld greeters....Oh yeah you cant...so who is spreading lies and deception. It is certainly not me.

Actually McJobs are in decline in the U.S. and Wallyworld is now concentrating on expansion in Europe.

Look at your chart again, next to Internet jobs which are a dime a dozen, temp jobs is the next highest.

You trying to say temp jobs is the high paying jobs you rave about with no health insurance???

Temporary is what you are proud of America?

How pathetic

You are still delussional. The point here was that good paying jobs are being created. THis part cannot be denied, but you are trying desperatly to do that.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:

Internet publishing??? Total employment 36,100 jobs???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Where the hell did they pull that one from?

Oh, wait. Let me guess...

It's brown...

And it smells like...

Yep, right out of their a$$e$. :laugh:

And it's followed by "temporary help services"!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:

Internet publishing??? Total employment 36,100 jobs???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Where the hell did they pull that one from?

Oh, wait. Let me guess...

It's brown...

And it smells like...

Yep, right out of their a$$e$. :laugh:

And it's followed by "temporary help services"!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The really sad and pathetic thing is this is what the Republicans, especially the ones on here are proud of. :(
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.


Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage


Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...
WTH is "internet publishing"?

Also, the next two are jobs that typically don't offer benefits. Beautiful
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674


The really sad and pathetic thing is this is what the Republicans, especially the ones on here are proud of. :(

Well, really, when you think about it, they don't have much to be proud of so they're forced to cling to anything they can muster.

And this is all they can muster.

pitiful

.
 

BBond

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And "Fastest growing jobs since 2003"!!!?

By 2003 Bush had destroyed the economy to the point where the kids on my block setting up a lemonade stand would have been the "Fastest growing jobs since 2003". :roll:

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
You are still delussional. The point here was that good paying jobs are being created. This part cannot be denied, but you are trying desperatly to do that.

The old saying a picture is worth a thousand words:

U.S. Unemployment

Yeah, well. Bill Gates couldn't sustain us forever. No matter how hard he tried. It is nice to see that you appreciate the good stuff he did for us, though.

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
linkage to the chart

The Wall Street Journal has a story today (sr) on which sectors are expanding and contracting since June 2003. So here is some fairly substantial evidence on the question of which kind of jobs the US economy is creating in the latest economic expansion.

Some of them are service jobs that pay below the average. Some are service jobs that pay above average. Some are in construction. Some are in mining. Some are in architecture. Health services. Computer design. They're from all over the economy. Some are good jobs. Some are great. Some not so great. There's also these great numbers:

According to data compiled by UBS Securities, in the past year, the economy has produced 899,000 jobs in industries in which average wages exceed the national average of roughly $15 an hour, such as Internet publishing and engineering. It has produced 905,000 jobs in industries with below-average wages, such as food services and building-supply retailers.

Not surprisingly, about half of the jobs are in above-average paying sectors. About half are in below-average paying sectors.
linage

Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...

Oh come on.

The chart doesn't even list mcjobs and wallyworld greeters because if it did it would be off the chart. :roll:

Internet publishing??? Total employment 36,100 jobs???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Where the hell did they pull that one from?

Oh, wait. Let me guess...

It's brown...

And it smells like...

Yep, right out of their a$$e$. :laugh:

And it's followed by "temporary help services"!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

The really sad and pathetic thing is this is what the Republicans, especially the ones on here are proud of. :(

Liberal governance with their "service based economy" dreams sold us out and then Clintons about face to Arrafat so that Hilary could get elected by the heavily Jewish population in New York put us under attack. Reality, the harsh drug!

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: charrison
[ ... ]
Well so much for everything being mcjobs and wallyworld greeters...
Nice straw man. The issue is a shift in employment, from "good" jobs (i.e., high-paying high quality jobs with full benefits and a career path) to low-paying, low quality jobs (e.g., temp work). It is obvious to any thoughtful person that all the good jobs did NOT suddenly disappear and that some new good jobs are still being created. The issue is the overall balance between the two, that we are losing good jobs and gaining poor ones. Your link provides further evidence of the erosion of quality employment.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Condor
Liberal governance with their "service based economy" dreams sold us out and then Clintons about face to Arrafat so that Hilary could get elected by the heavily Jewish population in New York put us under attack. Reality, the harsh drug!
Yawn.

Have you ever contributed anything substantive to any thread here?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: conjur
WTH is "internet publishing"?

Also, the next two are jobs that typically don't offer benefits. Beautiful
Blogging, for the most part. Another job with scarce benefits.
 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Condor
Liberal governance with their "service based economy" dreams sold us out and then Clintons about face to Arrafat so that Hilary could get elected by the heavily Jewish population in New York put us under attack. Reality, the harsh drug!
Yawn.

Have you ever contributed anything substantive to any thread here?

You mean like cutting and pasting someone else?s thinking from some other web site or something that someone else has published? Is that what you define as substantive? Perhaps something pedantic and verbose? That would make me you, wouldn't it? Something biased beyond belief and totally out of touch with reality? Getting close? Do you ever have an original thought or accomplish real analysis? If you do, where do you publish it?
 

Stunt

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These are the values coming out of the recession, while i congratulate the US on its current economic boom and steady, solid job growth (not McJobs as some advocate); I'd like to see these numbers compared to 2000 job numbers. This will give an indication of how many jobs have been hired back, and of course taking into account the yearly increases in population.

Issues with the data:
1) the dates are taken from the lowest of the lows to the highs now. (only says better than recession times, how about good times?)
2) most growth in internet jobs that were hit the hardest and represent VERY few of the total workforce. (36k in 100+m)
3) second biggest growth is the lowest paying area (temp work), now with rising housing and inflation, one person could represent 2 or more of these jobs.

Some things to consider.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Condor
Liberal governance with their "service based economy" dreams sold us out and then Clintons about face to Arrafat so that Hilary could get elected by the heavily Jewish population in New York put us under attack. Reality, the harsh drug!
Yawn.

Have you ever contributed anything substantive to any thread here?

No, he hasn't.

To the OP: Service jobs, here we come. This will, IMO, drive the standard of living down in the US over time. The gap between classes will widen and all the technology in the world won't help if you can't sell it to anyone. *sigh*

Temp. service jobs? *sigh*
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Condor
Liberal governance with their "service based economy" dreams sold us out and then Clintons about face to Arrafat so that Hilary could get elected by the heavily Jewish population in New York put us under attack. Reality, the harsh drug!
Yawn.

Have you ever contributed anything substantive to any thread here?

You mean like cutting and pasting someone else?s thinking from some other web site or something that someone else has published? Is that what you define as substantive? Perhaps something pedantic and verbose? That would make me you, wouldn't it? Something biased beyond belief and totally out of touch with reality? Getting close? Do you ever have an original thought or accomplish real analysis? If you do, where do you publish it?

You people crack me up. You always demand proof. When it's given to you, you complain about people posting others' thoughts.

Which one is it? Do you want documentation to go along with our opinions? Or would you rather that we adopt your strategy and just make baseless claims?

PS In case you hadn't noticed.
 
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Engineers, construction, mining, architecture...all increasing?

Pretty amazing for a country that doesn't actually produce anything anymore, eh?
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Engineers, construction, mining, architecture...all increasing?

Pretty amazing for a country that doesn't actually produce anything anymore, eh?

So what are we producing? Coal? Houses?