Fastest Coppermine?

[sundev]

Is there a PIII 1 GHz that is a Coppermine core? I know the Tualatin goes beyond 1 GHz, but I need a CPU that will go with my Asus P3V4X without using a slotket.

So is the 933 the best I can do, or is there a 1 GHz Coppermine somewhere out there?

 

[Aenslead]

There was up to 1.3Ghz in the S (server) version.

1Ghz was the highest for desktop.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Aenslead
There was up to 1.3Ghz in the S (server) version.

1Ghz was the highest for desktop.

are you sure? I'm pretty sure the coppermine stopped at 1GHz, I remember the 1.13 coppermine fiasco. I'm pretty sure any socket 370 P3 over 1GHz is going to be a tualatin core.

 

[Doctorweir]

You are right about the fiasco...intel tried to push the coppermine further, but it maxed out at 1.13, which was not stable inthe beginning...
Everything above, i.e. PIII "S" and Celerons up to 1.4GHz featured the 0.13u Tualatin core

So for the question above: You can get 1 GHz...or buy a Tually and do the mod, if you do not want to use the adaptor...I used a Tualatin Celeron 1.2 in a BX-board @1740 MHz for quite a while...very competitive

 

[sundev]

Hmm.. so if I got a 1GHz Coppermine it wouldn't be a great overclocker (if at all?) Maybe I should just get a Tualatin and use the damn slotket.

In either case, does anyone know where I can get them for cheap?

 

[TStep]

to sundevb on OC:

Best i ever had a Coppermine was 1200mhz, and that was a Celeron 128k. Best tually I had was @ 1700+ mhz (a 1.0A Celeron on a VH6-T mobo) and that was really pushng the pci limits so I am not sure if the cpu or the system failed. Remember a tualeron has a 256k L2 just the same as a coppermine PIII, so in the case of a tualatin celeron, don't be afraid of the celeron not performing. PIII tualatins a generally expensive.

 

[sundev]

Good point TStep. I guess it really doesn't matter if I need to use a slotket if I can get those kinds of speeds (over 1.2 GHz would be fantastic).

So I would need a socket 370 Celeron (Tualatin core) and an adapter that allows socket 370 Tualatins to run on a Slot-1 motherboard.

Anyone know where I can get those? I've already posted on the FS/FT forum.

 

[TStep]

I see them on Ebay quite often, though they are not cheap for the slot 1 > tually converver. I would just do a search for tualatin, Celeron 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4.

 

[Doctorweir]

You also could use a standard Slot1=>Socket370 converter and mod the Tualatin (Pin & Wire-mod) manually, so you don't need the expensive adaptors to get a Tually-compatible Socket370...

 

[TStep]

Originally posted by: Doctorweir
You also could use a standard Slot1=>Socket370 converter and mod the Tualatin (Pin & Wire-mod) manually, so you don't need the expensive adaptors to get a Tually-compatible Socket370...

Forgot about that. Good info on that subject at The Lunchbox

 

[StrangerGuy]

Are you trying to upgrade your rig in your signature? I say don't bother with P3 upgrades unless you can get one cheap or for free, its isn't worth it.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Doctorweir
You are right about the fiasco...intel tried to push the coppermine further, but it maxed out at 1.13, which was not stable inthe beginning...
Everything above, i.e. PIII "S" and Celerons up to 1.4GHz featured the 0.13u Tualatin core

So for the question above: You can get 1 GHz...or buy a Tually and do the mod, if you do not want to use the adaptor...I used a Tualatin Celeron 1.2 in a BX-board @1740 MHz for quite a while...very competitive

OMG! What kinda of 440 board can do that... I maxed out a copermine 550 at 616...then again, that was a stupid shuttle board.

 

[Doctorweir]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h

Originally posted by: Doctorweir
You are right about the fiasco...intel tried to push the coppermine further, but it maxed out at 1.13, which was not stable inthe beginning...
Everything above, i.e. PIII "S" and Celerons up to 1.4GHz featured the 0.13u Tualatin core

So for the question above: You can get 1 GHz...or buy a Tually and do the mod, if you do not want to use the adaptor...I used a Tualatin Celeron 1.2 in a BX-board @1740 MHz for quite a while...very competitive

OMG! What kinda of 440 board can do that... I maxed out a copermine 550 at 616...then again, that was a stupid shuttle board.

Abit BF6; 145MHz FSB; PC133 222 by Infineon (still 222 @ 145); 1.7v
But the capacitors blew after 2 years so I had to solder on quality ones...but again up and running as backup-rig
Finally upgraded because of the 512MB ram limit...

 

[Leper Messiah]

oh. The stupid shuttle board I was using maxed out at 112 Fsb. It has no overvotling options either, so I was SOL that way. I was happy to get 12% at stock voltage though...

 

[bacillus]

there are 2 1GHz P3 coppermine models, one @100fsb & the other at 133fsb.

 

[Promethply]

The 1.133 was recalled due to instability problems,

so the highest frequency model they sold were the 1GHz @ 133FSB,

and shortly later, the 1.1GHz @ 100FSB

 

[christopherzombie]

Originally posted by: Promethply
The 1.133 was recalled due to instability problems,

so the highest frequency model they sold were the 1GHz @ 133FSB,

and shortly later, the 1.1GHz @ 100FSB

There are limited quantities of 1.133ghz that shipped.

 

[Auric]

I had a P1.1 Coppermine (SL5QW - OEM only) which ran in an Abit BH6 via an Abit Slotket adapter @ 1234 MHz (11 x 112 MHz FSB) at reduced voltage of 1.65 (rather than 1.75 spec) so presumably it could have clocked significantly higher given compliant mobo & RAM. However, such era mobo/BIOS' were limited in FSB adjustments since PCI/AGP were dependent upon divisors rather than allowing to be fixed.

If the system is able to use a Tualatin (with cheap adapter if necessary), then the C1.1 (or higher) is faster to begin with, more overclockable, cooler, more widely available and cheaper.

 

[Spikesoldier]

Originally posted by: christopherzombie

Originally posted by: Promethply
The 1.133 was recalled due to instability problems,

so the highest frequency model they sold were the 1GHz @ 133FSB,

and shortly later, the 1.1GHz @ 100FSB

There are limited quantities of 1.133ghz that shipped.

but were recalled. i believe kyle @ hardOCP still has one.

 

[Spikesoldier]

Originally posted by: Promethply
The 1.133 was recalled due to instability problems,

so the highest frequency model they sold were the 1GHz @ 133FSB,

and shortly later, the 1.1GHz @ 100FSB

this is the correct answer.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: sundevb
Maybe I should just get a Tualatin and use the damn slotket.

In either case, does anyone know where I can get them for cheap?

Upgradeware Slot-T $23.95

I got one from them but am not using it anymore. PM me if interested. I have a 1.2GHz Tualatin Celeron in it, potential 1.6GHz overclock.

 

[Rand]

The Pentium 3 1.13GHz Coppermine was later relaunched in the cD0 stepping some time after the Pentium 4 launched.... about mid 2001 if I recall. I don't believe it was ever sold as a Boxed product, but you could buy them in OEM.
Never saw much popularity though, as by that time the shipping PIII's were primarily faster Tualitin cores and the Willamette P4 had been on the market for awhile then and was up to 1.8GHz.

The fastest Coppermine core sold in volume was the 1.1GHz/100MHz FSB model... launched shortly after the P4, and sold pretty well as an upgrade option for older 100MHz FSB 440BX boards. That processor was also cD0 stepping, and available in OEM only.

 

[Rand]

FWIW... the fasest Tualitin's were the 1.4GHz P3-S, they were and likely still are rather expensive due to their relative scarcity and target market.
Tualatin Celeron's at 1.4GHz performed rather respectably and could probably be had cheaply via EBay I'd imagine.

 

[andy nowotny]

PIII 1G has the coppermine core

 

[Promethply]

Originally posted by: Rand

The fastest Coppermine core sold in volume was the 1.1GHz/100MHz FSB model... launched shortly after the P4, and sold pretty well as an upgrade option for older 100MHz FSB 440BX boards. That processor was also cD0 stepping, and available in OEM only.

The 1.1GHz using the 100FSB was only fastest in its total frequency alone, but at stock speed, the 1GHz with the 133FSB performs better in games and other real-life tasks.