Fast SCSI DVD-ROM and CDRW?

[usual_suspect]

Can anyone recommend a good site to read up on the latest and greatest SCSI CD drives. My DVD rom just died and my 8X burner is getting long in the tooth. All of the 48X CDRW's I have seen have been IDE. I'm looking for SCSI only though, and as fast as possible. Thanks.

 

[Shagga]

As far as i know the fastest SCSI CDRW drive is 12w x 10rw x 32r and is made by Plextor. I have the Plextor UltraPleX 40max and the PlexWriter 12/10/32S and have yet to hear of a better comination. However, in terms of bandwidth the new USB drives should continue where SCSI stopped I would guess.

I have no intentions of changing the above for the foreseeable future as it just works really well.

 

[mcveigh]

yamaha has their latest and greatest cdrw drive in scsi
but.................. it's really their ide drive with a scsi to ide convertor:|

see other thread here

edit:

Yamaha CRW-F1ZS
44X/24X/44X SCSI

 

[usual_suspect]

I guess I hadn't shopped for drives in a while. I didn't know the development on SCSI CDRW had all but stopped. Maybe my 8X scsi CDR is not so long in the tooth after all. I guess I will have to look into IDE for the burner.

I also thought that the CPU utilization on the USB drives would be higher than SCSI but I don't know.

Do you know if the speeds on SCSI DVD-ROM's are as far behind?

 

[Shagga]

My bad....SCSI DVD-ROM drive! Is there such an animal? There probably is but I don't think there is much call for SCSI CD/DVD ROM drives any more. I use a Pioneer Slot DVD ROM drive but it is IDE. What do you want it for? The only reason for a fast DVD drives is so that you can rip data from DVD to your hard drives quickly isn't it so I see no real
benefit in it, unless that is you do that sort of thing all day. Access times are usually slower on DVD drives which bugs the hell outta me sometimes...

 

[usual_suspect]

Well, I have been known to rip data from DVD's to my hard drive, from time to time, for backup of course. When I do, my CPU utilization goes into orbit with my current IDE DVD drive; and I have a dual Athlon MP2000 system.

I think you had it right, I was looking for both a scsi CDRW and scsi DVD-ROM separately.

Thanks for the link to that other thread mcveigh. Sad about Yamaha passing of an IDE drive as scsi; the search continues I guess. I thought there would at least be a niche market for scsi CDRW and scsi DVD-ROM's beyond single digit speed ratings.

edit: I just checked again and the cup util. is only about 53% during ripping, both cpu's. Still, I notice the slowdown.

 

[mcveigh]

I'm pretty sure there are at lest 10x scsi cdroms, but where I think I saw them I don't remember

edit:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/P...ctDetails/0,1444,30~3010~3010500~1744,00.html
10x according to them

http://www.cdrominc.com/product/1155_fr.asp
16x according to this place

 

[WebDude]

Pioneer makes a scsi slot-load 10xDVD/40xCD drive. The 305S: link I have one and haven't had any problems with it.

WebDude

 

[Smbu]

There have been any new scsi cdrw drives in a while.(not counting the yamaha ide/scsi drive) Plextor stopped after there 12x10x32 drives.(I still have 2 of these, 1 ext. and 1 int.)

Last I heard about scsi dvd drives was 10x speed ones. I'm not sure if they made any other ones after that. I have a Pioneer 6x slot load scsi dvd drive in my desktop. Still works great w/dvd's, but is crap for reading regular cd's. I need my Plextor for that.

 

[vec]

Anyone have any luck with using a ide->scsi adapter on a 40x ide cdrw? That would be a nice to have. Although the price of those converters are about $70!

 

[Smbu]

Originally posted by: vec
Anyone have any luck with using a ide->scsi adapter on a 40x ide cdrw? That would be a nice to have. Although the price of those converters are about $70!

Isn't that what yamaha is doing w/their 44x "scsi" drive? using an ide->scsi converter.

 

[mastertech01]

Ive been sticking it out with my trusty ol Plextor 8/20. Ive had a 12/10/32S and they are fine drives but dont burn every format that the old 8/20 does. Its a little faster burning, a lot faster reading but I also run separate Plextor readers when I need fast read only. I dont burn that often so its not a big deal to me to be the fastest on the block. I like the dependability and flexibility of this old CDR. I do believe Yamaha has a true 24x SCSI writer but I dont know many who really had good results with it. For DVD the Pioneer 305S is a pretty good drive, and even the older 303S.

 

[Linglan]

For SCSI DVD, you need to check Pioneer. For the SCSI CDRW, Sanyo BP5 is last real scsi model, 24/10/32 or 24/10/40. I forgot.


Linglan

 

[jose]

I'd get a Toshiba scsi dvd & a Plextor scsi cdr/rw.

I got the slot loading Pioneer, but had problems w/ games.

The Pioneer could not read the subcode section on some games that I wanted to
backup for safety reasons

Regards,
Jose

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: mcveigh
yamaha has their latest and greatest cdrw drive in scsi
but.................. it's really their ide drive with a scsi to ide convertor:|

What the problem with that? I am using a Plextor 40Wide and Plexwriter 12/10/32S and was thinking of going to a faster reader, and also a Pioneer 303 DVD

 

[Bobbyeyes]

While we are on the topic..

has anyone tried a SCSI RAM DRIVE yet?

they were 0ver $2000, now are around $500.
i am curious if anyone has one and is happy w/ it.

 

[Whitedog]

<<Well, I have been known to rip data from DVD's to my hard drive, from time to time, for backup of course. When I do, my CPU utilization goes into orbit with my current IDE DVD drive; and I have a dual Athlon MP2000 system. >>

It wouldn't matter what Drives you had... Ripping is what is using your CPU so much, not the drives...

I did some research a while back on IDE vs. SCSI CD Burners and Drives and found out that IDE is Much more capable in reading and writing copy protection than SCSI. So if you're into backing up your copy-writed CD's, you want to look into IDE drives.

I've both IDE and SCSI in my computers at home and the IDE drives work as good or better than the SCSI's do. I wouldn't get too concerned about the issue when dealing with CD & DVD drives...

Hard drives, now that's another issue. IDE doesn't hold a candle to SCSI in that area.. SCSI is definately KING of the hill.

I honestly think Mobo makers put those IDE connectors on thier boards for use to hook our CD drives up to, and they give us PCI slots to put our SCSI cards in.

.02

 

[WalkingDead]

I have both the SCSI Pioneer 10X and SCSI Toshiba 10X DVD-Rom drive as well as a SCSI Creative DVD-RAM drive.

The Pioneer is very fast and cool looking slot-load but it's noisy and doesn't work with CloneCD. The Toshiba is not as fast but it is quiet and works great with CloneCD. Both of those SCSI DVD drive read and rip DVD at true 10X and the typical CPU usage is around 10% or less.

The Creative DVD-RAM on the other hand isn't good for anything. It's slow reading CD, DVD, DVD-Ram and very slow write for DVD-Ram.

 

[Bobbyeyes]

WalkingDead
>
It's slow reading CD, DVD, DVD-Ram and slow write for DVD-Ram.
>
thanks for that response..

is that a Creative issue, or is it the nature of the animal(still too young)
can it copy accurately a dvd factory movie?

 

[WalkingDead]

The DVD-Ram format been around for almost 5 years now. It's not compairable with the other DVD formats and it will not work on any desktop DVD player. That means it only works on DVD-Ram drives. Another problem is that each DVD-Ram disk costs $25-35 for the 5.2 gig version.