Fast Food locations closing down rather than pay employees more

[BoberFett]

That word.. I think you don't know what it means.

Don't look at me, I didn't hijack the term.

 

[bshole]

Don't look at me, I didn't hijack the term.

Bober you so funny.............



.... but looks aren't everything!

 

[Zebo]

Anyone believes Carls problems are because of minimum wage is a complete fool when In and Out are all over Cali trouncing Carls dick into the dirt and paying kids $12-$15 an hour doing it.

Carls problems are Carls since all play by same rules.

 

[who?]

A few years ago McDs had a chef working on their product line. When the reporter doing the story tried a plain beef patty he was impressed. Apparently they sucker people in by selling food that is really delicious.

 

[Victorian Gray]

A few years ago McDs had a chef working on their product line. When the reporter doing the story tried a plain beef patty he was impressed. Apparently they sucker people in by selling food that is really delicious.

Actually it's more through tricks like this

 

[Zorkorist]

Anyone believes Carls problems are because of minimum wage is a complete fool when In and Out are all over Cali trouncing Carls dick into the dirt and paying kids $12-$15 an hour doing it.

Carls problems are Carls since all play by same rules.

All do not play by the same rules any more.

Government is run amok.

There is no telling what advantages In and Out Burger has.

-John

 

[Chiropteran]

Actually it's more through tricks like this

Honestly, Five Guys hamburgers look horrible. But nobody cares one bit, because they taste delicious.

I'm not a big fan of McDonald's food, but I don't think there is really anything wrong with how it looks.

Nobody should care what food from a fast food or short order place looks like. If you want pretty food with colorful garnishes you can go to a $100 per person fancy place.

 

[who?]

Chiropteran is right. In order for them to be this successful for this long they have to have lots of repeat business and you only get that if the customers love your products. The pictures really don't make much difference anymore.

 

[Zorkorist]

In spite of Minimum Wage laws.

Other businesses are not so lucky.

-John

 

[Victorian Gray]

Honestly, Five Guys hamburgers look horrible. But nobody cares one bit, because they taste delicious.

I'm not a big fan of McDonald's food, but I don't think there is really anything wrong with how it looks.

Nobody should care what food from a fast food or short order place looks like. If you want pretty food with colorful garnishes you can go to a $100 per person fancy place.

Advertising, it works. <shrug>

 

[Victorian Gray]

Chiropteran is right. In order for them to be this successful for this long they have to have lots of repeat business and you only get that if the customers love your products. The pictures really don't make much difference anymore.

Advertising, it works. It also helps if you design your food to be addictive (controversial but evidence is mounting)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2707143.stm

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2013/aug/20/food-addiction-exist-fat-sugar

 

[werepossum]

A few years ago McDs had a chef working on their product line. When the reporter doing the story tried a plain beef patty he was impressed. Apparently they sucker people in by selling food that is really delicious.

Those bastards!

Actually it's more through tricks like this

You're really arguing that people buy burgers over and over because the advertising is so much better than the real product they are consuming?

Really?

 

[cabri]

Saw an ad for the McD triple burger.

Yesterday, I ordered one, not impressed. :thumbsdown:

I suspect that the patty used in the ads either are colored/seared (ie. not cooked) or they are not the actual size patty that is purchased.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Those bastards!


You're really arguing that people buy burgers over and over because the advertising is so much better than the real product they are consuming?

Really?

No.

Are you arguing that advertising has absolutely nothing to do with why people are choosing the burgers (or whatever else) that they do?

American companies spend around $170 billion a year on advertising in the United States alone. Do you think that they might be spending that kind of money because it works?

http://www.emarketer.com/Article/US-Total-Media-Ad-Spend-Inches-Up-Pushed-by-Digital/1010154

 

[werepossum]

No.

Are you arguing that advertising has absolutely nothing to do with why people are choosing the burgers (or whatever else) that they do?

American companies spend around $170 billion a year on advertising in the United States alone. Do you think that they might be spending that kind of money because it works?

http://www.emarketer.com/Article/US-Total-Media-Ad-Spend-Inches-Up-Pushed-by-Digital/1010154

Oh, advertising definitely works to remind people of your existence and let them know what you are offering, but the end product has to stand on its own. McDonald's flourishes because they offer food which a very large number of people find tasty, reasonably priced and convenient. If people did not find McDonald's food to be tasty, reasonably priced and convenient, advertising would merely remind them how much they dislike McDonald's food.

 

[Engineer]

Why pay employees when you can sell more using tablets at the tables?

http://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...ablet-ordering-at-all-its-restaurants/372836/

Again, just like getting rid of manufacturing...works great until you run out of customers or the customers that you have run out of money, or more lately credit. Will the prices of the food go down now?

LOL...not a chance.

 

[OutHouse]

pictures really don't make much difference anymore.

lol fail.

 

[OutHouse]

our field labor is illegal aliens being paid under the table for sub minimum wage, .

do you even know what field workers get paid?

 

[OutHouse]

Hershey has ONE factory in Mexico and that one has been there for 40 years:

one? try again, Hershey has more than ONE plant in Mexico.


For U.S. makers of chocolate, low wages are the main draw, said No? Lecona, director of Mexico's National Association of Makers of Chocolate, Candy and Related Products.

Workers in Mexico's processed food industry earn an average of $2.70 an hour, according to the National Institute of Statistics, Geography and Data Processing. At Nestle's factory in Toluca, a skilled machinery operator earns 220 pesos a day, about $15.70, said Maria Luis Ochoa, secretary of the local Chocolate Workers Union. The same worker in Hershey, Pa., earns $19 to $25 an hour, Bomberger said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=6867472

 

[Engineer]

one? try again, Hershey has more than ONE plant in Mexico.


For U.S. makers of chocolate, low wages are the main draw, said No? Lecona, director of Mexico's National Association of Makers of Chocolate, Candy and Related Products.

Workers in Mexico's processed food industry earn an average of $2.70 an hour, according to the National Institute of Statistics, Geography and Data Processing. At Nestle's factory in Toluca, a skilled machinery operator earns 220 pesos a day, about $15.70, said Maria Luis Ochoa, secretary of the local Chocolate Workers Union. The same worker in Hershey, Pa., earns $19 to $25 an hour, Bomberger said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/IndustryInfo/story?id=6867472

I might have mis-stated when I said "ONE", however, there is only one listing for Hershey factories in Mexico. There are many more US listings.

Also not that the listing for Mexico states that Hershey makes chocolate for Mexico at that plant (those plants).

 

[Oldgamer]

5-31-2014

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fast-food-ceo-minimum-wage-172542952.html


Fast food CEO: Minimum wage hikes closing locations



CKE Restaurants' roots began in California roughly seven decades ago, but you won't see the parent company of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's expanding there much anymore.


In part it's because "the minimum wage is so high so it's harder to come up with profitable business models," Puzder said in an interview. The state's minimum wage is set to rise to $9 in July, making it among the nation's highest, and $10 by January 2016.


In cities in other states where the minimum wage has gone up considerably, Puzder said "franchisees are closing locations" after riding out lease expirations.

I remember Carl's Jr used to be in Texas and they didn't do so well. I believe they closed down almost all locations in Texas and went to some other states if I remember correctly. In fact they had a hard time being successful in some other states as well. By the way CA is not where the nations highest min wage is now. More than several states have raised their min wage, one of them was at the 15. dollar mark (I think it was Seattle).

I don't think the min wage is what is causing them to close down. Restaurants, especially chain food restaurants don't always do very well, especially competing with other brands like Mc D's or Taco Bell. I feel pretty confident that the CEO made this remark as more of a dig and political statement than it being the real truth to why they are closing. I bet if you did a little digging on line you would find out that isn't the real reason they are closing down in CA.

 

[trenchfoot]

Damn, between raising the minimum wage and the horrors that Obamacare is unleashing on our fast food outlets.....why, I'll wager that every single fast food restaurant in the USA is going to shut down any day now. /s