Fast and Furious director to take reins of Star Trek 3

[CZroe]

Khan's motivation was revenge, pure and simple, no matter the cost. Chang's wasn't. AFAIK Chang's motivation was to ensure that the Klingon Empire did not make peace with the Federation, but ideally he'd like to have it out with Kirk (because Klingons like to do that sort of thing, warrior to warrior, blah de blah de blah) as well.

If all Chang cared about was having a crack at Kirk, then the whole plot line wouldn't have happened in the first place. Chang would have showed up with the prototype Bird of Prey before the Chancellor's ship turned up, uncloaked, thrown down the gauntlet and a taunt or two, hope that Kirk rises to the bait, if not fire a few torpedoes at him then cloak and rip him a new one before Kirk thinks of modifying a torpedo to look for gaseous anomalies.

Of course there would have been no reason to do that because Chang's motivation wasn't revenge!

So, the two antagonists are alike because...? They both quoted stuff? Does that also mean Picard in First Contact was just like Khan because he quoted Moby Dick?

I guess you could say that they both made it personal even if it is a completely different level.

 

[Ichinisan]

I don't know... I think a Star Trek directed by Tim Burton would be.. not good.

Michael Bay would be worse than J.J. No question.

 

[zerocool84]

I'll watch it regardless because its Star Trek, but man are the F & F movies embarrassing, including the new ones. Vin Diesel and Paul Walker certainly don't help.

If someone tells me they like those movies, and then says oh and the new ones are even better, I automatically assume they are an idiot.

Well they both got fairly good reviews so yea you're obviously in the minority.

Fast Five 77% Critics
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fast_five/

Fast 6 68% Critics
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fast_and_furious_6/

 

[VulgarDisplay]

The problem with the newest star trek movies is that they were better star wars movies than star trek movies.

I have faith that the Star Wars reboot is going to be much better than the prequels, but nothing will ever top Empire Strikes Back.

 

[Railgun]

How much money did the Twilight movies make? Same thing. Abrams Trek was not Star Trek, it was a bastardized action movie with a flimsy as hell plot and a Trek skin.

And now it looks like it'll somehow get ever worse.

Blame the writers then for that one.

However, for example, no matter how financially successful someone is in making porn movies, I doubt you're ever going to consider them to be an accomplished director

There are many awful film sequels out there, outnumbering the good ones by probably 100-1, but the reason why they are made is because they make money.

True enough.

But if people bash the story, is that really the fault of the director? If the quality of acting was crap, then sure, the director is to blame, or even casting, but JJ doesn't have the writing credit for these...

But...to each their own.

 

[Ichinisan]

Blame the writers then for that one.



True enough.

But if people bash the story, is that really the fault of the director? If the quality of acting was crap, then sure, the director is to blame, or even casting, but JJ doesn't have the writing credit for these...

But...to each their own.

You realize that J.J. And Damon Lindelof are like inseparable best buddies, right? It *is* JJ's fault for bringing in his buddy to every project, no matter how many writing failures there are.

Prometheus: That non-JJ project should have been the last time Lindeloff would ever work on a revered sci-fi franchise.

 

[ControlD]

Prometheus: That non-JJ project should have been the last time Lindeloff would ever work on a revered sci-fi franchise.

That franchise was ruined well before Prometheus came around.