Fast and Furious Afghanistan style

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rudder

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If this turns out to be verifiable and true... I can't imagine and of you can sit here and support obama. And do not excuse obama because of what the U.S. did in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation in the 1980's. There is no excuse for this. This is fast and furious X 100.

http://nypost.com/2014/06/08/how-the-taliban-got-their-hands-on-modern-us-missiles/

So not only did the Taliban get some key people back... now the taliban can do more damage to the 9,800 U.S. troops that will remain in Afghanistan through 2015.
 

fskimospy

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If this turns out to be verifiable and true... I can't imagine and of you can sit here and support obama. And do not excuse obama because of what the U.S. did in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation in the 1980's. There is no excuse for this. This is fast and furious X 100.

http://nypost.com/2014/06/08/how-the-taliban-got-their-hands-on-modern-us-missiles/

So not only did the Taliban get some key people back... now the taliban can do more damage to the 9,800 U.S. troops that will remain in Afghanistan through 2015.

I don't know how you could possibly read that article and draw any connection between the two. The idea that some of the arms supplied to people to overthrow Gaddhafi might have gotten loose for other purposes is not particularly surprising.

This is a big yawn.

EDIT: Oh, and considering the author let's just say that it is highly unlikely he is giving an honest and/or accurate depiction of what happened.
 

waggy

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hmm interesting. i wonder if there will be more info from not so biased papers
 

IronWing

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There was a point during the Iraq War when the US was supplying arms and training to the Sunnis (Sunni Awakening), the Shiites (government of Iraq), and the Kurds while also lamenting sectarian violence. The US arming active enemies is nothing new nor surprising. It's amazing that anyone serves more than one tour when they figure out that the bad guys are are feeding from the same bowl as the good guys.
 

unokitty

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Of course, Raytheon makes money no matter who uses the Stinger that they manufacturer.

Of course, the politicians and Lobbyists get money from Raytheon. (A little less than 9 million dollars last year.)

Of course, as two time Medal of Honor recipient Smedley D. Butler observed War is a Racket
"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."
Uno
Sentry Dog Handler
US Army 69-71
 

Jhhnn

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Rank speculation presented as fact. Totally unsurprising.

More mindless Benghazi!
 

Nebor

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This coincides with numerous Air Force reports of modern SAM encounters over Afghanistan.
 

werepossum

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There was a point during the Iraq War when the US was supplying arms and training to the Sunnis (Sunni Awakening), the Shiites (government of Iraq), and the Kurds while also lamenting sectarian violence. The US arming active enemies is nothing new nor surprising. It's amazing that anyone serves more than one tour when they figure out that the bad guys are are feeding from the same bowl as the good guys.
This isn't quite that. This is the US arming the not-quite-so-bad guys and the arms returning to the really bad guys because they share the most important thing in their world - their religion.

I used to have a buddy who served with the Qataris in the first Gulf War who reported them as enthusiastically pro-American. I wonder if his experience was non-typical, or if the Qataris have since changed, or if this is simply on a level above or parallel to field grade military Qataris. Either way, can't say I'm terribly surprised. This is what happens when we intercede in a battle between a rat and a snake. However, unless and until we embrace isolationism again, we have to try to influence the world to be more in line with our interests.
 

Nebor

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Like in most middle eastern Armys, officers are exclusively members of the Royal family and\or elite class of their nation. Of course they love America. They probably own property here.
 
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