Fantasy Football Trade

[VoteQuimby]

I traded Javon Walker & Julius Jones for Shaun Alexander. I'm hoping Shaun will come back and be better than JJ. Roy and Marvin are my starting WRs anyway. For now I can use Ahman or Foster until Shaun comes back.

My Teams roster
John Kitna
Marvin Harrison
Roy Williams
LaDanian Tomlinson(stud muffin)
Tony Gonzalez
DeShaun Foster
Brett Favre
Matt Hasselbeck
Todd Heap
Joe Horn
Ahman Green
Lee Evans
Shaun Alexander
Michael Turner

Robbie Gould K

Denver D
Minnesota D

 

[tfinch2]

Are you serious?

 

[VoteQuimby]

yes

 

[49erinnc]

I'm really wary of Alexander's health at this point. They keep delaying his return and the injury continues to be worse than expected. If he's back in a couple weeks, then yes, it was a good move but right now, it's just a too much of a wait and see situation.

However, because you have LT, you can afford to gamble on Alexander. LT is gonna net more points than many duo RB's. You also have two stud receivers in Harrison/Williams so despite having a good season, Walker can be dangled.

Basically, it was a move that didn't really hurt you but could help you a ton down the road if Alexander gets healthy.

 

[SirChadwick]

I don't think you came out on top. I'd never take a chance on a trade like that b/c there is always a possibility that Sean will come back weaker than before or irritate the healing injury further. JJ is not a top notch RB, but he's put up solid numbers. Javon Walker is also a great player. I don't think it balances out... but I wish you the best. One thing I never bet on is rookies and banged up stars.

 

[PoPPeR]

i think it also depends on your current situation, standings wise and the depth of other teams in your league. If you're at a point where you're middle of the pack, then this move might make or break you. If you're holding onto a comfortable lead in first place, then this might not have been the best idea. If you're not in the playoff hunt, then you didn't really have much choice and this could work out great.

Overall, I don't think I would have done the trade, but then again I did draft Alexander and Lamont Jordan 1-2 so what do I know

 

[VoteQuimby]

I'm currently on top in my league at 7-1.

The next few weeks I have weaker teams so I'm hoping Shaun will be back and help me gain an edge in the playoffs.

JJ is usually good for 10pts every week but so is Foster or Ahman.

Walker just had a big game but usually hes only good for 10pts. I did sacrifice depth in WRs to get 2 stud RBs. We'll see hopefully Shaun comes back strong. Worst case Shaun sucks and I have to play Foster or Ahman. I'm only screwed if Roy or Marvin gets hurt. *knocks on wood*

 

[vi edit]

That's a seriously stacked team. You drafted well.

 

[VoteQuimby]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
That's a seriously stacked team. You drafted well.

Foster, Joe Horn, Tony G, Denver D, Ahman, and my kicker were all picked up on free agents

 

[vi edit]

Gonzo was on waiver? And so was Green?

Your league owners are idiots.

 

[mrizvi66]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Gonzo was on waiver? And so was Green?

Your league owners are idiots.

i concur...

 

[VoteQuimby]

After Trent Green went down Tong G was sucking for 4 wks. His owner already had Colston and Winslow. So he dropped him to make room. I was lucky enough to pick him up because Heapster had a bye.

Green was also under preforming earlier in the season and had trouble with injuries. His owner was struggling bad because his #1 pick (Shaun) got hurt. We was trying to wheel and deal but screwed up.

 

[SirChadwick]

Dude you already have a dream team. You have no need for Alexander at all. Wow, what a bunch of idiots!!! You should have played for $.

 

[hpkeeper]

Due to what your roster looks like... the mere fact that you have LT on your team has to keep you in most games with the way he's been playing the past 3 or 4 weeks. You'd better hope that Roy Williams and/or Marvin Harrison don't eat turf and end up on the IR for the remainder of the season because Joe Horn isn't putting up the kind of numbers those other two are.

In my opinion you were better off with Javon Walker and Julius Jones.

Right now Denver has just discovered the talent Walker posesses and Jones is doing alright...

you just traded away two players who were producing and putting up decent numbers, for a player that you don't know for sure is even going be fully recovered when he actually comes back much less produce like Jones and Walker are doing right now. If nothing else, by keeping Jones and Walker on your roster, you're preventing other teams from reaping the benefits of their points... meaning that if they're on your bench scoring points, they're not on someone elses starting roster scoring points against you.

You didn't need Shaun Alexander to get your team to where it is... which I'm assuming is a fairly decent position in your league... I don't think this move improves your team, but if you weren't playing Jones and Walker to begin with, then it doesn't hurt your team either... this move without a doubt does nothing but improve the team you traded to immediately and you have no clue how it's going to play out when Alexander actually plays.

 

[VoteQuimby]

Originally posted by: SirChadwick
Dude you already have a dream team. You have no need for Alexander at all. Wow, what a bunch of idiots!!! You should have played for $.

lol

Well there are only 8 teams in my league so theres more talent to go around. Right now the standings look like 7-1, 6-2, 6-2, and two teams are at 4-4. The rest (3-5, 2-6, 0-8) don't really have a chance. I know I'll probably make the playoffs but I could have a bad week and lose in the playoffs.

 

[j00fek]

you got ownd on that trade. forget about winning this yr

 

[VoteQuimby]

Originally posted by: hpkeeper
Due to what your roster looks like... the mere fact that you have LT on your team has to keep you in most games with the way he's been playing the past 3 or 4 weeks. You'd better hope that Roy Williams and/or Marvin Harrison don't eat turf and end up on the IR for the remainder of the season because Joe Horn isn't putting up the kind of numbers those other two are.

In my opinion you were better off with Javon Walker and Julius Jones.

Right now Denver has just discovered the talent Walker posesses and Jones is doing alright...

you just traded away two players who were producing and putting up decent numbers, for a player that you don't know for sure is even going be fully recovered when he actually comes back. You didn't need Shaun Alexander to get your team to where it is... which I'm assuming is a fairly decent position in your league... I don't think this move improves your team, but if you weren't playing Jones and Walker to begin with, then it doesn't hurt your team either.

I was starting Jones every week but he hasn't been putting up decent points. Mike Barber takes most of the Cowboys rushing TDs so Jones only gets yds. I can achieve the same points Jones was putting up with Foster or Ahman.

I agree though that if Marvin or Roy goes down I'm in trouble.

I made the gamble that Shaun will come back and put me over the top to win the whole thing.

 

[Spooner]

8 teams is stupid.... putting too much talent at each position

12 or 14 teams works the best to keep things spread out

 

[VoteQuimby]

Originally posted by: Spooner
8 teams is stupid.... putting too much talent at each position

12 or 14 teams works the best to keep things spread out

I agree 12-14 teams would make things more interesting.

 

[hpkeeper]

Originally posted by: VoteQuimby

Originally posted by: hpkeeper
Due to what your roster looks like... the mere fact that you have LT on your team has to keep you in most games with the way he's been playing the past 3 or 4 weeks. You'd better hope that Roy Williams and/or Marvin Harrison don't eat turf and end up on the IR for the remainder of the season because Joe Horn isn't putting up the kind of numbers those other two are.

In my opinion you were better off with Javon Walker and Julius Jones.

Right now Denver has just discovered the talent Walker posesses and Jones is doing alright...

you just traded away two players who were producing and putting up decent numbers, for a player that you don't know for sure is even going be fully recovered when he actually comes back. You didn't need Shaun Alexander to get your team to where it is... which I'm assuming is a fairly decent position in your league... I don't think this move improves your team, but if you weren't playing Jones and Walker to begin with, then it doesn't hurt your team either.

I was starting Jones every week but he hasn't been putting up decent points. Mike Barber takes most of the Cowboys rushing TDs so Jones only gets yds. I can achieve the same points Jones was putting up with Foster or Ahman.

I agree though that if Marvin or Roy goes down I'm in trouble.

I made the gamble that Shaun will come back and put me over the top to win the whole thing.

I had to make an edit, you have to break this trade down a little into the numbers aspect: you traded away to players that are scoring points, for one who isn't. You just traded away immediate points to that guy, who will probably be scoring points with those players for at least another couple of weeks if not the rest of the season, for a guy that will probably return and score a decent amount of points for the remainder of the season. But the second Seattle clinches a playoff slot you can bet that they're going to park his ass on the bench to save him. At which point he's no good to you, since the playoffs of your league are taking place the last few weeks of the season Walker and Jones will probably still be playing at that point. I've never seen WR's resting at the end of the season, and Dallas will still be competing for a playoff spot at that point in the season... they won't bench jones.

If you look at it, you just traded 7(x2) weeks of production for about another 4.

 

[vi edit]

WR's can definitely get benched come playoff time.

Harrison saw a fraction of snaps he normally does the last couple games of the regular season last year.

 

[49erinnc]

Originally posted by: j00fek
you got ownd on that trade. forget about winning this yr

Disagree 100%. People who are sitting pretty this far into the season and who have depth, can afford to gamble on deals that may pay off in the playoffs. Had he not had LT/Green and Harrison/Williams, then I agree that it was a bad move. But with his depth, he can certainly afford to take a chance on Alexander. When you're record is that good, you have to occasionally make moves that won't benefit you now but could pay big dividends when it counts.

If Alexander doesn't pan out, his only true loss is Walker and that only hurts if Harrison/Williams end up injured. But if Alexander comes back strong, then he probably just put himself in position to run the table in the playoffs and bring home the bacon.

Playing conservative isn't always a good thing in fantasy football. I like the move and think it will prove to be a great one in weeks 13-16.

 

[hpkeeper]

Originally posted by: 49erinnc

Originally posted by: j00fek
you got ownd on that trade. forget about winning this yr

Disagree 100%. People who are sitting pretty this far into the season and who have depth, can afford to gamble on deals that may pay off in the playoffs. Had he not had LT/Green and Harrison/Williams, then I agree that it was a bad move. But with his depth, he can certainly afford to take a chance on Alexander. When you're record is that good, you have to occasionally make moves that won't benefit you now but could pay big dividends when it counts.

If Alexander doesn't pan out, his only true loss is Walker and that only hurts if Harrison/Williams end up injured. But if Alexander comes back strong, then he probably just put himself in position to run the table in the playoffs and bring home the bacon.

Playing conservative isn't always a good thing in fantasy football. I like the move and think it will prove to be a great one in weeks 13-16.

Yeah... but weeks 13-16 alexander is going to be on the bench if Seattle scores a playoff spot. As is LT (BTW... I have LT in two leagues and I immediately handcuffed Turner to him so good job on that). Sure there is some platooning in Dallas with Jones and Barber, but Barber is a 3rd down back... he's getting 8-10 carries per game and he's making the most of them, I'm no Dallas fan but I like Jones' chances of getting in the end zone off 20+ carries a game vs. Alexander... who isn't getting any touches at all... injured or benched come week 15. Who takes his spot when he hits the bench again? Ahman Green? ?? Green had a big day two weeks ago and everyone is thinking he's going to be better than ever... whatever... at least you can count on about 80+ yards and maybe a score from Jones week to week, you can never tell with Green.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: VoteQuimby

Originally posted by: vi_edit
That's a seriously stacked team. You drafted well.

Foster, Joe Horn, Tony G, Denver D, Ahman, and my kicker were all picked up on free agents

congrats on winning against retards