Fans raged over Wired's iPhone bash, exposed shortcomings

[ivan2]

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/...ry-apple-fans-den.html

can't say I didn't see this coming.

 

[effowe]

I own and love my iPhone, but the Wired article brought up some good points. They are years ahead of us with certain cell phone aspects, and things they care about just aren't on the iPhone. It has a shitty camera, no MMS, no tv tuner (who knew this was popular..?) and it's bulky for the features it does offer. Apple zealots think the company can do no wrong, I know and accept the shortfalls of the iPhone because it does so many other things so much better. To each their own, I guess.

 

[mooseracing]

I found it hilarious. I was slightly ticked off at work when they bought 10 of them without involving me, as now the Iphones put about triple the load on our Exchange server than a MS or Palm phone.

And now I also get to support them, so as we keep getting white screens of death, I have to go to the hell put called the Apple Store.

 

[Deeko]

Well, uh, its all true. Even the iPhone 3G curiously lacks features available on every other smartphone on the market - and its a huge improvement feature-wise over the original iPhone, which was essentially a 2002 smartphone with a touch screen.

It obviously still has a huge mass-market appeal, but if its true that the Japanese value features over novelty, then yea....it makes perfect sense for the iPhone to bomb there.

 

[mugs]

American Apple haters care entirely too much about a couple of Japanese guys being pissed about being misquoted in an article about the iPhone's popularity in Japan.

Can't say I didn't see this coming.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Well, uh, its all true. Even the iPhone 3G curiously lacks features available on every other smartphone on the market - and its a huge improvement feature-wise over the original iPhone, which was essentially a 2002 smartphone with a touch screen.

It obviously still has a huge mass-market appeal, but if its true that the Japanese value features over novelty, then yea....it makes perfect sense for the iPhone to bomb there.

Um, other than 3G and GPS, what does the 3G offer that the 2G doesn't?

 

[LordMorpheus]

Originally posted by: mugs
American Apple haters care entirely too much about a couple of Japanese guys being pissed about being misquoted in an article about the iPhone's popularity in Japan.

Can't say I didn't see this coming.

This just in: fanboys care about things that aren't important!

 

[effowe]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Deeko
Well, uh, its all true. Even the iPhone 3G curiously lacks features available on every other smartphone on the market - and its a huge improvement feature-wise over the original iPhone, which was essentially a 2002 smartphone with a touch screen.

It obviously still has a huge mass-market appeal, but if its true that the Japanese value features over novelty, then yea....it makes perfect sense for the iPhone to bomb there.

Um, other than 3G and GPS, what does the 3G offer that the 2G doesn't?

Nothing, firmware updates keep both phones updated with the latest features.

 

[Phokus]

nerd rage!

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Deeko
Well, uh, its all true. Even the iPhone 3G curiously lacks features available on every other smartphone on the market - and its a huge improvement feature-wise over the original iPhone, which was essentially a 2002 smartphone with a touch screen.

It obviously still has a huge mass-market appeal, but if its true that the Japanese value features over novelty, then yea....it makes perfect sense for the iPhone to bomb there.

Um, other than 3G and GPS, what does the 3G offer that the 2G doesn't?

Well for starters those are fairly standard features on high-end phones and have been for years. The other things that were added, notably Exchange support, may have been added to the original via software upgrades, but that doesn't change the fact that when it came out the iPhone was largely useless as a smartphone - and yet still sold for $500.

 

[Aikouka]

I would post the article for those unable to read at work, but my iPhone does not let me copy and paste .

 

[GasX]

enraged?

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Well, uh, its all true. Even the iPhone 3G curiously lacks features available on every other smartphone on the market - and its a huge improvement feature-wise over the original iPhone, which was essentially a 2002 smartphone with a touch screen.

It obviously still has a huge mass-market appeal, but if its true that the Japanese value features over novelty, then yea....it makes perfect sense for the iPhone to bomb there.

This.

Originally posted by: mugs
American Apple haters care entirely too much about a couple of Japanese guys being pissed about being misquoted in an article about the iPhone's popularity in Japan.

Can't say I didn't see this coming.

I have an iphone and it's not great. I don't hate it, but I don't love it.

Certainly I can't understand how picture messaging is that difficult and why the hell I can't create a group and send them a text.

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
I would post the article for those unable to read at work, but my iPhone does not let me copy and paste .

Well then just take a photo of the article and text it to all your friends.

Oh wait.

 

[MotF Bane]

lol fanboys

 

[Kelvrick]

I only have one thing to say, and that is picture messaging. Suck it, iphone.

 

[torpid]

There are some good points about features. If the iPhone had some of the latest features in addition to the other stuff it does well that others don't, it would be a truly killer phone. Personally, I prefer the things the iPhone does well, because those are how I want to use it. But only a fool would dispute the notion that it is curiously pathetic in certain other ways.

It does offer a pretty good YouTube player, though. Very few TV networks are even offering decent content, so this may just be a difference in markets unlike some of the other features that are lacking.

Originally posted by: thepd7
Certainly I can't understand how picture messaging is that difficult and why the hell I can't create a group and send them a text.

I for one am very glad for this. I hate group texts. They annoy the crap out of me.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: effowe
I own and love my iPhone, but the Wired article brought up some good points. They are years ahead of us with certain cell phone aspects, and things they care about just aren't on the iPhone. It has a shitty camera, no MMS, no tv tuner (who knew this was popular..?) and it's bulky for the features it does offer. Apple zealots think the company can do no wrong, I know and accept the shortfalls of the iPhone because it does so many other things so much better. To each their own, I guess.

Haha, even my cheapo Pearl from Sprint added MMS with the latest update.

 

[Raduque]

I have an iPhone. I don't call OR text on it. I check my email, browse the web, and watch Youtube. That's about all it's good for.

Oh, and portable tower defense games.

 

[ric1287]

The iPhone is missing some things, but compared to the other 10 "smartphones" i've had, it blows them out of the water in everything that matters to me (browser, media, apps)

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: torpid
I for one am very glad for this. I hate group texts. They annoy the crap out of me.

:thumbsup: The asshole who had my phone number before me has a lot of asshole friends who send group texts. I think it's a good indicator of the quality of your friendship when you text someone to wish them a merry Christmas only to find out that they haven't had that phone number for months and never bothered to tell you.

Also, when I text you back to tell you that you have the wrong number, I don't need you to text me back and tell me who you were looking for. If I knew Mike, I'd have given you his number.

Also, Mike needs to pay his damn bills, I'm tired of getting calls from debt collectors.

Also, HSBC is a bunch of assholes for repeatedly calling me and telling me to wait for the next available CSR to talk about Mike's debts. You called me, assholes. I don't hold for you.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: thepd7
Certainly I can't understand how picture messaging is that difficult and why the hell I can't create a group and send them a text.

I for one am very glad for this. I hate group texts. They annoy the crap out of me.

Group texts are very convenient for certain things.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: thepd7
Certainly I can't understand how picture messaging is that difficult and why the hell I can't create a group and send them a text.

I for one am very glad for this. I hate group texts. They annoy the crap out of me.

Group texts are very convenient for certain things.

such as annoying people.

 

[Kaido]

I love my iPhone.

People simply need to realize that Apple operates by the Apple 99% Rule, which says that Apple will give you 99% of the features you want and then completely screw up the other 1%. For example:

1. The iPhone: Superb tech toy - iPod, easy Email & Contacts, lots of fun apps. No MMS, Cut & Paste, blah blah blah. I can't even send or receive a crappy cameraphone pic, like every other phone on the market.

2. The 13" Macbook: Yay, upgraded with a unibody design! 9400m graphics to play 1080p and run a 30" screen! LED backlighting! No Firewire port! Wait, what? Yup, no Firewire port for your audio equipment, your DV camcorder, your scanner, your backup hard drive. Apple has pushed Firewire since Day 1, now it's gone.

3. The new Apple wired keyboard: Apple just updated their wired keyboard...no more numberpad. Their newest product is Numbers 09, part of the iWork 09 suite...you'd think you would want a numberpad with a spreadsheet-style application...

I could go on, but I think that illustrates the Apple 99% Rule. You saw it here first

 

[mrSHEiK124]

*hugs BlackJack II*

I can't wait for the TouchPro2/Fuze2 to come out, nice lookin' phone.