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Confusednewbie1552

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Hey,, i'm getting this case: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-119-035&depa=1

I'm just wondering if the fans it has are quiet, if not what fans should I get? Also is it ok to have two intake fans and two exhaust fans? I thought i read somewhere you should have more exhaust fans than intake???

Edit: Also are they're like any aluminium opticcal drive things that'll match with this case? And what's the db of the fans that come with the case?
 
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bob4432

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i would suggest looking on the coolermaster site for the specs, but usually 80mm fans turn ~3000rpm, not too bad.

i have read reports about how many intake/exhaust and all say different things. personally i think you will be fine with a decent hsf on your cpu/video card. just make sure it doesn't get dust clogged and blow it out when dust builds up.
 
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bob4432

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Originally posted by: Confusednewbie1552
It's got a filter for the intake fans so I think it would be ok about the dust.
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just make sure that filter doesn't get clogged :)
 
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WackyDan

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Lots of folks have different opinions on Fans vs noise/heat.

best bet is to install with what seems the minimun config for cooling +1 fan for a bit of redundancy.

Then check your temps, if they are within spec, then leave it be, if it's a bit toasty, add another fan and measure again.

It's pointless to install as many fans as the case can hold for the following reasons.

1. It's noisy.
2. Fans consume power
3. Fans produce heat via the power they consume and minor friction-though it's about moving air. Irony is the more fans you install the less the potential payoff in cooling.

Take a serious look at that casse when you get it and determine the logical placement of fans for best airflow.

Don't go crazy. :)
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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Originally posted by: Sonic587
Here's the general idea of arflow for most comps...

http://img63.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img63&image=11-119-035-09.jpg

You should have more exhaust fans than intake when you count in your PSU.

As for drives, do you mean a black colored frontplate? If so, what are you looking at? DVDRW? CDRW?
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Ok so this case would be good? If you count the Power Supply and assume it has one exhaust fan then the case will have 3 exhaust fans and 2 intake fans, that's okay rgiht? Also lol wow, did you actually go to Microsoft Paint and drew all of those? Lol wow thanks!!!!
 
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Scott66

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Another option is larger fans as they move more air at lower speeds and lower noise. I have a 120mm in the rear and it made a difference in noise. not including the PSU and CPU I have 1-120 in the back one 92 and two barrel fans built in to my vantec vortex hard drive coolers in the front and the airflow is great. Remember to keep the wires neat and tucked out of the way. This will have a greater effect on airflow and doesn't make any noise.
 
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Frew

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Im getting same case. I just googled it and found some reviews. They all praise the case.
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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Originally posted by: Scott66
Another option is larger fans as they move more air at lower speeds and lower noise. I have a 120mm in the rear and it made a difference in noise. not including the PSU and CPU I have 1-120 in the back one 92 and two barrel fans built in to my vantec vortex hard drive coolers in the front and the airflow is great. Remember to keep the wires neat and tucked out of the way. This will have a greater effect on airflow and doesn't make any noise.
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I couldn't find a case that had between 3-4 external 5.25 " bays 1 120 mm fan in the front, 1 120 mm fan on the top, and one 120 mm fan on the back. If you can find one thank you!
 
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Boztech

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Typically cases come with mediocre fans at best that run 1800-2200rpm and they aren't loud but they also don't have the best airflow.

As fan replacements I would recommend Panaflo L1As for absolute quiet or Thermaltake Smartfans for the best of both worlds.

As far as case airflow goes, if you want to be absolutely nitpicky, you always want more air coming in than going out. This causes positive pressure inside the case which in turns causes the warm air inside the case to escape through any vent holes it can find.

I honestly don't know what these guys are talking about as far as having more exhaust fans. Your case has to have a constant supply of cool ambient air from the outside. More exhaust fans would cause negative air pressure in the case trapping warm air in the "dead" areas and recirculating it. It's the same principle to putting a fan on a heatsink blowing IN, not OUT. It pushes the hot air out as well as pulling the cool air on.

But this is all very nitpicky mind you, the differences you are going to see on case temps between these different setups may be 2-3 degrees celsius, and won't affect performance much to the end user.
 
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Sonic587

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Originally posted by: Boztech
Typically cases come with mediocre fans at best that run 1800-2200rpm and they aren't loud but they also don't have the best airflow.

As fan replacements I would recommend Panaflo L1As for absolute quiet or Thermaltake Smartfans for the best of both worlds.

As far as case airflow goes, if you want to be absolutely nitpicky, you always want more air coming in than going out. This causes positive pressure inside the case which in turns causes the warm air inside the case to escape through any vent holes it can find.

I honestly don't know what these guys are talking about as far as having more exhaust fans. Your case has to have a constant supply of cool ambient air from the outside. More exhaust fans would cause negative air pressure in the case trapping warm air in the "dead" areas and recirculating it. It's the same principle to putting a fan on a heatsink blowing IN, not OUT. It pushes the hot air out as well as pulling the cool air on.

But this is all very nitpicky mind you, the differences you are going to see on case temps between these different setups may be 2-3 degrees celsius, and won't affect performance much to the end user.
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That's all true, but maybe you should take a look at the case pics more closely. I see 2 80MM fans in the lower front, one 80MM on the back, and one 80MM blowhole. Of course, count on the PSU exhausting as well. The best thing he could do is put 2 fans in the bottom front for intake, 2(3 when you count a bottom PSU fan) on the top/back for exhaust. That may create a negitive air pressure inside, but he can't turn around the blowhole/back fans to make them intake. That would push all the rising hot air back into the case.
 
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Frew

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Originally posted on Coolermaster Website

Q: What are the specifications of the pre-installed case fans in the Wave Master (or the Praetorian?)
A: Fan Dimension: 80x80x25 mm
Fan Speed: 2100 rpm
Fan Airflow: 26.79 CFM
Fan Air Pressure: 1.91 mmH20
Fan Life Expectance: 30,000 hrs
Bearing Type: Sleeve Bearing
Voltage Rating: 12V
Input Current: 0.12 A (0.14A max.)
Input Power: 1.44W
Noise Level: 23.0 dBA
Connector: 3-pin or 4-pin
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If you were intrested.
 
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Confusednewbie1552

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Hmm those seem quiet. I'll buy the parateorian and if it's to loud buy a panfalo or the artic I mentioned up there. Still which one of those ontop is more quiet.
 
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