Family Friend Does Weed And Is Now Schizophrenic

UnatcoAgent

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I was given the news last night by my mother that a friend of ours' brother recently became very ill on account of a joint. 20 years old, perfectly healthy, after a lacross game they smoked up.

Apparently whoever sold them the stuff (or someone higher than them) had mixed it with a type of horse tranquilizer for some reason, I believe to add some sort of kick to the stuff.

Anyway over the next few days he became increasingly odd, he would call our friend at work and tell him when he was going to 'go to his room'.

Friend got the call the other day "Blood, BLOOD MIKE HELP" (his name's mike btw)

His brother had become extremely paranoid, schizophrenic, and believed for some reason that the Hells Angels were going to kill him. It had just so happened that a plumber was over to fix something with the drains and was wearing a harley davidson shirt.

When he saw the shirt Mike's brother cut his thumb off, in hopes of showing the "gang member" in his head, that they had already got back at him for whatever dillusion he was believing and he would not harm his family.

Thats when Mike got the call at work. His brother's currently in the hospital for observation for the next 15 days, 5 days and no improvment.

very sad
 

theNEOone

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ummm, wierd. but i seriously doubt that horse tranquilizer caused the guy to become schizophrenic.
 

theNEOone

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
He may have been already predisposed to schizophrenia.



yah, maybe the mix of drugs triggered the onset for some reason.

wierd, either way.
 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
He may have been already predisposed to schizophrenia.



yah, maybe the mix of drugs triggered the onset for some reason.

wierd, either way.

Definately, you really never know if you will light up and be the same aftewards.
 

stormbv

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I agree, I doubt smoking weed would make someone instantly schizophrenic. This will be in the next Anti-drug commercials: Smoking weed can turn you into a paranoid schizophrenic.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: Magnum375
Originally posted by: KingNothing
...so the problem was the horse tranquilizer, not the weed perhaps?

Yes that is what I was getting at.

*looks at title* doesn't look like it
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: theNEOone
ummm, wierd. but i seriously doubt that horse tranquilizer caused the guy to become schizophrenic.

Horse Tranquilizers such as PCP or Cat tranqs such as Ketamine could cause irratic behavior, but it needed to be in a larger dose than what the poster indicated. I mean how much was sprinkled on the fvcking joint? Sure it wasn't a freaking joint made of PCP? Are you sure he wasn't shooting up K or PCP? I mean those are fairly harsh side-affects for a small amount sprinkled on a joint. There is at least some good news out of all of this. He wasn't in Deebo's pigeon coop clucking like a bird.
 

stormbv

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: theNEOone
ummm, wierd. but i seriously doubt that horse tranquilizer caused the guy to become schizophrenic.

Horse Tranquilizers such as PCP or Cat tranqs such as Ketamine could cause irratic behavior, but it needed to be in a larger dose than what the poster indicated. I mean how much was sprinkled on the fvcking joint? Sure it wasn't a freaking joint made of PCP? Are you sure he wasn't shooting up K or PCP? I mean those are fairly harsh side-affects for a small amount sprinkled on a joint. There is at least some good news out of all of this. He wasn't in Deebo's pigeon coop clucking like a bird.

lol...only his momma could get him to come out! :p
 

KingNothing

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Originally posted by: Magnum375
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Magnum375
Originally posted by: KingNothing
...so the problem was the horse tranquilizer, not the weed perhaps?

Yes that is what I was getting at.

*looks at title* doesn't look like it

whatever its the danger of smoking up altogether

Make up your mind. "Smoking marijuana is bad" and "Horse tranquilizer is dangerous" are two different points.
 

thomsbrain

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nearly all people who become schizophrenic become that way in exactly the age range your friend is in. Males are far more likely to develop it than females. And there are lots of people with schizophrenia out there. Your friend's joint did not give him schizophrenia. however, it is possible that it accelerated the onset of the schizophrenia he was already doomed to get (it's genetic). don't worry though, there are exellent drugs for this. just get the poor guy into the doctor and they'll get him stable again. he'll have to be diligent about his medication from now on though, and no more joints either.
 

Anubis

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it wasent the weed. it was whatever was in it. Sounds liek PCP or special K. and depending if teh joint was laced with either of thoes. they could have that kind of effect. even a good dose shouldent last for much more then 24hours. after he came off teh drug he shoudl have been fine. obviously sence its 5 days later and hes still messed it triggere some allready existing condition that just wont go away
 

EvilYoda

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man, that's some freaky sh*t...and now, he'll be thumbless for the rest of his life? ouch.
 

sohdahere

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It might have been the weed, it might not have been.
different people react differently to different things..
one kid I know had weird bumps and rashes all over his body after he smoked
weed for the first (and last) time...

but its bound to screw you up in some way in the long run if not right away...
 

xuanman

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whoa, what happened to your family friend reminds me of my friend who tried to eat his own hand when he had a bad acid trip
 

Shockwave

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Its a good thing we can be naive enough to blame our mentel shortcomings and damages to smoking 1 fvgcking joint.

What next?

I'M FAT! I drove by McDonalds! I'm sueing!

rolleye.gif
 

UnatcoAgent

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Its a good thing we can be naive enough to blame our mentel shortcomings and damages to smoking 1 fvgcking joint.

What next?

I'M FAT! I drove by McDonalds! I'm sueing!

rolleye.gif

Ok so disregard your comment moron
 

reitz

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Originally posted by: Magnum375
Originally posted by: KingNothing
...so the problem was the horse tranquilizer, not the weed perhaps?

Yes that is what I was getting at.
Weed laced with horse tranquilizer? I don't think so. For the drug-ignorant among us, a short lesson:

Pot is never laced without the buyer being told about it. Sure, we've all heard the stories of shady dealers spraying their crop with raid or other assorted nasties, but those stories are always the same (it happened to my best friend's cousin's former roommate) and there is nothing a dealer has to gain from poisoning his product. It's an urban legend.

Pot can be laced with a few chemicals (LSD is not one of them; the heat from combustion destroys it), most notably crack or PCP. No one will be sold laced pot unaware, though, since it's worth far more to the dealer to sell it as marijuanna laced with [insert your favorite mind-altering substance here]. No one is going to waste his time adding chemicals to dirt weed to pass it off as something better, since the cost of the drug(s) added will far exceed the price difference between dirt weed and kind bud. It just doesn't happen.


As for this "horse tranquilizer", I'm guessing that it was probably ketamine (which contrary to popular belief is not actually a horse tranquilizer). Neither ketamine nor marijuanna is going to 'make someone schizophrenic.' Some powerful hallucinogens can trigger latent mental illness in susceptible individuals, but the cause is much more likely to be the psychological effects of the trip, rather than the physiological effects of the chemical itself. Research suggests that the odds are those individuals likely would have developed symptoms of whatever mental illness at some point anyway, though the jury is still out on that.

The lesson here is don't ingest mind-altering substances if you have a family history of severe mental illness or are currently going through emotional or psychological turmoil. (seems like common sense to me) As always, know your body and know any chemicals you wish to put into it.

For straight information on just about any substance, check out Erowid.