False flag to provoke war with Iran

[dualsmp]

So should I be looking at the Bush administration if a nuke goes off somewhere in the United States to kick off a war with Iran or should I be looking at Al Kayduh?

Youtube of Hersh interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slgBrbNXrbs

To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal to Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians and Shoot At Them.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/...proposal-for-iran-war/

Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh ? a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker ? revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President?s office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.

In Hersh?s most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The ?meeting took place in the Vice-President?s office. ?The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,?? according to one of Hersh?s sources.

During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney?s office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:

HERSH: There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don?t we build ? we in our shipyard ? build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.

Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can?t have Americans killing Americans. That?s the kind of ? that?s the level of stuff we?re talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.

Hersh argued that one of the things the Bush administration learned during the encounter in the Strait of Hormuz was that, ?if you get the right incident, the American public will support? it.

?Look, is it high school? Yeah,? Hersh said. ?Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We?re playing, you know, who?s the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran.?

 

[yllus]

Secretary Cheney may be a hawk amongst hawks without equal, but I think in cases like this a lot of subtle detail is left out. I imagine that the discussion did veer into a "false flag" operation, but never seriously. It's just one of those covering all the possibilities things you throw out there.

 

[ProfJohn]

What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

 

[nageov3t]

we're not going to war with Iran.

 

[Throckmorton]

Strange thing is the boat thing happened earlier this year... And Iran said they weren't their boats

 

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: loki8481
we're not going to war with Iran.

you just made dick cry

 

[jpeyton]

Well it worked great with 9/11 and Iraq. Maybe Dick and Bush have one more war in store before they hit the road?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

 

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken



Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too

are you drunk or just high on george bush's cock cheese?

LOLOL

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

You and Projo were willing to invade Iraq on less evidence than Sy Hersh has presented Re; Iran.

I laugh at you

 

[babylon5]

LoL what does Al Gore have to do with this topic? And no, he never won a Pulitzer Prize.

 

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

You and Projo were willing to invade Iraq on less evidence than Sy Hersh has presented Re; Iran.

I laugh at you

dude the guy doesnt even know the difference between a nobel peace prize or a pulitzer prize.

dont laugh at the retards, its not nice

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Hersh may have the one award, but since then his predications have been perfect failures.

But of course, since he exposes such plans, they are then cancelled.

Up to this point, he has been completely wrong on Iran - maybe he is self serving?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken



Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too

are you drunk or just high on george bush's cock cheese?

LOLOL

Tell me more about cock cheese. You sound like an authority on the subject.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

You and Projo were willing to invade Iraq on less evidence than Sy Hersh has presented Re; Iran.

I laugh at you

dude the guy doesnt even know the difference between a nobel peace prize or a pulitzer prize.

dont laugh at the retards, its not nice

Actually I don't pay much attention to accolades, honorariums, or appeals to authority as some in here do. They just don't awe me as they seem to do with some of you in here. Nobel prize winners. Pulitzer prize winners. Who gives a flying fuck? It's all turned into politcal garbage anyway.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but how the heck do you know what we are or aren't going to do?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

You and Projo were willing to invade Iraq on less evidence than Sy Hersh has presented Re; Iran.

I laugh at you

He who laughs last, laughs best, as the old saying goes. I'm laughing at people like Hersh and you who have allowed their partisan rhetoric to get the best of them and are too ignorant to recognize it. At least you don't indulge in the complete and total public idiocy that Hersh does. Likely though that's because nobody knows, or cares, who the fuck you are.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but how the heck do you know what we are or aren't going to do?

It's this little thing called common sense. How long did it take for us to stage for the invasion of Iraq? How long did all the international wrangling go on before we even got to the staging point?

Bush doesn't have enough time, or clout, left in his term to invade Iran. Sorry, but it's NOT going to happen, at least under Bush. Do you really think Obama is going to do it? Because he is going to be the next president of this country.

 

[lupi]

Guy sounds like an ATP&N writer.

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but how the heck do you know what we are or aren't going to do?

It's this little thing called common sense. How long did it take for us to stage for the invasion of Iraq? How long did all the international wrangling go on before we even got to the staging point?

Bush doesn't have enough time, or clout, left in his term to invade Iran. Sorry, but it's NOT going to happen, at least under Bush. Do you really think Obama is going to do it? Because he is going to be the next president of this country.

Bush or Cheney have never displayed any common sense

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: dawp

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but how the heck do you know what we are or aren't going to do?

It's this little thing called common sense. How long did it take for us to stage for the invasion of Iraq? How long did all the international wrangling go on before we even got to the staging point?

Bush doesn't have enough time, or clout, left in his term to invade Iran. Sorry, but it's NOT going to happen, at least under Bush. Do you really think Obama is going to do it? Because he is going to be the next president of this country.

Bush or Cheney have never displayed any common sense

Neither have their opponents. That's the big problem today.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Uhh.. a Pulitzer means next to jack shit as it's nothing more than a prize handed out by the libs at Columbia University, plus it was almost 40 years ago. Whoopdedoo :roll: He's really just a hack now...a washed up has-been trying to get into the light one last time.

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

You and Projo were willing to invade Iraq on less evidence than Sy Hersh has presented Re; Iran.

I laugh at you

He who laughs last, laughs best, as the old saying goes. I'm laughing at people like Hersh and you who have allowed their partisan rhetoric to get the best of them and are too ignorant to recognize it. At least you don't indulge in the complete and total public idiocy that Hersh does. Likely though that's because nobody knows, or cares, who the fuck you are.

Again, didn't you buy into flimsier evidence to support the debacle in Iraq?

So, in addition to being hypocritical, you are stupid

Apparently Sy Hersh has the magical ability to read books from the future. That's how he knows so much. Don't you wish you had similar magical powers.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: Stoneburner

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
What is Hersh's source for this?

I am sure someone privy to this type of information is dying to tell someone as anti-administration as Hersh all the gritty details.

BTW Hersh is a joke. Didn't he claim we were going to attack Iran 2 or 3 years ago???
If Hersh was posting on P&N he'd probably end up sounding a lot like Dave.

Hersh is a pulitzer prize winner and is one of the preeminent investigative journalists in the world. So no, he's not a joke.

He said that we wanted to attack Iran, and that we had troops on the ground in Iran prepping targets. Interestingly enough, while the administration denied plans to attack Iran (of course they did) they have never denied having troops on the ground in there.

Al Gore is a Pulitzer Prize winner too. Seems they don't mean that much these days.

Hersh's bland, skin & bone servings of innuendo and un-named sources is getting pretty old. As PJ said, he's been yammering about Iran for 3 years now and we're no closer to invading them now than we were then.

You and Projo were willing to invade Iraq on less evidence than Sy Hersh has presented Re; Iran.

I laugh at you

He who laughs last, laughs best, as the old saying goes. I'm laughing at people like Hersh and you who have allowed their partisan rhetoric to get the best of them and are too ignorant to recognize it. At least you don't indulge in the complete and total public idiocy that Hersh does. Likely though that's because nobody knows, or cares, who the fuck you are.

Again, didn't you buy into flimsier evidence to support the debacle in Iraq?

So, in addition to being hypocritical, you are stupid

Apparently Sy Hersh has the magical ability to read books from the future. That's how he knows so much. Don't you wish you had similar magical powers.

My personal convictions for going into Iraq had nothing to do with WMDs. I've explained it before in here but the partisan, simpletons like ou that have to couch everything in BDS stereotypes in order to comprehend just wouldn't understand. So in addition to you being a partisan hack, you have no comprehension skills and not only does that make you stupid, it makes you ignorant.