False accusation of statutory rape?

xxAgentCowxx

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OK I have this problem thats on my mind and i have no clue what to do.

I was seeing this girl for almost a month, but she lives an hour drive away so I only saw her twice. Im 18, shes 16. Needless to say, I feared for my freedom and didn't have any sort of sexual anything with her. I just broke up with her to be with someone else (who's 20, yay!) and I tried to be as nice as possible (didn't tell her about the other girl) but she flipped out on me anyways... we arent talking anymore, but somewhere in the back of my mind I have this intense fear that she'll report me for statutory rape and lie and say we had sex.

Is this possible? Is there anything that would protect this sort of thing from happening to me? It would only be my word against hers, the two times I saw her, she snuck out.

Any serious help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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xxAgentCowxx

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Originally posted by: fumbduck
Just be honest, you nailed her.

Go live in France with Polanski, pedo.

heh. actually i was sleeping with my then-ex, now-girlfriend (the 20yr old) the whole time, really couldnt have cared less
 

fumbduck

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Originally posted by: xxAgentCowxx
Originally posted by: fumbduck
Just be honest, you nailed her.

Go live in France with Polanski, pedo.

heh. actually i was sleeping with my then-ex, now-girlfriend (the 20yr old) the whole time, really couldnt have cared less

back with the ex, but in the mean time cheat/tampering with some undeveloped poontang, you the man! :confused:
 

xxAgentCowxx

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Originally posted by: fumbduck
Originally posted by: xxAgentCowxx
Originally posted by: fumbduck
Just be honest, you nailed her.

Go live in France with Polanski, pedo.

heh. actually i was sleeping with my then-ex, now-girlfriend (the 20yr old) the whole time, really couldnt have cared less

back with the ex, but in the mean time cheat/tampering with some undeveloped poontang, you the man! :confused:

i state again, i wouldnt have hit it with a 10 foot pole
 

acemcmac

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You'll be fine. Did some quick digging for you and if the law is this lax where I live (PA), how bad can it be where you live?

Title 18 § 3122.1. Statutory sexual assault

Except as provided in section 3121 (relating to rape), a person commits a felony of the
second degree when that person engages in sexual intercourse with a complainant under
the age of 16 years and that person is four or more years older than the complainant and
the complainant and the person are not married to each other.

If I understand that right, a young 18 yearold should have no problem nailing some 14 yearolds :disgust:
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
You'll be fine. Did some quick digging for you and if the law is this lax where I live (PA), how bad can it be where you live?

Title 18 § 3122.1. Statutory sexual assault

Except as provided in section 3121 (relating to rape), a person commits a felony of the
second degree when that person engages in sexual intercourse with a complainant under
the age of 16 years and that person is four or more years older than the complainant and
the complainant and the person are not married to each other.

If I understand that right, a young 18 yearold should have no problem nailing some 14 yearolds :disgust:

Nope. The law states that the girl must be at least 16 years old, AND that the male must be four or more years older (i.e. 20+). 14 is instant statutory.
 

xxAgentCowxx

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261.5 (b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or
three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

CA Penal Code... how bad is a misdemeanor?
 

thomsbrain

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it is possible (assuming the law means you did something wrong) for them to finger you. i broke off a relationship for exactly this reason. she wasn't likely to do it then, but when if she decided she hated me? or what if her mom decided she hated me? busted!
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: Whisper
Originally posted by: acemcmac
You'll be fine. Did some quick digging for you and if the law is this lax where I live (PA), how bad can it be where you live?

Title 18 § 3122.1. Statutory sexual assault

Except as provided in section 3121 (relating to rape), a person commits a felony of the
second degree when that person engages in sexual intercourse with a complainant under
the age of 16 years and that person is four or more years older than the complainant and
the complainant and the person are not married to each other.

If I understand that right, a young 18 yearold should have no problem nailing some 14 yearolds :disgust:

Nope. The law states that the girl must be at least 16 years old, AND that the male must be four or more years older (i.e. 20+). 14 is instant statutory.

Negative. I see:

IF("sexual intercourse with a complainant under the age of 16" AND "that person is four or more years older than the complainant" AND "Not married")
cout<<"Person comits felony";
ELSE
cout<<"Play ball";

If they didn't mean it like that, I think they'd have worded it another way.

Originally posted by: xxAgentCowxx
261.5 (b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or
three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

CA Penal Code... how bad is a misdemeanor?

I don't think you want to know... Do you know what a "registered sex offender" is?
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
Originally posted by: Whisper
Originally posted by: acemcmac
You'll be fine. Did some quick digging for you and if the law is this lax where I live (PA), how bad can it be where you live?

Title 18 § 3122.1. Statutory sexual assault

Except as provided in section 3121 (relating to rape), a person commits a felony of the
second degree when that person engages in sexual intercourse with a complainant under
the age of 16 years and that person is four or more years older than the complainant and
the complainant and the person are not married to each other.

If I understand that right, a young 18 yearold should have no problem nailing some 14 yearolds :disgust:

Nope. The law states that the girl must be at least 16 years old, AND that the male must be four or more years older (i.e. 20+). 14 is instant statutory.

Negative. I see:

IF("sexual intercourse with a complainant under the age of 16" AND "that person is four or more years older than the complainant" AND "Not married")
cout<<"Person comits felony";
ELSE
cout<<"Play ball";

If they didn't mean it like that, I think they'd have worded it another way.

Originally posted by: xxAgentCowxx
261.5 (b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or
three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

CA Penal Code... how bad is a misdemeanor?

I don't think you want to know... Do you know what a "registered sex offender" is?


Oops, I did misread the original law, now didn't I. So yeah, apparently 15 and 19 is cool, or 14 and 18. Hrmm...

Edit: and misdemeanor isn't as bad as a felony, but it's still a crime. And just as the other poster mentioned, you'd be put on the registered sex offender list.

Then again, I believe the burden of proof would fall on her, and she would have to somehow show beyond a reasonable doubt that the two of you had sexual intercourse. Unless she went to a hospital fairly soon after the original incident, then it's not overly likely to happen. But anything's possible.
 

acemcmac

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Originally posted by: Whisper

Oops, I did misread the original law, now didn't I. So yeah, apparently 15 and 19 is cool, or 14 and 18. Hrmm...

I'm glad us compsci majors have a common way to communicate like that :beer:!

xxAgentCowxx: You've got better things to do than worry about some highschool h0e, right? :beer:
 

yukichigai

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You guys are forgetting a key word in there: "minor". A minor, according to Federal law anyway, is any person under the age of 21. Technically you are a minor as well. If she files a claim you can file one right back at her, because she engaged in an unlawful sex act with a minor. :p
 

xxAgentCowxx

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
You guys are forgetting a key word in there: "minor". A minor, according to Federal law anyway, is any person under the age of 21. Technically you are a minor as well. If she files a claim you can file one right back at her, because she engaged in an unlawful sex act with a minor. :p

CA law defines a minor as someone under 18
 

Joker81

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what are your laws in your state. In WA you can have sex with a 16 year old as long as you are within 30 months I Think.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
it is possible (assuming the law means you did something wrong) for them to finger you. i broke off a relationship for exactly this reason. she wasn't likely to do it then, but when if she decided she hated me? or what if her mom decided she hated me? busted!

Just remember, guys, if you and a female friend, or even just her or just you, are drunk together, make sure you're around other people you know and trust. All it takes is an accusation and you're screwed.
 

DeRusto

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Originally posted by: xxAgentCowxx
261.5 (b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or
three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

CA Penal Code... how bad is a misdemeanor?

this makes no sense to me..
 

yukichigai

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Can anybody quote the CA penal code that defines a minor as a person under 18 for the purposes of that statute?

Also, where does it specify what "unlawful sexual intercourse" is?
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
Can anybody quote the CA penal code that defines a minor as a person under 18 for the purposes of that statute?

Also, where does it specify what "unlawful sexual intercourse" is?
Ok here it is... IT's called "The Age of Consent"... Here's the CA Penal code , Chapter and Verse...
PENAL CODE
SECTION 261-269


261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual
intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the
perpetrator, if the person is a minor.

For the purposes of this section, a "minor" is a person
under the age of 18 years and an "adult" is a person
who is at least 18 years of age.

(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years
older or three years younger than the perpetrator, is
guilty of a misdemeanor.

(c) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is more than three years younger than
the perpetrator is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and
shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one
year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.
(d) Any person over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is under 16 years of age
is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and shall be punished
by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by
imprisonment in the state prison for two, three, or four years.
(e) (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, an
adult who engages in an act of sexual intercourse with a minor in
violation of this section may be liable for civil penalties in the
following amounts:
(A) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor less than two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000).
(B) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).
(C) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least three years younger than the adult is liable
for a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000).
(D) An adult over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under 16 years of age is
liable for a civil penalty not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars
($25,000).
(2) The district attorney may bring actions to recover civil
penalties pursuant to this subdivision. From the amounts collected
for each case, an amount equal to the costs of pursuing the action
shall be deposited with the treasurer of the county in which the
judgment was entered, and the remainder shall be deposited in the
Underage Pregnancy Prevention Fund, which is hereby created in the
State Treasury. Amounts deposited in the Underage Pregnancy
Prevention Fund may be used only for the purpose of preventing
underage pregnancy upon appropriation by the Legislature.



261.6. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289,
in which consent is at issue, "consent" shall be defined to mean
positive cooperation in act or attitude pursuant to an exercise of
free will. The person must act freely and voluntarily and have
knowledge of the nature of the act or transaction involved.
A current or previous dating or marital relationship shall not be
sufficient to constitute consent where consent is at issue in a
prosecution under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289.
Nothing in this section shall affect the admissibility of evidence
or the burden of proof on the issue of consent.



261.7. In prosecutions under Section 261, 262, 286, 288a, or 289,
in which consent is at issue, evidence that the victim suggested,
requested, or otherwise communicated to the defendant that the
defendant use a condom or other birth control device, without
additional evidence of consent, is not sufficient to constitute
consent.

Updates 04-2001:

From District Attorney (http://www.stanislaus-da.org/statutory_rape.htm)

What is Statutory Rape?
Statutory Rape is unlawful sexual intercourse with someone
under the age of 18.

What is Vertical Prosecution?
Vertical Prosecution means one prosecutor handling the
case from issuance to final disposition. Studies show that
when it comes to crimes of a personal and sexual nature one
attorney handling all aspects of the case, from charging
through sentencing, increases effectiveness in
understanding the dynamics of each particular case and the
needs of each victim.

Do WE PROSECUTE EVERY CASE?
No. We are evaluating each case independently to determine if
criminal charges are appropriate.

WHY SO MUCH ATTENTION TO STATUTORY RAPE?

California has the highest teen birth rate in the U.S.

Every 8 minutes, a teenager in California has a baby.

3 of 4 births to High School girls are fathered by adults.

Men over 25 account for twice as many teen births as boys under 18 years old.

The Average Age difference between the teen victim and the adult defendant in cases filed by the District
Attorney is 7years 9months.

Men over 20 are responsible for 5 times as many births among junior high school girls.

In California almost 70% of teen births are fathered by adult men.

On an average California day 76 teenage girls, 17 & younger, will give birth.

In Stanislaus County over 6% of teenage girls will give birth in any given year.

In 1993 1,572 births in California were to mothers 14 years or younger.

The rate of sexually transmitted disease among teenage girls is twice that of teenage boys.

This all translates into a tremendous drain in our welfare and medical resources statewide.

AFDC and Medi-Cal costs for 1 teen pregnancy, birth and 1st year support is $10,000.

Total costs for teen births to those 17 and younger in 1993 for California were $140 million.


 

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You're all forgetting that without proof her accusations will result in no successful prosecution. Rape isn't simply a he said/she said. A woman can accuse all day long, but without some meaningful evidence towards it a simple accusation doesn't result in a conviction (normally).
 

Ness

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
You're all forgetting that without proof her accusations will result in no successful prosecution. Rape isn't simply a he said/she said. A woman can accuse all day long, but without some meaningful evidence towards it a simple accusation doesn't result in a conviction (normally).

Yeah, otherwise I'd have skoorb locked up for touching me when I was 17 :(