Fallout 3 versus Fallout New Vegas, which should i play?

Phokus

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So i bought both games during the steam crack sale summer sale. I'm pretty sure i'll play only one of the games and trade the other. Which one should i play?
 

JujuFish

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If you're really only going to play one, play New Vegas. If you're going to play both, play 3 first.
 

AstroManLuca

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New Vegas is the better game if you're only going to play one. It has more and better weapons, a better story, it ties in much better with the old games, and a lot of little improvements you'd expect from a sequel.
 

Phokus

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Cool, thanks guys, i doubt i'll be able to play both since i bought so many games.
 

sandorski

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Both are great. I'd start with 3. Mainly because it will introduce you to the series in a more simplified form.
 

The_Golden_Man

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Play both. However, I think Fallout 3 is the better game. I found New Vegas to be somewhat boring, and not feeling the post-apocalyptic feeling I had in Fallout 3.

Also, make sure to at least get the Broken Steel DLC for Fallout 3. As it adds more story and increase the Level cap from 20 to 30. The game no longer ends when this package is installed.

If you bought GOTY, all DLC's will be there.
 

sandorski

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Play both. However, I think Fallout 3 is the better game. I found New Vegas to be somewhat boring, and not feeling the post-apocalyptic feeling I had in Fallout 3.

Also, make sure to at least get the Broken Steel DLC for Fallout 3. As it adds more story and increase the Level cap from 20 to 30. The game no longer ends when this package is installed.

If you bought GOTY, all DLC's will be there.

I agree, I preferred 3 as well.
 

shortylickens

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Both, in order.

F3 did a better job of painting a bleak, scary future. It also has an excellent main quest and some deliciously cheesy side quests.

New Vegas is a little more light hearted and never truly captured that dark, grim reality the franchise is famous for, even with all the violence and rape and shit.
But its got a good story line with 4 major endings, and did a nice job tying up loose ends with various factions and your companions.
Also crafting is MUCH improved, and they added in weapon mods which are pretty darn helpful. And more unique weapons & armor. Oh, and the add-ons are really good. Long story lines and tons of extra goodies.
 

sandorski

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Both, in order.

F3 did a better job of painting a bleak, scary future. It also has an excellent main quest and some deliciously cheesy side quests.

New Vegas is a little more light hearted and never truly captured that dark, grim reality the franchise is famous for, even with all the violence and rape and shit.
But its got a good story line with 4 major endings, and did a nice job tying up loose ends with various factions and your companions.
Also crafting is MUCH improved, and they added in weapon mods which are pretty darn helpful. And more unique weapons & armor. Oh, and the add-ons are really good. Long story lines and tons of extra goodies.

I didn't care for the Crafting, although I barely Crafted in 3 either. It is completely unnecessary and just clutters up the Inventory.
 

WojtekGee

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I started with New Vegas, and felt like I was regretting it.

I remember even in fallout 1 and 2, you started, and you were like.. yup the world is fucked.

In new vegas, you start walking around and it doesn't seem as grim as mentioned before (lots of infrastructure... a town right there when you start etc)

I'd play 3 first, then NV if I did it over again.

Don't ask whey I skipped 3 playing both 1 and 2.
 
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I don't get why people think New Vegas should still feel post apocalyptic like the war was a week ago. Its been what, over 200 years since the great war. Do you really think 200 years after the war, people will still be living in caves and mud huts?

Fallout was NEVER only dark and gritty. It was always a black humor type game with some genuinely funny moments. Dark and gritty? You've never played a fallout game. Hell, in Fallout 1, the first settlement you get to was a fairly thriving multicultural town with farmland, tons of crops and herds of cows, and well to do people. Who can forget the time where you wake up with a ballgag in your inventory after you lose to that mutant, or the first time you meet Harold. People who say that fallout has been dark and gritty have completely missed the point of the first 2 games.

Fallout 3 was not a fallout game. Fallout NV at the very least tried to be one.

If you really want a "Fallout" experience, play New Vegas. Fallout 3 was a decent game on its own. But it is extremely easy, and has a ton of extremely dumb mechanics. Its a prime example of how Bethesda manages to ruin the franchises it touches.
 
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Fallen Kell

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Play both. However, I think Fallout 3 is the better game. I found New Vegas to be somewhat boring, and not feeling the post-apocalyptic feeling I had in Fallout 3.

I have to agree with this. Fallout 3 felt MUCH more post-apocalyptic than New Vegas. There was simply too much civilization in New Vegas.... But that said, I think New Vegas was the better game by far. I guess it just depends on what you are looking for,.
 

shortylickens

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I didn't care for the Crafting, although I barely Crafted in 3 either. It is completely unnecessary and just clutters up the Inventory.

Wrong and wrong.

Its very necessary in Fallout 3 for the early game survival, when ammo is scarce and expensive. Theres a lot of junk that doesnt sell for much money and is better served doing massive damage from your junk gun.
Plus you get some nice effects like from the poison darts, and easy head kills from the rail spikes. Not to mention the powerful blast and long term damage from the nuka grenades. And the most powerful melee weapon in the game is only available by crafting.
Oh, and shooting junk DE-clutters your inventory, as does making one weapon from 4 or 5 items. Anything you dont use can be sold for decent money, sometimes better than the regular weapons you find on bodies.


:colbert:
 

shortylickens

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I don't get why people think New Vegas should still feel post apocalyptic like the war was a week ago. Its been what, over 200 years since the great war. Do you really think 200 years after the war, people will still be living in caves and mud huts?

Fallout was NEVER only dark and gritty. It was always a black humor type game with some genuinely funny moments. Hell, in Fallout 1, the first settlement you get to was a fairly thriving multicultural town with farmland, tons of crops and herds of cows, and well to do people. Who can forget the time where you wake up with a ballgag in your inventory after you lose to that mutant, or the first time you meet Harold. People who say that fallout has been dark and gritty have completely missed the point of the first 2 games.

Fallout 3 was not a fallout game. Fallout NV at the very least tried to be one.

If you really want a "Fallout" experience, play New Vegas. Fallout 3 was a decent game on its own. But it is extremely easy, and has a ton of extremely dumb mechanics. Its a prime example of how Bethesda manages to ruin the franchises it touches.

You didnt pay at all attention to the story. MOST of the population lived in Vaults. Its only when some (not all) of them started venturing out that society started to rebuild itself. Since a lot of your smarts was still locked up, it makes sense the leftovers wouldnt be able to completely rebuild in 200 years.

And New Vegas had tons of prosperous communities. Which showed the other side of things. It makes sense that DC would have been hit hardest by the attack and had the most difficulty recovering.
 

kyrax12

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Fallout 3 has a lot of civilizations too.

i.E: Megaton, Undercity, rivet city, brotherhood of steel city..etc,

Anyway, Fallout 3 is just a filler.
 

sandorski

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Wrong and wrong.

Its very necessary in Fallout 3 for the early game survival, when ammo is scarce and expensive. Theres a lot of junk that doesnt sell for much money and is better served doing massive damage from your junk gun.
Plus you get some nice effects like from the poison darts, and easy head kills from the rail spikes. Not to mention the powerful blast and long term damage from the nuka grenades. And the most powerful melee weapon in the game is only available by crafting.
Oh, and shooting junk DE-clutters your inventory, as does making one weapon from 4 or 5 items. Anything you dont use can be sold for decent money, sometimes better than the regular weapons you find on bodies.


:colbert:

Made one of those as well as the spike gun, but it wasn't necessary.
 
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Play Fallout 3. Then play New Vegas. You're going to want to play them both, and that's the order you'll wish you had. New Vegas improved on technical aspects that will be hard to go back from, but you won't miss them playing FO3 first. Plus I thought FO3 had the better atmosphere, which is made even better with this mod:
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/14946
 

Maximilian

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Fallout 3 is better but tbh you should get both, if you like one you will like the other :thumbsup:
 
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You didnt pay at all attention to the story. MOST of the population lived in Vaults. Its only when some (not all) of them started venturing out that society started to rebuild itself. Since a lot of your smarts was still locked up, it makes sense the leftovers wouldnt be able to completely rebuild in 200 years.

And New Vegas had tons of prosperous communities. Which showed the other side of things. It makes sense that DC would have been hit hardest by the attack and had the most difficulty recovering.

Yeah. You're obviously not playing Fallout. You forget about the GECK's? Vaults were opened way before the events of Fallout ever happened and the GECK's allowed the start of extremely thriving post war towns and civilizations.

To say that the fact that everybody should still be in mud huts when people had been rebuilding for decades, shows that people don't actually know anything about the fallout universe and simply think it is 10 years after nuclear war and everyone is dead or dying.

Also, the Nuclear War didn't exactly raze every single square inch of land. There were plenty of areas that remained perfectly safe where people could still live in pre war style communities.
 
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Bateluer

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I don't get why people think New Vegas should still feel post apocalyptic like the war was a week ago. Its been what, over 200 years since the great war. Do you really think 200 years after the war, people will still be living in caves and mud huts?

Fallout was NEVER only dark and gritty. It was always a black humor type game with some genuinely funny moments. Dark and gritty? You've never played a fallout game. Hell, in Fallout 1, the first settlement you get to was a fairly thriving multicultural town with farmland, tons of crops and herds of cows, and well to do people. Who can forget the time where you wake up with a ballgag in your inventory after you lose to that mutant, or the first time you meet Harold. People who say that fallout has been dark and gritty have completely missed the point of the first 2 games.

Fallout 3 was not a fallout game. Fallout NV at the very least tried to be one.

If you really want a "Fallout" experience, play New Vegas. Fallout 3 was a decent game on its own. But it is extremely easy, and has a ton of extremely dumb mechanics. Its a prime example of how Bethesda manages to ruin the franchises it touches.

^ Agreed.

New Vegas was a better Fallout game than FO3, but FO3 was still fun. If you could get it to work anyway.

New Vegas also takes place much closer to the NCR, which, if I remember my FO story, was one of the first organized post-war governments. Makes sense that there'd be more 'civilization' out there.
 

The_Golden_Man

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I also found that New Vegas felt very empty VS Fallout 3. New Vegas had several locations/buildings with no purpose. There was no quest, no story or nothing in many of these locations. That desert setting is not my kind of flavor.

In Fallout 3 there was a purpose/quest in every/at least almost every building/landmark.

I simply enjoyed Fallout 3 much more. However, the DLC's was meh. The only one I really felt was worth it, was Broken Steel.