"FAKE" footage of Palestinians wasn't fake, still Palestinian Journalists' Association has condemned CNN

glen

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Ananova :
CNN says fake footage claims are 'baseless and ridiculous'

CNN says accusations it faked footage of Palestinians celebrating the US terror attacks are baseless.

Palestinian journalists and officials reportedly claim the footage dates back to 1991, but was passed off as being current.

CNN says a Reuters camera crew filmed the celebrations in East Jerusalem hours after the hijackings.

It says the allegations stem from an email by a Brazilian student.

The Universad Estatal de Campinas-Brasil (Unicamp) says one of its students sent the email after apparently receiving information from a professor at another institution.

Marcio AV Carvalho later realised the claims were false and sent out a correction, says Unicamp.

A spokesman said: "The original message, however, was distributed all over the world, often with many distortions."

A CNN spokesman told Ananova: "CNN rejects as baseless and ridiculous an allegation being circulated by email and the internet claiming that CNN televised 10-year-old videotape to illustrate Palestinians celebrating in the wake of the horrific September 11 tragedies in the US.

"CNN applauds Unicamp for setting the record straight. The videotape in question was shot by a Reuters TV camera crew on September 11."

According to the Islamic Republic News Agency, the Palestinian Journalists' Association has condemned CNN for "journalistic treachery".

Story filed: 18:52 Wednesday 19th September 2001
 

Aelus

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They have every interest in denying it, even if it's baseless, some people will believe it, and remember it. And the people who don't believe it, will see that there are plenty of palestinians who are opposed to those celebrations.

everything is about PR, sadly.

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Russ

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<< They have every interest in denying it >>



Yep, an innocent accused usually does.

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<< Then the question arises: what's reality? :)

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to find the answer to that...watch the movie "The Matrix"
 

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<< Then the question arises: what's reality? :)

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Now that's a loaded question and I'm too tired to discuss existentialism. :)
 

glen

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<< Yep, an innocent accused usually does. >>


RUSS, who do you think is innocent?
 

Russ

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Glen,

I think CNN is innocent of faking footage. The allegation is just more garbage piled on to the growing heap created by the enemies of the United States.

Russ, NCNE
 

Balt

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I would just like to state that the number of people who jumped on the bandwagon of claiming the footage was fake should maybe look for a little thing called evidence next time.

Don't give me the "Well CNN should have provided evidence that it was real." BS. When given a choice between believing a media establishment that has been reliable for a number of years, and some small website seeking attention for itself, you should know who to trust.

OK, I'm done preaching.
 

Aelus

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might i point out that everyone has jumped on the bandwagen that bin laden is guilty, even though we haven't seen proof yet?

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glen

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The USA and the UK said they have credible evidence that he is the prime suspect.
 

Balt

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<<might i point out that everyone has jumped on the bandwagen that bin laden is guilty, even though we haven't seen proof yet?

Aelus >>


Irrelevant. bin Laden is a known terrorist and has committed multiple terrorist attacks in the past. As far as I know, CNN hasn't shown itself to be unreliable in the past (and least not to the extent that it fakes footage).
 

Aelus

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i meant last week, one or 2 days after it happened, everyone (including myself) was immediately certain it was bin laden, without conclusive evidence. People just jump on a bandwagon fast, as long as it fits their internal agenda.

After reading that MSNBC story, i can't say how happy i am they have conclusive evidence of bin ladens involvement (no sarcasm whatsoever), i hope this evidence has been presented to the afghani board, and i sincerely hope he'll be delivered to the USA, although i'm in fear his trial might not be 100% fair, due to the emotions of the jury...

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Russ

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<< although i'm in fear his trial might not be 100% fair, due to the emotions of the jury... >>



I'm sure that it will be more "fair" then that granted the 5000 people murdered in the attack.

Russ, NCNE

 

Aelus

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Yeah, but even the worst possible criminal (bin laden isn't probably not far on that listing) deserves a fair and honest trial, where the jury hasn't convicted him before he has been allowed to defend himself.

call me naieve, call me heartless, but the right for a fair trial is the base of a modern society, without it, we're nothing but barbarians.

Aelus
 

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<< Yeah, but even the worst possible criminal (bin laden isn't probably not far on that listing) deserves a fair and honest trial, where the jury hasn't convicted him before he has been allowed to defend himself.

call me naieve, call me heartless, but the right for a fair trial is the base of a modern society, without it, we're nothing but barbarians.

Aelus
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I agree with you.

-RSI
 

Balt

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Aelus,

It all depends on how you interpret it. I personally don't see this as a 'murder case.' I prefer to look at it as an act of war (yeah I know that's what everyone is screaming, but it is true in a sense). In war, you don't go onto the battlefield yelling "HEY YOU'RE UNDER ARREST, COME WITH US SO YOU CAN FACE TRIAL." That just doesn't work. The right to a fair trial is guaranteed to Americans, not foreign terrorists. That's not to say we shouldn't play by the rules (even though scum like these terrorists don't deserve it), but if the Taliban doesn't hand him over then they aren't playing by the rules, and we have to take him out one way or another.

I hope for a peaceful solution, but it seems highly unlikely. Even if the Taliban were to come to its senses and hand over bin Laden, that is not sufficient. We need bin Laden and all his pals with him, otherwise we've accomplished very little.
 

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Well, the fact that the big comittee of religious leaders in afghanistan hasn't been finalized yet because there's no consensus is a good thing imo, if there's more evidence found today, then it might turn the tide in favor of the pro-expelling group, and then it might be a peaceful ending. Although i'm wondering what would happen with the taliban then...

Aelus