Faith through terror!

[jonks]

Was checking out the Creation Museum website (for kicks) and saw a link to a child's primer on the bible called "How can I become a child of God?"

Here it is: http://www.answersingenesis.or...about/goodNewsKids.pdf

My fav included quote (coupled with picture of teary eyed toddler):
"God wanted people to love and obey Him. But Adam and Eve disobeyed a command from their Creator. Disobedience is called sin. Their sin separated them from a holy and perfect God. The punishment for sin is death."

Moral Kombat!

Other good ones:
"After the flood, God promised to never again destroy the whole world with water. But people continue to sin, so God will one day punish the world with fire."

God = the Avatar?

 

[skillyho]

Thanks for sharing.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Hasn't that always been the way of religion though? Fear of going to hell in the afterlife?

If everyone knew that they became nothing more than worm food when they die then what would be their incentive to lead a moral life?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hasn't that always been the way of religion though? Fear of going to hell in the afterlife?

If everyone knew that they became nothing more than worm food when they die then what would be their incentive to lead a moral life?

Personal benefit? Being moral should not hurt you, at least in the long run.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hasn't that always been the way of religion though? Fear of going to hell in the afterlife?

If everyone knew that they became nothing more than worm food when they die then what would be their incentive to lead a moral life?

Personal benefit? Being moral should not hurt you, at least in the long run.

It doesn't hurt me. I am a moral person, and I'm not religious. I was speaking for the masses in general.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: sirjonk
"After the flood, God promised to never again destroy the whole world with water. But people continue to sin, so God will one day punish the world with fire."

If that doesn't work, God is prepared to try Wind, Earth and Heart.

 

[Auggie]

Oh, here's a thread mocking religion. Awesome.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hasn't that always been the way of religion though? Fear of going to hell in the afterlife?

If everyone knew that they became nothing more than worm food when they die then what would be their incentive to lead a moral life?

Personal benefit? Being moral should not hurt you, at least in the long run.

Personal benefit without obvious reward does not motivate people.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Auggie
Oh, here's a thread mocking religion. Awesome.

Telling little kids that they are born sinners and therefore deserve to die is pretty mockworthy imo. The presentation on this thing is really strange. Bright colors, crying children, bible verses about death and destruction, but with a happy ending.

Oh, and I was born jewish so does that mean I only get to mock judaism? I forget the rules.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: sirjonk
"After the flood, God promised to never again destroy the whole world with water. But people continue to sin, so God will one day punish the world with fire."

If that doesn't work, God is prepared to try Wind, Earth and Heart.

He's already tried Earth, Wind, & Fire, but those guys are getting a bit old by now.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Hasn't that always been the way of religion though? Fear of going to hell in the afterlife?

If everyone knew that they became nothing more than worm food when they die then what would be their incentive to lead a moral life?

Carrot on a stick in the front, hot metal stick in the back.

 

[Xylitol]

yipee
yet another religion thread

I don't believe in making kids books in order to scare them / show the absolute truth, but religion in itself is fine

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Auggie
Oh, here's a thread mocking religion. Awesome.

Telling little kids that they are born sinners and therefore deserve to die is pretty mockworthy imo. The presentation on this thing is really strange. Bright colors, crying children, bible verses about death and destruction, but with a happy ending.

Oh, and I was born jewish so does that mean I only get to mock judaism? I forget the rules.

It answers questions kid ask about god all the time.


"Mom, why did God use the flood?"

"Mom, why are we not in eden anymore?"

"Mom, what happens when we die?"

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
yipee
yet another religion thread

Why do people keep making fun of GWB? Because he keeps giving them new material. It's the same principle here.

Originally posted by: RichardE

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?

Why stop now?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Auggie
Oh, here's a thread mocking religion. Awesome.

Telling little kids that they are born sinners and therefore deserve to die is pretty mockworthy imo. The presentation on this thing is really strange. Bright colors, crying children, bible verses about death and destruction, but with a happy ending.

Oh, and I was born jewish so does that mean I only get to mock judaism? I forget the rules.

I'm a mix of Jewish and Catholic, so I'll tackle the Judeochristian religions. We still need a Hindu, a Celt, a shaman and an ancient Greek (he can speak for the Romans since they just stole all theirs). The Buddhists are fine, cause they aren't bothering anyone, and I'm not touching the Muslims with a 70 foot pole (they're so hot-blooded).

I'll start. The Judeochristian religions are fraudulent! OK, next?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
yipee
yet another religion thread

Why do people keep making fun of GWB? Because he keeps giving them new material. It's the same principle here.

Originally posted by: RichardE

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?[/

Why stop now?

Good answer. Well thought out.

So as much as your own ignorance of other peoples beliefs is obvious, I ask again were they suppose to lie to them? People got tired of bullshit excuses like "Well, its Satans fault". Kids are no better, they are pretty smart when it comes to this shit, if you don't give them a straight answer they will know it. So when a kid asks were they suppose to lie to them?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy

Originally posted by: sirjonk
"After the flood, God promised to never again destroy the whole world with water. But people continue to sin, so God will one day punish the world with fire."

If that doesn't work, God is prepared to try Wind, Earth and Heart.

LOL!

excellent.

 

[tfcmasta97]

Where men having sex with men is homosexuality and sin

but men having sex with boys is Ayyyyy Okaaayy!

 

[Vehemence]

JESUS CHRIST that's scary!

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
yipee
yet another religion thread

Why do people keep making fun of GWB? Because he keeps giving them new material. It's the same principle here.

Originally posted by: RichardE

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?[/

Why stop now?

Good answer. Well thought out.

So as much as your own ignorance of other peoples beliefs is obvious, I ask again were they suppose to lie to them? People got tired of bullshit excuses like "Well, its Satans fault". Kids are no better, they are pretty smart when it comes to this shit, if you don't give them a straight answer they will know it. So when a kid asks were they suppose to lie to them?

I'm not sure how to answer this because your question "were they suppose [sic] to lie to them" implies that what they do tell them isn't lies.

This would be the true answers:

"Mom, why did God use the flood?"

Baby, god never killed everyone in the world with a flood.

"Mom, why are we not in eden anymore?"

Sweetie, there was no eden, that's just a creation myth. All cultures/religions have them.

"Mom, what happens when we die?"

I have no fucking clue sweetie, and anyone who tells you they do is trying to sell you something.

 

[buck]

I see this thread going places....

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
yipee
yet another religion thread

Why do people keep making fun of GWB? Because he keeps giving them new material. It's the same principle here.

Originally posted by: RichardE

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?[/

Why stop now?

Good answer. Well thought out.

So as much as your own ignorance of other peoples beliefs is obvious, I ask again were they suppose to lie to them? People got tired of bullshit excuses like "Well, its Satans fault". Kids are no better, they are pretty smart when it comes to this shit, if you don't give them a straight answer they will know it. So when a kid asks were they suppose to lie to them?

I'm not sure how to answer this because your question "were they suppose [sic] to lie to them" implies that what they do tell them isn't lies.

This would be the true answers:

"Mom, why did God use the flood?"

Baby, god never killed everyone in the world with a flood.

"Mom, why are we not in eden anymore?"

Sweetie, there was no eden, that's just a creation myth. All cultures/religions have them.

"Mom, what happens when we die?"

I have no fucking clue sweetie, and anyone who tells you they do is trying to sell you something.

Ah, so you were not trying to discuss the book at all and why it would be used, but just wanted to make a thread bashing religion and be a bigot. Got it. Glad to know :beer:

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
yipee
yet another religion thread

Why do people keep making fun of GWB? Because he keeps giving them new material. It's the same principle here.

Originally posted by: RichardE

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?[/

Why stop now?

Good answer. Well thought out.

So as much as your own ignorance of other peoples beliefs is obvious, I ask again were they suppose to lie to them? People got tired of bullshit excuses like "Well, its Satans fault". Kids are no better, they are pretty smart when it comes to this shit, if you don't give them a straight answer they will know it. So when a kid asks were they suppose to lie to them?

I'm not sure how to answer this because your question "were they suppose [sic] to lie to them" implies that what they do tell them isn't lies.

This would be the true answers:

"Mom, why did God use the flood?"

Baby, god never killed everyone in the world with a flood.

"Mom, why are we not in eden anymore?"

Sweetie, there was no eden, that's just a creation myth. All cultures/religions have them.

"Mom, what happens when we die?"

I have no fucking clue sweetie, and anyone who tells you they do is trying to sell you something.

Ah, so you were not trying to discuss the book at all and why it would be used, but just wanted to make a thread bashing religion and be a bigot. Got it. Glad to know :beer:

I think my OP states very clearly the intention of the post. The church uses scary imagery and propaganda to frighten young children into faith/obedience to god, click here for illustrated example. I think you're looking too deep.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
yipee
yet another religion thread

Why do people keep making fun of GWB? Because he keeps giving them new material. It's the same principle here.

Originally posted by: RichardE

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?[/

Why stop now?

Good answer. Well thought out.

So as much as your own ignorance of other peoples beliefs is obvious, I ask again were they suppose to lie to them? People got tired of bullshit excuses like "Well, its Satans fault". Kids are no better, they are pretty smart when it comes to this shit, if you don't give them a straight answer they will know it. So when a kid asks were they suppose to lie to them?

I have an idea....how about the REAL truth?

You could always tell them..."I don't know. I was raised to believe that God did it though".

That is a straight and truthful answer. Just telling any person that "God did it" as fact is in and of itself lying to him. Unless of course you (collective noun encompassing the authors of said BS) are the first and only person that can actually prove the existence of said god. Then you are certainly telling him/her the truth.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Xylitol
yipee
yet another religion thread

Why do people keep making fun of GWB? Because he keeps giving them new material. It's the same principle here.

Originally posted by: RichardE

It isn't a book you are going to up and give a kid to learn about religion without any background on the subject. Thats the same as using a porno to teach a kid about sex. The book is a good teaching tool for kids exposed to the religious stories. Were they suppose to lie to them?[/

Why stop now?

Good answer. Well thought out.

So as much as your own ignorance of other peoples beliefs is obvious, I ask again were they suppose to lie to them? People got tired of bullshit excuses like "Well, its Satans fault". Kids are no better, they are pretty smart when it comes to this shit, if you don't give them a straight answer they will know it. So when a kid asks were they suppose to lie to them?

I'm not sure how to answer this because your question "were they suppose [sic] to lie to them" implies that what they do tell them isn't lies.

This would be the true answers:

"Mom, why did God use the flood?"

Baby, god never killed everyone in the world with a flood.

"Mom, why are we not in eden anymore?"

Sweetie, there was no eden, that's just a creation myth. All cultures/religions have them.

"Mom, what happens when we die?"

I have no fucking clue sweetie, and anyone who tells you they do is trying to sell you something.

Ah, so you were not trying to discuss the book at all and why it would be used, but just wanted to make a thread bashing religion and be a bigot. Got it. Glad to know :beer:

I think my OP states very clearly the intention of the post. The church uses scary imagery and propaganda to frighten young children into faith/obedience to god, click here for illustrated example. I think you're looking too deep.

Actually your OP states nothing besides your view on what the book says.

Was checking out the Creation Museum website (for kicks) and saw a link to a child's primer on the bible called "How can I become a child of God?"

Here it is: http://www.answersingenesis.or...about/goodNewsKids.pdf

My fav included quote (coupled with picture of teary eyed toddler):
"God wanted people to love and obey Him. But Adam and Eve disobeyed a command from their Creator. Disobedience is called sin. Their sin separated them from a holy and perfect God. The punishment for sin is death."

Moral Kombat!

Other good ones:
"After the flood, God promised to never again destroy the whole world with water. But people continue to sin, so God will one day punish the world with fire."

God = the Avatar?

So than your only question I guess is god the avatar? That it than? The rest of your posts bring out your bigotry nature regarding religion. If you had clearly stated in the OP what the point of this thread was maybe they wouldn't, but all you wanted was a flamewar. Or maybe just a good old religious bash circle jerk?