FAD: May-09 mondobyte's doing the TOP-DAWG dance today!

[Silverthorne]

40 active members returned 923,384 points yesterday :thumbsup:

mondobyte leads the pack today with 189,977 points! Honourable mentions go to Rebel_Alliance (131,069 pts) and TA_GeoffS (72,849 pts).

NoBozos was our highest climber jumping 61 spots!

Today's Milestone Makers
mondobyte crossed 265M molecules
BadThad crossed 4M points
[TA]Unforgiven crossed 2 yrs CPU time
Milestones are every 1M pts, 1M molecules, 1 yr CPU time

Please join me in welcoming our newest members:
(none)

... and wishing all the best to our departed members:
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Welcome all and thanks for crunching with us!

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[JTWill]

Good Morning Team ANANDTECH😀

 

[BadThad]

Thanks Silver! 🙂

 

[Freewolf]

Thanks for the stats.
Morning Paul
It seems one way to increase your cpu rating and your points is to switch to linux from windows. From what I've read linux boxes get higher cpu rating than window boxes.
Now if I could just learn linux.

 

[BadThad]

Originally posted by: Freewolf
Thanks for the stats.
Morning Paul
It seems one way to increase your cpu rating and your points is to switch to linux from windows. From what I've read linux boxes get higher cpu rating than window boxes.
Now if I could just learn linux.

I'd surprized if using Linux would produce a significantly higher CPU rating (points per hour) than a Windows OS. What kind of difference are you talking about?

 

[Freewolf]

Originally posted by: BadThad

Originally posted by: Freewolf
Thanks for the stats.
Morning Paul
It seems one way to increase your cpu rating and your points is to switch to linux from windows. From what I've read linux boxes get higher cpu rating than window boxes.
Now if I could just learn linux.

I'd surprized if using Linux would produce a significantly higher CPU rating (points per hour) than a Windows OS. What kind of difference are you talking about?

Well all the folks at Free-DC seems to think it does.
Bok's 2700XPs are getting rating around 240. I know mine running windows don't.
I don't have anything with a rating that high.
http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread...00ef8da15233f70&postid=84931#post84931

 

[Slatzman]

Thanks for the stats Silver

Slatz

 

[GeoffS]

Originally posted by: BadThad

Originally posted by: Freewolf
Thanks for the stats.
Morning Paul
It seems one way to increase your cpu rating and your points is to switch to linux from windows. From what I've read linux boxes get higher cpu rating than window boxes.
Now if I could just learn linux.

I'd surprized if using Linux would produce a significantly higher CPU rating (points per hour) than a Windows OS. What kind of difference are you talking about?

This has been true of other projects also... I guess there is less overhead depending on the implementation of Linux compared to Windows... it was definately true for RC5-64... but I haven't tried it on other projects...

 

[BadThad]

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: BadThad

Originally posted by: Freewolf
Thanks for the stats.
Morning Paul
It seems one way to increase your cpu rating and your points is to switch to linux from windows. From what I've read linux boxes get higher cpu rating than window boxes.
Now if I could just learn linux.

I'd surprized if using Linux would produce a significantly higher CPU rating (points per hour) than a Windows OS. What kind of difference are you talking about?

Well all the folks at Free-DC seems to think it does.
Bok's 2700XPs are getting rating around 240. I know mine running windows don't.
I don't have anything with a rating that high.
http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread...00ef8da15233f70&postid=84931#post84931

Well, it seems that Linux is just a better OS for DC projects because that's a huge difference. My Athlon XP system running at 200x11 on an nForce2 mobo (winXP) has an avg rating of 204. The XP2700+ is a 333 fsb CPU running at 2166MHz and it's getting a rating of 240 under Linux according to those guys?! It's almost hard to believe an OS could make such a profound difference....that's unreal IMO. Also, I really work hard to optimize all my WinXP installs, I run them under a very minimal configuration (I spend a good bit of time killing unneeded services.

 

[Freewolf]

Originally posted by: BadThad

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: BadThad

Originally posted by: Freewolf
Thanks for the stats.
Morning Paul
It seems one way to increase your cpu rating and your points is to switch to linux from windows. From what I've read linux boxes get higher cpu rating than window boxes.
Now if I could just learn linux.

I'd surprized if using Linux would produce a significantly higher CPU rating (points per hour) than a Windows OS. What kind of difference are you talking about?

Well all the folks at Free-DC seems to think it does.
Bok's 2700XPs are getting rating around 240. I know mine running windows don't.
I don't have anything with a rating that high.
http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread...00ef8da15233f70&postid=84931#post84931

Well, it seems that Linux is just a better OS for DC projects because that's a huge difference. My Athlon XP system running at 200x11 on an nForce2 mobo (winXP) has an avg rating of 204. The XP2700+ is a 333 fsb CPU running at 2166MHz and it's getting a rating of 240 under Linux according to those guys?! It's almost hard to believe an OS could make such a profound difference....that's unreal IMO. Also, I really work hard to optimize all my WinXP installs, I run them under a very minimal configuration (I spend a good bit of time killing unneeded services.

Mine gets about the same as yours.

 

[BadThad]

Didn't mondo mention (or hint) of some sort of hack to Linux that can inflate your points? I don't understand how that would work, according Geoff's (and mine) calculations CPU Rating is nothing more than Points per Hour, which is calculated from gigaflops. Gigaflops is primarily based on the CPU's FPU power, secondarily it's based on the subsystem surrounding the CPU since data has to be moved around to keep the CPU "fed".

So, from my understanding, most of "CPU Rating", in theory, should be derived purely from the CPU clock speed, FPU efficiency and L1/L2 cache. The rest should not make that significant difference unless something on the system is totally FUBAR.

Oh man.....😕

 

[Freewolf]

Originally posted by: BadThad
Didn't mondo mention (or hint) of some sort of hack to Linux that can inflate your points? I don't understand how that would work, according Geoff's (and mine) calculations CPU Rating is nothing more than Points per Hour, which is calculated from gigaflops. Gigaflops is primarily based on the CPU's FPU power, secondarily it's based on the subsystem surrounding the CPU since data has to be moved around to keep the CPU "fed".

So, from my understanding, most of "CPU Rating", in theory, should be derived purely from the CPU clock speed, FPU efficiency and L1/L2 cache. The rest should not make that significant difference unless something on the system is totally FUBAR.

Oh man.....😕

Don't know about Linux. I know you can with win m and earlier.

 

[JTWill]

Freewolf as soon as my Athlon 2100 (1.7Ghz) is done with its present job, I'm changing it over to Linux. It has a CPU of 165, let you guys know right away( about 2 hours into running Linux) what the difference is. This machine used to be my main one but now all its going to do is run FAD and linux applications.

 

[Freewolf]

Originally posted by: JTWill
Freewolf as soon as my Athlon 2100 (1.7Ghz) is done with its present job, I'm changing it over to Linux. It has a CPU of 165, let you guys know right away( about 2 hours into running Linux) what the difference is. This machine used to be my main one but now all its going to do is run FAD and linux applications.

Cool
If it really makes that big a different without having to do some kind of hack or something I might have to start learning linux.

 

[JTWill]

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: JTWill
Freewolf as soon as my Athlon 2100 (1.7Ghz) is done with its present job, I'm changing it over to Linux. It has a CPU of 165, let you guys know right away( about 2 hours into running Linux) what the difference is. This machine used to be my main one but now all its going to do is run FAD and linux applications.

Cool
If it really makes that big a different without having to do some kind of hack or something I might have to start learning linux.

I'm going to follow the intructions exactly, We do have a team thats a dedicated Linux forum, so I know where to get help with problems. 😀

 

[Freewolf]

Originally posted by: JTWill

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: JTWill
Freewolf as soon as my Athlon 2100 (1.7Ghz) is done with its present job, I'm changing it over to Linux. It has a CPU of 165, let you guys know right away( about 2 hours into running Linux) what the difference is. This machine used to be my main one but now all its going to do is run FAD and linux applications.

Cool
If it really makes that big a different without having to do some kind of hack or something I might have to start learning linux.

I'm going to follow the intructions exactly, We do have a team thats a dedicated Linux forum, so I know where to get help with problems. 😀

Most of us old seti guys around here don't know jack about linux as it's about 10% slower then windows at seti .

 

[BadThad]

Originally posted by: JTWill
Freewolf as soon as my Athlon 2100 (1.7Ghz) is done with its present job, I'm changing it over to Linux. It has a CPU of 165, let you guys know right away( about 2 hours into running Linux) what the difference is. This machine used to be my main one but now all its going to do is run FAD and linux applications.

Awesome....I can't wait to see the results! This issue has me perplexed! 😕

 

[BadThad]

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: JTWill

Originally posted by: Freewolf

Originally posted by: JTWill
Freewolf as soon as my Athlon 2100 (1.7Ghz) is done with its present job, I'm changing it over to Linux. It has a CPU of 165, let you guys know right away( about 2 hours into running Linux) what the difference is. This machine used to be my main one but now all its going to do is run FAD and linux applications.

Cool
If it really makes that big a different without having to do some kind of hack or something I might have to start learning linux.

I'm going to follow the intructions exactly, We do have a team thats a dedicated Linux forum, so I know where to get help with problems. 😀

Most of us old seti guys around here don't know jack about linux as it's about 10% slower then windows at seti .

Exactly, there was no point is using Linux with SETI.

 

[JTWill]

http://usalug.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5724
USA Linux Users Group :: The Quick Guide to setting up the FAD 1.25g Linux Client

 

[Freewolf]

They say linux is 3 to 5 % faster than windows at FaD which I guess could explain the higher cpu rating.

 

[JTWill]

Have a kinda fast lung job at 88%, going to find out LOL

 

[BadThad]

Originally posted by: Freewolf
They say linux is 3 to 5 % faster than windows at FaD which I guess could explain the higher cpu rating.

No way it would. If it was 5% faster then: 204 x 0.05 = ~10. The CPU rating for my XP system would be around 215. How the hell than that guy run on much slower hardware and get a 240 rating?????? Something STINKS I'm telling you. Somebody prove me wrong and show me my ignorance here.

 

[BadThad]

For reference, here's the quote from BOK over on Free-DC:

I've been going through and cataloging my PC's recently and have come across an odd problem. One of the PC's is an XP2700 but only gets a FAD rating of 170, whereas my other XP2700's are in the 240's ?

I've checked that it is running at correct speed, which it is ~ 2.1Ghz, so I don't understand it?

This is just another of my blades, so nothing else running on it.

Any ideas?

Perhaps I'll just re-install FAD /shrug

Bok

I'd expect a rating of 170-180 for an Athlon XP classic (256k L2) at 2.1GHz. My Barton (512k L2) at 2.2GHz is 204.

 

[GeoffS]

I get the impression that there's more to it than just the CPU speed... the hardware also comes into play based on what I'm seeing with my machines... for example (and I don't have any of the cool hardware you guys do :roll: ) I have 3 XP1700+ machines... they are averaging 135, 140, and 145 respectively. My 2000+ machines are running 159, 161, 163 and 168... my dual 1900 does 154 on each, whereas my single 1900s are doing 149 and 152... go figure...

 

[JTWill]

I can't answer the question myself but I want to learn Linux, and I have a nice machine to dedicate to it PLUS I still can run FAD.. AH RIGHT The lung job just finished in the middle of this post. BYE, gonna be busy for a little while.