FAD: Mar-30 officeboy's doing the TOP-DAWG dance today!

Freewolf

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55 active members returned 900,574 points yesterday :thumbsup:

officeboy leads the pack today with 250,601 points! Honourable mentions go to mondobyte (212,133 pts) and TA_GeoffS (63,154 pts).

DaFinn was our highest climber jumping 1,776 spots!

Today's Milestone Makers
mondobyte crossed 240M molecules
Raoul_Teteblanc crossed 102M molecules
Rebel_Alliance crossed 49M molecules
Silverthorne crossed 6M points
Tri-Digital crossed 31M molecules
NEONERD crossed 10M molecules
LastKnight crossed 10M molecules
TA_JC crossed 7M molecules
cooper76 crossed 9M molecules
Ebeneezer crossed 3M molecules
Fardringle crossed 1M molecules
Milestones are every 1M pts, 1M molecules, 1 yr CPU time

Please join me in welcoming our newest members:
officeboy came from (unknown)
mikerewak came from (unknown)

... and wishing all the best to our departed members:
Officeboy left for (unknown)

Welcome all and thanks for crunching with us!

More TeAm Stats can be found HERE

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Stats brought to you by TA_GeoffS of Team AnandTech!

 

BadThad

Lifer
Feb 22, 2000
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Back in the positive...finally. Nice job officeboy! :D

Hopefully, we are DONE with the people that feel the need to leave the TeAm! I will NEVER understand why people join a TeAm and then quit shortly after...that is LAME, LAME, LAME. I'd rather not see anyone join that is not committed to staying until the END. :|

Thanks for the update Freewolf! :)
 

office boy

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 1999
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Not sure whats going on with the Officeboy vs officeboy, but hopefully it's all sorted out now.

and welcome mikerewak :beer:
 

mondobyte

Senior member
Jun 28, 2004
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Thanks for the stats folks,

Perhaps Officeboy put the wrong team number in ... and corrected it. Perhaps we should give folks the benefit of the doubt.

With me "reactivating" old clients, it is even possible that I might stray for a brief time too. I would hope that everyone would give me the benefit of the doubt rather than crucifying me.

A bit more tolerance might be beneficial than acrimony over the departures. Sh**t happens!

mondo
 

office boy

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 1999
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hi mondobyte i'm officeboy, nice to meet yah.
I haven?t changed teams or gone anywhere.. But I did notice I had one set of crunchers working under the name of Officeboy, and well I don't like to capitalize a silly name like that. So I?ve changed that now and I guess that?s why it shows that I?ve left, and joined.

(Maybe these stats should not be case sensitive?)
 

Slatzman

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Sep 23, 2002
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I think what Badthad was referring to is the people with several million points that seem to jump from team to team for no particular reason other than to irriatate their former teams.

People that do name changes aren't the object of his ire.

I still advocate a system that allows the points to stay with the team that they were earned with. Individual stats would still be your own and show up as yours in the individual stats lists, but the team stats would only count the wu's submitted by people that were memebers of that team at the time of submittal.

Just my $0.02

Oh yeah...thanks for the stats post

Slatz

 

mondobyte

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Jun 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Slatzman
I think what Badthad was referring to is the people with several million points that seem to jump from team to team for no particular reason other than to irriatate their former teams.
...
Slatz

And ... I believe I most certainly qualify as one of the folks you refer to in your remarks ... shall I presume that you wish me [edit] and my previously acquired points[/edit] to leave ASAP ??

Personally, stay with the team or stay with the individual, stats are not what this is all about ... it is about the work. If I changed to another team or to TEAM NONE, I would hope that everyone on this team would champion the efforts that I have put forth and be happy that others, whether on this team or another, have contributed to that work and be very satisfied that they are actually doing the work.

We should welcome everyone who gives our forum a "test drive" and say nothing negative if they depart. Perhaps ... they may find that pastures are not greener elsewhere. What is this with slamming doors in those folks faces. We should leave the door wide open and entreat those folks to return and explain what they found "unattractive" about our forums and team.

My .02 ... It grates against my soul when the ONLY motivation seems to be stats. I stand ready to rebuff anyone who claims I don't do the work irrespective of my team affiliation.

Thanks

mondo

[edit]Perhaps ... I am PMS'ing today[/edit]
 

JTWill

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Feb 2, 2005
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Originally posted by: mondobyte
Originally posted by: Slatzman
I think what Badthad was referring to is the people with several million points that seem to jump from team to team for no particular reason other than to irriatate their former teams.
...
Slatz

And ... I believe I most certainly qualify as one of the folks you refer to in your remarks ... shall I presume that you wish me [edit] and my previously acquired points[/edit] to leave ASAP ??

Personally, stay with the team or stay with the individual, stats are not what this is all about ... it is about the work. If I changed to another team or to TEAM NONE, I would hope that everyone on this team would champion the efforts that I have put forth and be happy that others, whether on this team or another, have contributed to that work and be very satisfied that they are actually doing the work.

We should welcome everyone who gives our forum a "test drive" and say nothing negative if they depart. Perhaps ... they may find that pastures are not greener elsewhere. What is this with slamming doors in those folks faces. We should leave the door wide open and entreat those folks to return and explain what they found "unattractive" about our forums and team.

My .02 ... It grates against my soul when the ONLY motivation seems to be stats. I stand ready to rebuff anyone who claims I don't do the work irrespective of my team affiliation.

Thanks

mondo

[edit]Perhaps ... I am PMS'ing today[/edit]

That is the absolute correct answer. Its about the cure for diseases that have killed in the millions. ;)
 

TAandy

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Oct 24, 2002
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Originally posted by: JTWill
Originally posted by: mondobyte
Originally posted by: Slatzman
I think what Badthad was referring to is the people with several million points that seem to jump from team to team for no particular reason other than to irriatate their former teams.
...
Slatz

And ... I believe I most certainly qualify as one of the folks you refer to in your remarks ... shall I presume that you wish me [edit] and my previously acquired points[/edit] to leave ASAP ??

Personally, stay with the team or stay with the individual, stats are not what this is all about ... it is about the work. If I changed to another team or to TEAM NONE, I would hope that everyone on this team would champion the efforts that I have put forth and be happy that others, whether on this team or another, have contributed to that work and be very satisfied that they are actually doing the work.

We should welcome everyone who gives our forum a "test drive" and say nothing negative if they depart. Perhaps ... they may find that pastures are not greener elsewhere. What is this with slamming doors in those folks faces. We should leave the door wide open and entreat those folks to return and explain what they found "unattractive" about our forums and team.

My .02 ... It grates against my soul when the ONLY motivation seems to be stats. I stand ready to rebuff anyone who claims I don't do the work irrespective of my team affiliation.

Thanks

mondo

[edit]Perhaps ... I am PMS'ing today[/edit]

That is the absolute correct answer. Its about the cure for diseases that have killed in the millions. ;)

:beer:
C'mon guys, it's voluntary :D
Competition is good, but it's nothing to falll out over :D
 

mondobyte

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Jun 28, 2004
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I'm not falling out over anything ... just stating the painfully obvious ...

We need to agree that the work is important, the stats are certainly fun and ... perhaps motivation for some, and team changes are certainly a transitory phenomenon along the path that the other two follow :)

mond
 

Slatzman

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Sep 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: mondobyte
Originally posted by: Slatzman
I think what Badthad was referring to is the people with several million points that seem to jump from team to team for no particular reason other than to irriatate their former teams.
...
Slatz

And ... I believe I most certainly qualify as one of the folks you refer to in your remarks ... shall I presume that you wish me [edit] and my previously acquired points[/edit] to leave ASAP ??

Personally, stay with the team or stay with the individual, stats are not what this is all about ... it is about the work. If I changed to another team or to TEAM NONE, I would hope that everyone on this team would champion the efforts that I have put forth and be happy that others, whether on this team or another, have contributed to that work and be very satisfied that they are actually doing the work.

We should welcome everyone who gives our forum a "test drive" and say nothing negative if they depart. Perhaps ... they may find that pastures are not greener elsewhere. What is this with slamming doors in those folks faces. We should leave the door wide open and entreat those folks to return and explain what they found "unattractive" about our forums and team.

My .02 ... It grates against my soul when the ONLY motivation seems to be stats. I stand ready to rebuff anyone who claims I don't do the work irrespective of my team affiliation.

Thanks

mondo

[edit]Perhaps ... I am PMS'ing today[/edit]

Mondo...first let me clear a few things up...one...yes the ultimate goal is about the cures...second ,the stats is what drives many of us as the tangible goals of a cure could be far off, the stats are instant gratification which is what appeals to human nature.

Second, I was not referring to you, I was more referring to the team jumping that just seems for no reason. I do not think badly of those people, I just think that the scoring system in place is not the best. SOB has a scoring sytem in place that is very similar to what I was suggesting.

As to you specifically, whether you had brought 100 million points or no points, you are welcome on the TeAm, personally, I feel if you are crunchin at all for the TeAm, that is what is most important. I did not mean the comments to start anything.

That you are one of our biggest crunchers is great, but if you lost all of your fleet other than a home computer, you would still be more than welcome around these parts.

Crunch on.

Slatz
 

mondobyte

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Jun 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Slatzman
That you are one of our biggest crunchers is ... Slatz
unfortunate.

Generally, I tend to bite my tongue (of late) because I am a particulary able supporter of FaD. It goes with the territory. I cannot blaspheme as I have in the past and I cannot comment too loudly in some circles as my voice has somewhat more weight than I wish.

Sorry, ... my opinions are my own and do not represent those of this team or any other.

[edit]Shall I maintain my silence and be presumed to be a fool?? Or ... shall I speak and be known as a fool?. Perhaps I should take the fifth and maintain my silence. Too much for my puny brain today ;)[/edit]

Thanks

mondo
 

GeoffS

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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lol... I think we all know why we're here... that's to work towards finding the cure to one or more of the devestating diseases that plague mankind. That there is a social aspect to this too is an added benefit. I very much enjoy the comraderie of the TeAm and would feel bad if I made anyone feel they were not welcome... I may have contributed to ZacharyB not returning to the TeAm... I made an off-hand remark about teamhoppers on the T-IMO board and, while I didn't mean it in a derogatory manner, I suspect it may have been taken that way. The TeAm has benefited from defectors from other teams just as much as we've been affected by people leaving the TeAm... that's the way it goes. In general, this is a close knit group of people that have really come together in the past when one of us has stumbled. I like this team and I like my team mates... why anyone would want to leave is beyond me! :p

ZacharyB - If you still read these forums, I hope you will reconsider your departure... come back without your points for all I care... it's not about the points... it's about the friends and acquaintances we make along the way :)

Geoff
 

Slatzman

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Sep 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: GeoffS
lol... I think we all know why we're here... that's to work towards finding the cure to one or more of the devestating diseases that plague mankind. That there is a social aspect to this too is an added benefit. I very much enjoy the comraderie of the TeAm and would feel bad if I made anyone feel they were not welcome... I may have contributed to ZacharyB not returning to the TeAm... I made an off-hand remark about teamhoppers on the T-IMO board and, while I didn't mean it in a derogatory manner, I suspect it may have been taken that way. The TeAm has benefited from defectors from other teams just as much as we've been affected by people leaving the TeAm... that's the way it goes. In general, this is a close knit group of people that have really come together in the past when one of us has stumbled. I like this team and I like my team mates... why anyone would want to leave is beyond me! :p

ZacharyB - If you still read these forums, I hope you will reconsider your departure... come back without your points for all I care... it's not about the points... it's about the friends and acquaintances we make along the way :)

Geoff


well said Geoff

Slatz
 

BadThad

Lifer
Feb 22, 2000
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Sorry to have started anything here. While on the SETI TeAm I saw a LOT of people team hop, some seemed to make a hobby of it. What I don't understand is why people feel the need to join 15 different teams over a project. This is more pronouned when you have someone that carries a lot of work with them. They get a team all excited, produce for a few weeks, then leave for another team. It's just pointless and annoying.

I have to apologize, because after seeing this happen over the 6 years of SETI, it's very frustrating to me and I'm particularly sensitive to it. It's unfortunate that the FaD developers didn't see the flaw in this system, especially considering SETI set a prime example of the downfalls in this type of team system. Sadly, it's a fact we have to live with.

Now, everyone hug and put this behind us. We have a great FaD TeAm here! :)
 

mondobyte

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Jun 28, 2004
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I'll go for a group hug.

I've been contributing to FaD for about 4-5 years.

In that time I've been banned from two teams and left a third on my own. This is the fourth team that I have participated in. I have strong feelings about the project and that gets me in hot water frequently. When you guys pry me out of the team with a crowbar, I'll go.

I participated on my own in UD then joined TIMO (Ex Mad Cows). Even after I was banned from the TIMO forums, I continued to support that team for over a year. (A subtle jab to one of the mods and others at TIMO). I left my D2OL points with TIMO until I joined Anandtech whereupon I transferred them to this team.

I've participated in SETI Classic for many years and have only crunched for one team there. SETI Classic is basically dead at this point so that is a moot issue.

I am not beyond Team Hopping but it usually takes a stick of dynamite or a bit of nitro to blast me free.

We all need to be careful how we criticise situations and others. We do not know who frequents these forums (reads them) nor do we know how far our comments may have impact beyond these forums.

"The meanderings of the horde"

mondo
 

GeoffS

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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... especially with this finicky client... it seems that updates made on one client don't always propegate to other clients for the same user... the result can be apparent team hopping, or name changing, etc, when that is not, in fact, what is happening. I believe that's what happened to ZacharyB and I (among others) was too quick to assume otherwise.

Geoff
 

Shame

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Dec 28, 2001
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Just for the record: I don't like stats, the project, or any of you guys... :p