Fact Check: McCain's 'closing argument'

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miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama can simply afford to be more truthful than McSame because McSame is going for the moron vote who couldn't tell a lie from their own ass.

The far more intelligent and advanced Democrats are far more able to handle the truth.

If you would have asked me before 2000 does John McCain have integrity, I would have said yes, without question, but the past 8 years have proven that completely wrong. A shame.

I would like one significant example over the last 8 years that shows McCain has lost his credibility. I will offer Obama's flop on public financing as one example of his proven record of showing zero integrity.

'agents of intolerance'
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Alistar7


Obama's economic plan is horrible, raise taxes on business, raise capital gains taxes, and increase deficit spending. At least McCain understands the need for fiscal responsibility, reduction of government, and has stated a balanced budget would be a reachable goal.

raising capital gains taxes is an essential economic reform that needs to happen.

and since you are apparently ignorant, mccains proposed spending/taxation raises the deficit just as much as obama's. Finally, the tax on business is a progressive tax on profit only, and raises taxes only on profits over 250k. Effective tax rates on corporations are already close to the lowest in the world.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama can simply afford to be more truthful than McSame because McSame is going for the moron vote who couldn't tell a lie from their own ass.

The far more intelligent and advanced Democrats are far more able to handle the truth.

If you would have asked me before 2000 does John McCain have integrity, I would have said yes, without question, but the past 8 years have proven that completely wrong. A shame.

I would like one significant example over the last 8 years that shows McCain has lost his credibility. I will offer Obama's flop on public financing as one example of his proven record of showing zero integrity.

'agents of intolerance'

Yes, it was socialist of Obama to refuse public financing for his campaign.
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama can simply afford to be more truthful than McSame because McSame is going for the moron vote who couldn't tell a lie from their own ass.

The far more intelligent and advanced Democrats are far more able to handle the truth.

...says the moron who has been conned into believing McCain is the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

so, whats the difference? all i can think of is anwar

That's because you are all informed. You've drank the Obama kool-aid. You've been caught up in the enthusiasm, and lost your sense of reality along the way.

One example - although I know it's not enough for the idiots because none of you care to listen to anything anyways, you'll just go on supporting Obama because it is the "hip" thing to do - Bush sent government spending through the roof. McCain plans to cut all non-essential government spending in his first year.

Wow, that was soooo hard to prove McCain is not the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

There, now you can go back to believing your lies.
 

Alistar7

Lifer
May 13, 2002
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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama can simply afford to be more truthful than McSame because McSame is going for the moron vote who couldn't tell a lie from their own ass.

The far more intelligent and advanced Democrats are far more able to handle the truth.

...says the moron who has been conned into believing McCain is the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

so, whats the difference? all i can think of is anwar

That's because you are all informed. You've drank the Obama kool-aid. You've been caught up in the enthusiasm, and lost your sense of reality along the way.

One example - although I know it's not enough for the idiots because none of you care to listen to anything anyways, you'll just go on supporting Obama because it is the "hip" thing to do - Bush sent government spending through the roof. McCain plans to cut all non-essential government spending in his first year.

Wow, that was soooo hard to prove McCain is not the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

There, now you can go back to believing your lies.

Don't mention his pledge to shut down gitmo, or his stance on climate change.

Of course look at the major differences between Obama and every other Democrat.....

 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama can simply afford to be more truthful than McSame because McSame is going for the moron vote who couldn't tell a lie from their own ass.

The far more intelligent and advanced Democrats are far more able to handle the truth.

...says the moron who has been conned into believing McCain is the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

so, whats the difference? all i can think of is anwar

That's because you are all informed. You've drank the Obama kool-aid. You've been caught up in the enthusiasm, and lost your sense of reality along the way.

One example - although I know it's not enough for the idiots because none of you care to listen to anything anyways, you'll just go on supporting Obama because it is the "hip" thing to do - Bush sent government spending through the roof. McCain plans to cut all non-essential government spending in his first year.

Wow, that was soooo hard to prove McCain is not the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

There, now you can go back to believing your lies.

Don't mention his pledge to shut down gitmo, or his stance on climate change.

Of course look at the major differences between Obama and every other Democrat.....

92% Mcsame as Bush, remember. He also has a fat cheek that's different.
 
Feb 16, 2005
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Originally posted by: Alistar7
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama can simply afford to be more truthful than McSame because McSame is going for the moron vote who couldn't tell a lie from their own ass.

The far more intelligent and advanced Democrats are far more able to handle the truth.

If you would have asked me before 2000 does John McCain have integrity, I would have said yes, without question, but the past 8 years have proven that completely wrong. A shame.

I would like one significant example over the last 8 years that shows McCain has lost his credibility. I will offer Obama's flop on public financing as one example of his proven record of showing zero integrity.

Here's a BIG one, dumbya et al drug him through the mud bigtime in 2000, and he ended up kissing his ass for 8 years, that's where I lost respect, and I think alot of people did too.

But kudos to you, you made me, the OP, get derailed in my own thread, it was about how less than 20% of mccain's talking points are 100% true. In other words, he's full of shit, knows it, and doesn't care about it.
So there's yet another sign of lack of integrity.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Obama can simply afford to be more truthful than McSame because McSame is going for the moron vote who couldn't tell a lie from their own ass.

The far more intelligent and advanced Democrats are far more able to handle the truth.

...says the moron who has been conned into believing McCain is the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

so, whats the difference? all i can think of is anwar

That's because you are all informed. You've drank the Obama kool-aid. You've been caught up in the enthusiasm, and lost your sense of reality along the way.

One example - although I know it's not enough for the idiots because none of you care to listen to anything anyways, you'll just go on supporting Obama because it is the "hip" thing to do - Bush sent government spending through the roof. McCain plans to cut all non-essential government spending in his first year.

Wow, that was soooo hard to prove McCain is not the same as Bush :roll::roll::roll:

There, now you can go back to believing your lies.

Blah, blah, kool-aid, blah, blah, messiah, blah, blah socialist. Yeah, we got it moron. :roll: