Facebook knows if a government is spying on you

[John Connor]

Facebook will start alerting users who are under government surveillance and may be infected with dangerous malware, according to an official Facebook note.

Starting today, we will notify you if we believe your account has been targeted or compromised by an attacker suspected of working on behalf of a nation-state,” said Alex Stamos, chief security officer at Facebook.
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If the company has a “strong suspicion” you are targeted by spies with the help of sophisticated malware, it will send you this message:

So they, Facebook have all the spying pleasure?


It really amazes me that people have more trust in a company, especially the Windows 10 BS, yet when it comes to the NSA or government they say, "oh hell no!"

 

[Ham n' Eggs]

Facebook would not know if the US is spying on you, just the lower tier govts (Egypt, etc.)

watch this link:
Eben Moglen - reublica 2012
https://youtu.be/sKOk4Y4inVY?t=22m30s

 

[lxskllr]

watch this link:
Eben Moglen - reublica 2012
https://youtu.be/sKOk4Y4inVY?t=22m30s

That's my favorite presentation from him. I look forward to new Moglen speeches the way some people look forward to new GoT episodes.

 

[Ham n' Eggs]

That's my favorite presentation from him. I look forward to new Moglen speeches the way some people look forward to new GoT episodes.

me too... and I agree

I do a youtube search about once a month for anything new.
I also like his "freedom in the Cloud"

 

[John Connor]

Says video not available.

 

[kranky]

Says video not available.

When they are spying on you, their surveillance software blocks the video.

 

[lxskllr]

Link to the full presentation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_UB-Q3jqPY

 

[CZroe]

Tagged for later

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

last I checked, Facebook was in bed with the government.... Soooo..... yeaaaah. Last thing I'm going to trust is Facebook.

 

[John Connor]

Tagged for later

You can always click on thread tools top right and select bookmark.

 

[John Connor]

last I checked, Facebook was in bed with the government.... Soooo..... yeaaaah. Last thing I'm going to trust is Facebook.

Well, they are mking a new social networking site. Apparently it will be a combination of Myspace, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. It will be called Myfaceyoutwit.

 

[CZroe]

You can always click on thread tools top right and select bookmark.

Not easy on this device. I much prefer tapping the star to subscribe on Tapatalk but it takes multiple page loads on a desktop.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Not sure what the OP is on about, I haven't heard a single person ever say they trusted Facebook. Also, the Windows 10 BS applies to 7 and 8 now too doesn't it? And like Google (and almost certainly Apple) weren't doing the same shit years before.

And gee, I wonder why people might be more concerned with the NSA than Facebook. Really?

 

[lxskllr]

And gee, I wonder why people might be more concerned with the NSA than Facebook. Really?

No idea, since they're exactly the same. Facebook et al collect data, and the NSA takes it.

 

[John Connor]

Also, the Windows 10 BS applies to 7 and 8 now too doesn't it?

Only through an update.

 

[MongGrel]

Only through an update.

Cuba, John, it is always Cuba.

 

[darkswordsman17]

No idea, since they're exactly the same. Facebook et al collect data, and the NSA takes it.

By that logic then the Library of Congress and the Smithsonian are every bit as bad as the NSA.

But, you're right, because Facebook can bring to bear the forces the NSA can. Totally exactly the same. No difference at all whatsoever. Er, wait, so the NSA is taking that data from Facebook. Hmm, it's like, I don't know, the NSA is forcing them to? I'll reiterate, gee I wonder why people might be more concerned with the NSA than Facebook?

I'm not defending Facebook (I'm hardly a big fan, and there's serious questions about their data logging and use of said data) but hyperbole bullshit like that is why people are not taking this stuff seriously.

Only through an update.

Don't update and have fun with security.

 

[John Connor]

Don't update and have fun with security.

I think it's the update its self that does this. i.e it has no "security" use once so ever.

Now I'm going to get major flack for this, see meme. I don't care. I have never used updates, EVER! I use service packs and that's it and guess what? I don't surf the net and download crap like other morons I see all over asking on tech sites, "how do I remove this virus?"

Let me tell you what I do and run:

Herdprotect
Malwarebytes
Superantispyware
Adwcleaner
junkware removal tool
Tdsskiller
Freefixer
Check Autoruns
Run Hijackthis
Use Bitdefender Free
Use Sandboxie
Use NoScript
Scan all downloads in Virustotal
I also use detekt & RookMilano
And some other root kit finding Apps

I'm still waiting for a "virus."

Okay, updateers. You may now attack me with the "Oh, you MUST update your OS!"

I have seen so many problems with updates. I stopped using them in 2004. I'm like WTF is all this crap, and why are they so huge? What are they putting on my computer?

Food for thought. If you install hardware updates, you shouldn't unless of course you absolutely need them. To make sure dumb ass M$ doesn't screw your hardware drivers up, go to Control Panel | Devices & Printers | Right click the computer icon and chose "Device installation settings." There you will see "never install driver software from Winblows update."

Let the "mandatory" gotta have 'em updates continue.

 

[Phoenix86]

Windows updates will be nearly impossible to avoid, but you can mostly disable them through the OS or at your firewall.

 

[Mike64]

I wonder why people might be more concerned with the NSA than Facebook?

I don't like or support mass surveillance, but as far as things stand currently, I 'd personally prefer the NSA collecting my data than Facebook (or Google, etc). (And if I felt otherwise, I probably wouldn't be posting on this or any other general-use web forum, just for starters... As it is, I simply don't use Facebook at all except to look at my young family-members' stuff, and feel absolutely no loss from not using it any more than that.)

So far, anyway, nothing Snowden and other whistleblowers have said/released, nor even any of the myriad conspiracy theorists have theorized, suggests the NSA is using their mighty resources to compile a for-profit profile to sell to whomever is willing to pay for it...

 

[John Connor]

Personally, I think the NSA has potential. Not a damn domestic one but a foreign one. Like the CIA they should never be able to collect Intel on U/S citizens. Did the damn NSA prevent 9/11? The fuck they didn't! Back then the news headline was: Intelligence Failure! And boy was it ever. But who knows. Perhaps some real shady shit with Delta Force and Homeland Security has prevented another 9/11.

 

[CZroe]

I think it's the update its self that does this. i.e it has no "security" use once so ever.

Now I'm going to get major flack for this, see meme. I don't care. I have never used updates, EVER! I use service packs and that's it and guess what? I don't surf the net and download crap like other morons I see all over asking on tech sites, "how do I remove this virus?"

Let me tell you what I do and run:

Herdprotect
Malwarebytes
Superantispyware
Adwcleaner
junkware removal tool
Tdsskiller
Freefixer
Check Autoruns
Run Hijackthis
Use Bitdefender Free
Use Sandboxie
Use NoScript
Scan all downloads in Virustotal
I also use detekt & RookMilano
And some other root kit finding Apps

I'm still waiting for a "virus."

Okay, updateers. You may now attack me with the "Oh, you MUST update your OS!"

I have seen so many problems with updates. I stopped using them in 2004. I'm like WTF is all this crap, and why are they so huge? What are they putting on my computer?

Food for thought. If you install hardware updates, you shouldn't unless of course you absolutely need them. To make sure dumb ass M$ doesn't screw your hardware drivers up, go to Control Panel | Devices & Printers | Right click the computer icon and chose "Device installation settings." There you will see "never install driver software from Winblows update."

Let the "mandatory" gotta have 'em updates continue.

I'd rather have the problem fixed than waste resources and time running scanning with all that and letting them run even when I'm not compromised. I use most of that stuff to clean up after someone else who got malware. With good practices I myself never need it. I don't have to waste time pouring over my own Hijack This logs or wearing out my drives with scheduled scans and taking much longer to boot because it has to load all of my real-time protection apps first.

As for not updating and relying on those tools instead: Don't you have to keep those tools up-to-date too? :sneaky:

Sounds like you just made even more work for yourself, STILL have to suffer through "updates" (of a different kind), and are LESS secure to boot.

 

[MongGrel]

As for not updating and relying on those tools instead: Don't you have to keep those tools up-to-date too? :sneaky:

Sounds like you just made even more work for yourself, STILL have to suffer through "updates" (of a different kind), and are LESS secure to boot.

That is a lot of paranoia right there, on Johns part.

 

[John Connor]

I'd rather have the problem fixed than waste resources and time running scanning with all that and letting them run even when I'm not compromised. I use most of that stuff to clean up after someone else who got malware. With good practices I myself never need it. I don't have to waste time pouring over my own Hijack This logs or wearing out my drives with scheduled scans and taking much longer to boot because it has to load all of my real-time protection apps first.

As for not updating and relying on those tools instead: Don't you have to keep those tools up-to-date too? :sneaky:

Sounds like you just made even more work for yourself, STILL have to suffer through "updates" (of a different kind), and are LESS secure to boot.

I don't run all that crap all the time because I use one tool that beats them all hands down: Common sense. I know how to surf the Internet and not download everything in existence. But I digress. I bet you, lets say $30,000? That all the M$ updates in the world will not stop you from getting a virus. I see post after post on many tech site forums of infected computers, but I bet they have updates turned on.

If I was to download any M$ update it be just the criticals. You know, I'm not going to install that mess of other shit. If I need a specific KB I'll retrieve then. So far that happened only once years ago.