Face It: IRAN PWNED the CIA's Drone!

[olds]

I am shocked we can't tell where it is and drop a smart bomb on it.
Unless we wanted them to capture it...

 

[Patranus]

I am shocked we can't tell where it is and drop a smart bomb on it.
Unless we wanted them to capture it...

Again, the military had operations in motion to capture and/or destroy it and Obama called them off. He thought asking nicely and using the magic word would work.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Again, the military had operations in motion to capture and/or destroy it and Obama called them off. He thought asking nicely and using the magic word would work.

Link? I was also wondering why we just didn't hit it with a cruise missile.

 

[bignateyk]

How the fuck does it seem "fake"?

I'm sick and tired of government officials, they should just come out and say whether it happened or not.

No one will give a shit anyways.

Why? Is it really going to make a difference in your life?

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

My question is, why aren't these things equipped with 5 pounds of C4 that goes off if certain safety parameters are violated or also triggerable by its operators?

 

[Patranus]

My question is, why aren't these things equipped with 5 pounds of C4 that goes off if certain safety parameters are violated or also triggerable by its operators?

If the drone was hacked and Iran had complete control, how is the operator going to trigger a self destruct?

 

[spacejamz]

Exclusive: Iran hijacked US drone, says Iranian engineer




Pretty smart. I hope some of the guys and gals over at the CIA and Lockheed Martin (?) are doing some face palms over this.

Merry Xmas to Iran, Russia, China, etc.

wonder what their engineers have to say about Stuxnet?? LOL

 

[Macamus Prime]

The last footage that was captured by the drone after it went down, was an Iranian soldier teabagging the camera on said drone.

Obummer must have raged quit after that - LULZ!!!!shift+1!!!

 

[PottedMeat]

The last footage that was captured by the drone after it went down, was an Iranian soldier teabagging the camera on said drone.

Obummer must have raged quit after that - LULZ!!!!shift+1!!!

someone take that pic of obama watching the binladen op and shop in a iranian flag and a nutsack on the monitors

 

[maniacalpha1-1]

If the drone was hacked and Iran had complete control, how is the operator going to trigger a self destruct?

It could be kept on a completely different circuit from the rest of the systems. It could passively monitor the telemetry but be hardwired such that hacking can't interact with it. If it sees confusing info from the telemetry, boom. If the operator loses contact, he triggers destruction. Lots of other ways.

 

[Oyeve]

I am shocked we can't tell where it is and drop a smart bomb on it.
Unless we wanted them to capture it...

Maybe, we pull troops from Iraq, drive em a coupla miles and drop em in Iran.

 

[PottedMeat]

It could be kept on a completely different circuit from the rest of the systems. It could passively monitor the telemetry but be hardwired such that hacking can't interact with it. If it sees confusing info from the telemetry, boom. If the operator loses contact, he triggers destruction. Lots of other ways.

yep, it could have a watchdog looking for some periodic control signal and if it doesn't get it -> self destruct

 

[Patranus]

It could be kept on a completely different circuit from the rest of the systems. It could passively monitor the telemetry but be hardwired such that hacking can't interact with it. If it sees confusing info from the telemetry, boom. If the operator loses contact, he triggers destruction. Lots of other ways.

This is the same company that interchanged metric and imperial measurements and flew a $125 million satellite into Mars.

I think you are giving them too much credit.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

 

[RbSX]

America.. fuck yeah. Lawl you guys can't even wage war the way you guys used to.

 

[William Gaatjes]

I just read the text.
The suggestion i made in the other thread seems to be correct if this text is true.


From the op website :

"The GPS navigation is the weakest point," the Iranian engineer told the Monitor, giving the most detailed description yet published of Iran's "electronic ambush" of the highly classified US drone. "By putting noise [jamming] on the communications, you force the bird into autopilot. This is where the bird loses its brain."

The “spoofing” technique that the Iranians used – which took into account precise landing altitudes, as well as latitudinal and longitudinal data – made the drone “land on its own where we wanted it to, without having to crack the remote-control signals and communications” from the US control center, says the engineer.

The revelations about Iran's apparent electronic prowess come as the US, Israel, and some European nations appear to be engaged in an ever-widening covert war with Iran, which has seen assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists, explosions at Iran's missile and industrial facilities, and the Stuxnet computer virus that set back Iran’s nuclear program.

Now this engineer’s account of how Iran took over one of America’s most sophisticated drones suggests Tehran has found a way to hit back. The techniques were developed from reverse-engineering several less sophisticated American drones captured or shot down in recent years, the engineer says, and by taking advantage of weak, easily manipulated GPS signals, which calculate location and speed from multiple satellites.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=32689388&postcount=70

As a sidenote:
As an electrician with a little bit of RF background :
The plain will land when the communication is lost yes ?
What if the Iranians where able to find out at what frequencies communications between the drone and the command center where taking place ? Would it then not be possible to send out a high power signal directed at the receiving frequency for the drone. Then the drone will no longer receive any commands because the receiver inside the drone will not be able to decode commands properly and assume communication was lost.
It is similar as that you whisper to me and another person starts shouting next to you. I will not be able to hear you and i have to assume lost communication.

But even then, i would assume the drone would fly back to a preprogrammed set of coordinates (GPS) and land outside enemy territory behind friendly borders. If this is not the case, then that is a huge design flaw.
I would think the drone malfunctioned or the drone has design flaws.

I pet myself on the shoulder..

 

[hal2kilo]

Exclusive: Iran hijacked US drone, says Iranian engineer




Pretty smart. I hope some of the guys and gals over at the CIA and Lockheed Martin (?) are doing some face palms over this.

Merry Xmas to Iran, Russia, China, etc.

Bagdad Bob has come back from the dead.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

No, Obama PWNED the CIA when he called off any attempts to recover/blow up the drone once it crashed hopping that "pretty please" would work.

I don't think it would be practical to commit a full-blown act of war to recover a vehicle we sent to spy over another sovereign. This would have been like bombing the USSR until they returned Francis Gary Powers. It's also quite likely we had no way of knowing the precise location of the drone, particularly since it apparently thought it was in Afghanistan as a result of hacking, and would presumably have reported that, even assuming we still had any telemetric/radio communication with it.

 

[ultimatebob]

Its all made in Taiwan.

Depends on the parts... most memory is made in Taiwan, hard drives are made in Thailand, and a bunch of CPU's are still made in the US.

The engines and airframe are likely built in the US as well.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Again, the military had operations in motion to capture and/or destroy it and Obama called them off. He thought asking nicely and using the magic word would work.

Are you a retard? We're not at war with Iran. We can't just lob bombs at their facilities to destroy unmanned craft we sent there in the first place.

 

[FerrelGeek]

That would be awesome if it were true...

Why would this be awesome?

 

[airdata]

Again, the military had operations in motion to capture and/or destroy it and Obama called them off. He thought asking nicely and using the magic word would work.

Yeah... Blame Obama.

My question is, why aren't these things equipped with 5 pounds of C4 that goes off if certain safety parameters are violated or also triggerable by its operators?

This would make sense, but I'd be worried if iran actually took control of the drone, or if somebody else hacked them, they could just blow them up.

 

[MiniDoom]

LOLbama...

 

[Zedtom]

It was only recently that some member of congress was singing the praises of the drone technology because of its stealth capability and that no soldier would be put in harms way. The defense department will have some explaining to do when they come up to Capitol Hill to ask for more funding. They should consider some of the ideas mentioned here, but they can't discuss it for...security reasons.

 

[lk2500]

You guys are really missing the boat on this one. Did you notice how large that thing is? Haven't you seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail? The part with the Trojan Bunny Rabbit? It's a Trojan Drone. Chuck Norris and Dick Cheney are inside there and sneak out at night to steal Iranian intelligence.

Sheesh, I'm surprised nobody else picked up on this....