F@H: Sunday, November 6

[kb3edk]

Welcome to TeAm AnandTech F@H

TeAm News

Ranking: 25th place.

Production = 50,664 ppd (as of 4AM Eastern 11/6/2005) - up 3,500 ppd from last week

In case you haven't heard by now, plans are underway for a special holiday season race starting in December. Show your F@H spirit and volunteer to join the race TeAm!

Top 10 Producers by average ppd
1 Gravity: 5,326
2 Mark_F_Williams: 2,684
3 BCinSC: 1,728
4 GLeeM: 1,356
5 GimpyDaHoundDog: 1,330
6 Rebel_Alliance: 1,285
7 mike9o: 1,175
8 dawks-rawks: 1,010
9 Uppsala9496: 934
10 RustyNale: 908

Active Users: 191 - up 12 from last week

Four new users: please welcome TA_TheReaper, Echonic, jenus. and saladami to the TeAm!

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Three overtake targets
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"General [M]ayhem" - 22nd place - 41,069 ppd - overtake: 8/06
"ABXZone.com" - 18th place - 34,390 ppd - overtake: 8/07
"The Knights Who Say Ni!" - 24th place - 49,617 ppd - overtake: 10/09

Three current threats
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"Portugal@Folding" - 37th place - 63,836 ppd - overtake: 5/08
"Team Hack-A-Day" - 149th place - 81,040 ppd - overtake: 1/08
"Team Engadget" - 375th place - 80,399 ppd - overtake: 4/08

New Milestones

Name--------------------|---------------Milestone
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Gravity.........................................2,150,000
Mark_F_Williams...........................800,000 :thumbsup:
BCinSC............................................350,000
Czar...................................................100,000
dawks-rawks.....................................80,000
rise4310...........................................50,000
PilotOfPeace.....................................20,000
Scott66............................................10,000
Mojoed..............................................9,000
pcjabber............................................9,000
ecvs85..............................................9,000
Avis_Hunt..........................................8,000
maheshh...........................................6,000
cjacobs2............................................6,000
oldch0rd............................................6,000
Catalyst18.........................................5,000
Confusednewbie1552....................4,000
kresgefc............................................3,000
saladami............................................1,000
xbassman..........................................1,000
HLouie...............................................1,000
ohmide..............................................1,000
bjm129..............................................1,000
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Congratulations everyone! :beer::beer:

Challenges

Folder...................begining points......Current points.......Points Advancement
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5K Folding Fracas
Vikesrock8411.......40,521................41,871.....................1,350
natethegreat...........45,817................46,840.....................1,023

On The Way to 18K
Scott66.....................9,002..................10,494.......................1,492
Slider76...................13,641................14,440.....................799
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Useful getting started info can be found here: MDE's Start-up Guide

More detailed TeAm stats can be found on the EOC F@H stats page

New users will not appear until they have submitted a work unit under team #198

Milestones are as follows: every 1,000 points up until 10,000, from 10,000 to 100,000 will be every 10k, and every 50K after 100,000.

 

[Slider76]

4 new folders! wow! thats great, welcome to the team.

look at those milestones, great effort by all.

Thanks for the stats K.

i've had a wu fail to send 13 times now hopefully it gets sent soon (so my ppd looks good).

 

[Hurricane Andrew]

Welcome new TeAm-mates!

Thanks for the stats kb3edk!

 

[Pokey]

Welcome to the TeAm TA_TheReaper, Echonic, jenus. and saladami .

Congratulations to the top producer's and the MM's.

Thanks kb3edk . :thumbsup:

 

[natethegreat]

Originally posted by: Pokey
Welcome to the TeAm TA_TheReaper, Echonic, jenus. and saladami .

Congratulations to the top producer's and the MM's.

Thanks kb3edk . :thumbsup:

Ditto :thumbsup:

 

[The Reaper]

THX!

I will be slowly moving my machines from FAD.

I have:
FX-53 @ 2580MHz
A64 @ 2GHz
Duelie @ 1.6Ghz x2
Two Mobile Bartons @ 2350 and 2200GHz
Dell 3GHz HT

 

[Slider76]

now I have 2 wu's that won't upload (and 1 wu inbetween the 2 that did upload). they are worth ~300 and ~50 points respectivly. I'll search the forum in the morning.

 

[xbassman]

Morning TeAm!

I am still soaking in the differences between F@H and the other TA projects I have participated in.

I am sorry to here you are having trouble uploading Slider....
(I guess I should create shortcuts to my log files.)

Welcome Reaper! Can you imagine the boost if Mondo came over too?

I guess it is time to boost my wife's PC performance.
Her AXP-M is currently running 32C (load) @ 1.45v.
I think I will start with 3200+ settings

(edit) Is there any way to track offsite boxes like FAH LogStats does locally?

 

[Insidious]

Thanks for the stats kc3edk! :thumbsup:

Happy to see the new folders: TA_TheReaper, Echonic, jenus. and saladami WELCOME

As to the work units that won't upload. I have no idea of your setup, but it seems like most times when someone reports this difficulty it turns out to be an issue with ZA or Router setup. Sadly, I have no good suggestions. Hopefully, someone will. It isn't normal for results to be finiky about uploading.

Sorry for FAD ending. I know it had a lot of loyal crunchers in that project. I'm happy that some of you are giving F@H a try. I hope you like it!

-Sid

 

[Insidious]

The Stanford F@H forums have a section for third party contributions.. (installers, monitors, etc.) You might try there to see of there is a tool that will let you monitor those off site boxes.

stanford forums third party contributions section

Actually I think the FAH LogStats program has a way to let you monitor remote boxes using windows shares and/or FTP. I don't know the details, but I'm sure if you post your questions at the Standord Forum (and keep doing it here too) an answer will surface.

-Sid

 

[Scott66]

A hearty welcome, TA_TheReaper, Echonic, jenus. and saladam
Looks like some serious processing power:thumbsup:

Slider76, sorry about not being able to upload the work units. The only problem I ever had was after completing one unit, it started downloading one of the 600 pointer units. when I came back about an hour later to check on it, I had a different lower-point WU. The funny thing is I got credit for doing the 600 pointer and I had 8 more points

 

[rise]

Welcome to the TeAm TA_TheReaper, Echonic, jenus. and saladami :thumbsup:

congrats to the MM's and all the folders :beer:
thanks for the stats Adam

Originally posted by: Slider76
now I have 2 wu's that won't upload (and 1 wu inbetween the 2 that did upload). they are worth ~300 and ~50 points respectivly. I'll search the forum in the morning.

i had a unit do that once slider. i really don't recall what happened to make it finally upload. i know a a reboot or two were in the works because i was in the process of swapping parts about.

just leave it and it'll eventually go through

 

[Freewolf]

So far the biggest problem I can see with Folding is the fact that from just reading around on the forums there, which are very slow bty, the some of the admins and mods as well as some of the posters there are a ,hmmm don't think I can use the word for what they are here, but you get the idea I hope. I see now why no one from here hardly ever goes there.

 

[Insidious]

Originally posted by: Freewolf
So far the biggest problem I can see with Folding is the fact that from just reading around on the forums there, which are very slow bty, the some of the admins and mods as well as some of the posters there are a ,hmmm don't think I can use the word for what they are here, but you get the idea I hope. I see now why no one from here hardly ever goes there.

Sadly you got this right....

It isn't a bad resource for answers to technical difficulties, but don't even bother offering suggestions or criticisms. On the brighter side, it isn't usually Stanford people that are rude. Just a couple of the regulars there that think they own the place.

-Sid

 

[kb3edk]

Originally posted by: Freewolf
So far the biggest problem I can see with Folding is the fact that from just reading around on the forums there, which are very slow bty, the some of the admins and mods as well as some of the posters there are a ,hmmm don't think I can use the word for what they are here, but you get the idea I hope. I see now why no one from here hardly ever goes there.

Yes, and you're not the first person to notice this... Insidious went to those forums a few months back to complain about the inequities in the points system, and had to endure the flames. I think there's kind of a "fanboy" element there that reacts with hostility to any sort of suggested change or constructive criticism.

However, I don't let that affect my dedication to the F@H TeAm, everyone here has always been very supportive! I also agree with the basic aims of F@H and am impressed with their research results having been published in journals like Nature, JBC, etc.

I think the ultimate solution to the points inequities will be when F@H moves over to BOINC... when that happens I'm going to be one of the first to switch! I wonder if the cutover is taking so long in part because of the traditional Stanford/Berkeley rivalry...

 

[phicks]

FaH is moving to boinc. I didn't know that. Is that something thats coming soon.

 

[Freewolf]

I think they are planning on doing both boinc and the same software they are using now

 

[phicks]

Don't think I will ever learn how to post here.

Ok I can live with that. I did try to get boinc going with linux but never had much luck. I'm folding with no problem though.

 

[Insidious]

Originally posted by: phicks
Don't think I will ever learn how to post here.

practice, practice, practice

:beer: and a to keep your strength up.

-Sid

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: The Reaper
THX!

I will be slowly moving my machines from FAD.

I have:
FX-53 @ 2580MHz
A64 @ 2GHz
Duelie @ 1.6Ghz x2
Two Mobile Bartons @ 2350 and 2200GHz
Dell 3GHz HT

That's great thanks!

 

[phicks]

Originally posted by: Insidious

Originally posted by: phicks
Don't think I will ever learn how to post here.

practice, practice, practice

:beer: and a to keep your strength up.

-Sid

Those are always appreciated

 

[Rattledagger]

Originally posted by: kb3edk
I think the ultimate solution to the points inequities will be when F@H moves over to BOINC... when that happens I'm going to be one of the first to switch! I wonder if the cutover is taking so long in part because of the traditional Stanford/Berkeley rivalry...

Folding@home isn't moving to BOINC, they're just planning on adding this as an option, just like they're having a Google-client-option.

If they haven't changed their plans resently, they're aiming on only supplying "timeless" work, but atleast during the beta if they don't have any available you'll get "normal" wu.

Crediting should be the same folding-points as always, added to the normal folding-stats. But, usernames under BOINC should be unique, meaning anyone that's previously run Folding@home and want to test-out the BOINC-version must find themselves a new username...

They're also going to export normal BOINC-stats, when they'll landed on a conversion-factor from folding-points to Cobblestones.


Anyway, there's still some bugs that needs fixing...

 

[GLeeM]

Welcome to the F@H TeAm, TA_TheReaper, Echonic, jenus. and saladami If you have any questions or need any help, just ask.

Congratulations to the Milestone Makers!

Nice races guys

Thanks Adam

Thanks Rattledagger for the excelent explanation! I think they will be surprised how fast the results get sent in and how many will crunch F@H on BOINC!

@Slider76
Are you using the v5 client? It will send to a special Collection Server if the server you got the WU from is down. If you change to the new v5 client, make a copy of your folding directory, if I remember right v5 changes the queue structure and may mess up the unsent WUs.

@xbassman
There is a program that can monitor over IP. Check Sids link to third party programs.

@Freewolf
They have gotten better over there, no really! After showing how they were hurting The Projects Good Name.

 

[Scott66]

Slider76
Looks like F@H gave you credit for the 2 missing WU's - a whole 4 points. I was checking to see if I will be able to catch you. If it keeps up like it is now I will be about a week too late.
I noticed it said you completed 2 WU's at 9:00 but only gave you a couple of points each

 

[Slider76]

Gleem, yeah i'm running v5 but it won't send to the collection server either.

Scott, nah thats a different problem. I restarted pc but forgot i had f@h as a service, so it was running twice. i've turned in the 58 pointer, and its given me credit for it. but i still have a ~360 pointer sitting in my cue, that is finished.