F@H: Stats and Trends

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Welcome our newest members: Occultist and Bob Johnson! :beer:

User Milestones In Past 7 Days
User Name Points Milestone
Mark_F_Williams 200,000
GimpyDaHoundDog 160,000
Rebel_Alliance 120,000
Electrode 90,000
mytime34 60,000
kravahn 60,000
Overkiller 50,000
TackleDummy 40,000
Bob_Bobson 40,000
buddry 30,000
PeruvianHighlander 30,000
wbresson 30,000
maluman 30,000
mmaresko 30,000
Jeff_Wegher 20,000
lmadern 10,000
Christian_Diepold 10,000
daniels25143 10,000
whatisthematr1x 10,000
metalsdude 10,000
Moltres 5,000
natethegreat 5,000
dmklinux 5,000
airmcmonky 1,000
chemzen 1,000
AdamDuritz99 1,000
soni 1,000

Congrats to all of you :thumbsup:

We hit a huge high recently, pulling in 55,414 points in one day. Our average per day is waaaay up. The average is still lower than OCC which recently passed us, but it's high enough to put 4 teams within our grasp. We have one team behind us gunning for us which has an average PPD even higher than OCC, well over 60k PPD. They are, however, over 3 million points behind, so we will probably pass a few people before they catch up. Our overall rank could go up very soon, like within 2 weeks.

We have around 170 active daily users. If everyone was using just one PC, we'd be doing really good. However, we have had almost 800 active PC's in the last 2 months, so we should be getting 3x the PPD we get now. Anyone not running big work units yet and want to know how, feel free to ask, we can show you how.

Folding@Home has published results from studying the p53 tumor surpressor. As far as they know, it's the "first peer-reviewed results froma distributed computing project related to cancer". Find the paper here.

Until Hyperfocal returns, I'll try to keep this up. If there is anything else you'd like to see in this post, let me know. I'll add a link to the new FAQ in my sig once that is done.
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Thanks Malak!

I got my Athlon 64 up to 2.6GHz today, that should start ripping through some WUs shortly.
:beer:
 

Gravity

Diamond Member
Mar 21, 2003
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Thanks malak!

I'd like to be amongst the milestone makers.

I know I don't generate many points.

Maybe if I defrag my HD I'll have enough to be on the list?

Keep folding!!
 

natethegreat

Senior member
Dec 5, 2004
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Mmmmmm... stats:D

Keep up the good work Malak:thumbsup:

:cookie::cookie::cookie:'s To all the MM's it's too early for :beer::beer::beer:
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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Nice summary. Put in a link to the official stats page so users could look up their individual stats and it would be near perfect.

On big workunits, I have two comments. First, some people's computers just can't handle them. One of my computers is an Athlon 750, no chance of running them there.

Secondly, I'm having a problem with my main computer (Athlon 2300 -or so, 512 MB memory, Win2k). I had it set to run big units. A while back a crisis with another computer caused me to temporarily remove one RAM stick (reducing the RAM to 256 MB). After the warranty replacement (Crucial is GREAT) I went back to 512 MB, but I can't seem to get big units anymore, no matter how I configure it. I'm running the graphical version (5.00), it's set to accept big units, and I'm running with the -forceasm tag. Any help would be appreciated.
 

Pokey

Platinum Member
Oct 20, 1999
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Thanks Malak. :D

Welcome to the new members. :D

Congratulations to the MM's. :cool:
 

kyparrish

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2003
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right now, my rig is a barton 3200+ w/ 256megs of PC2700 (running at 166mhz...memory doesn't overclock well)...

is 512mb a minimum for running the big WU's?
 

BlackMountainCow

Diamond Member
May 28, 2003
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I don't think that you have to have 512 MB of RAM. It's just that these big WUs take from 100 to 140 MB of RAM just for the folding. So after your windows is loaded, some background programs and a big WU you RAM is pretty much full and your system isn't usable for anything like gaming anymore. Writing a letter though should be fine. So if that's adedicated cruncher without gaming or vide creation, those big WUs should be fine for you!

:beer::D:beer:
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: Thump553
Nice summary. Put in a link to the official stats page so users could look up their individual stats and it would be near perfect.

If you follow the stats link in my sig, and then click on team user list, you can find yourself in there. It'll tell you your points, how many ranks in the team you've gone up in the past week, your average PPD, etc etc.
 

Markfw

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May 16, 2002
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whats with the new big WU's ??? (some of them) I now have my second one that has an ETA of 4 days on an Athlon64 3000+ at 2.1 ghz !!! 1 hour and 20 minutes per step !!!
 

Insidious

Diamond Member
Oct 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Markfw900
whats with the new big WU's ??? (some of them) I now have my second one that has an ETA of 4 days on an Athlon64 3000+ at 2.1 ghz !!! 1 hour and 20 minutes per step !!!

Make sure when you check your PPD stats, the computer hasn't been used for anything else lately. I got a scare like that a while back, but then found my son had been using LimeWire..... I usually check in the morning when my computers have been 'dedicated' overnight.

Thanks to malak for your great stats. I enjoy your comments and feel very connected after finding your posts........ Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:

my last couple WUs have been 1475 which is only worth 364 points, but still yield PPD of 210+ (same as with the 600 point big units) :D
I'm glad they're coming out with more of them... love the variety!

-Sid
 

Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
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First, ALL of my PC's do NOTHING but F@H, (except my sons, but I don't even check the process on that one). Here is some of the log:
[01:54:15] Entering M.D.
[01:54:37] (Starting from checkpoint)
[01:54:37] Protein: p1135_RIBO_FSpeptide_HEL
[01:54:37]
[01:54:37] Writing local files
[01:54:38] Completed 208572 out of 250000 steps (83)
[02:48:55] Writing local files
[02:48:55] Completed 210000 out of 250000 steps (84)
[04:23:52] Writing local files
[04:23:52] Completed 212500 out of 250000 steps (85)
[05:58:46] Writing local files
[05:58:46] Completed 215000 out of 250000 steps (86)
[07:33:34] Writing local files
[07:33:34] Completed 217500 out of 250000 steps (87)
[09:08:28] Writing local files
[09:08:28] Completed 220000 out of 250000 steps (88)
[10:43:21] Writing local files
[10:43:22] Completed 222500 out of 250000 steps (89)
[12:18:14] Writing local files
[12:18:14] Completed 225000 out of 250000 steps (90)
[13:53:00] Writing local files
[13:53:00] Completed 227500 out of 250000 steps (91)
[15:29:16] Writing local files
[15:29:16] Completed 230000 out of 250000 steps (92)
[17:05:00] Writing local files
[17:05:00] Completed 232500 out of 250000 steps (93)
[18:40:51] Writing local files
[18:40:51] Completed 235000 out of 250000 steps (94)
[20:19:29] Writing local files
[20:19:29] Completed 237500 out of 250000 steps (95)

Actually, thats not true, my dullie I use for games at times, and I encode with it once in a while, but these big WU's are on dedicated machines that don;t even have any other software loaded (except the lan party computers, and then I turn OFF F@H)....
 

Insidious

Diamond Member
Oct 25, 2001
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Looks like you are doing about 35 minutes per step..... I do 39 here (2500+ Barton @ 2125)

I think you're looking about right.... don't see how you got a completion time of 4 days though (I think you might have miscalculated that)? Mine are about 2 1/2 days and I am slower than you are showing in this log.

-Sid

(I think you're fine)

excerpt from my logs:

[01:39:51] Preparing to commence simulation
[01:39:51] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on.
[01:39:51] - Not checking prior termination.
[01:40:05] - Expanded 2911483 -> 16166417 (decompressed 555.2 percent)
[01:40:06]
[01:40:06] Project: 1140 (Run 121, Clone 50, Gen 0)
[01:40:06]
[01:40:07] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[01:40:07] Entering M.D.
[01:40:30] (Starting from checkpoint)
[01:40:30] Protein: p1140_RIBO_FSpeptide_EXT_nospring
[01:40:30]
[01:40:30] Writing local files
[01:40:30] Completed 21832 out of 250000 steps (9)
[01:40:37] Extra SSE boost OK.
[01:51:43] Writing local files
[01:51:44] Completed 22500 out of 250000 steps (9)
[02:30:58] Writing local files
[02:30:58] Completed 25000 out of 250000 steps (10)
[03:10:06] Writing local files
[03:10:06] Completed 27500 out of 250000 steps (11)
[03:49:53] Writing local files
[03:49:53] Completed 30000 out of 250000 steps (12)
[04:29:18] Writing local files
[04:29:18] Completed 32500 out of 250000 steps (13)


edit: OOPS, I see I have to look at your hours and minutes.... you are showing (ouch) more like an hour and 35 minutes..... that IS borked up....

I suggest looking for what process(es) are competing for your cycles... spyware, virus, TSR application you have forgotten you loaded... etc...


 

Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
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Well, accoring to taks manager, in the last 20 actual hours this machine has been up, 20 hours cpu has been taken by FAHcore_78, and 34 seconds to firefox (second place). I don't think anything else is running, and this is on MULTIPLE machines with the same stats....
Here is from my Opteron Duallie:
[01:49:26] Entering M.D.
[01:49:49] (Starting from checkpoint)
[01:49:49] Protein: p1141_RIBO_FSpeptide_HEL_nospring
[01:49:49]
[01:49:49] Writing local files
[01:49:49] Completed 166229 out of 250000 steps (66)
[02:33:23] Writing local files
[02:33:23] Completed 167500 out of 250000 steps (67)
[04:35:01] Writing local files
[04:35:01] Completed 170000 out of 250000 steps (68)
[06:30:47] Writing local files
[06:30:47] Completed 172500 out of 250000 steps (69)
[07:54:19] Writing local files
[07:54:19] Completed 175000 out of 250000 steps (70)
[09:17:50] Writing local files
[09:17:50] Completed 177500 out of 250000 steps (71)
[10:41:47] Writing local files
[10:41:47] Completed 180000 out of 250000 steps (72)
[12:05:15] Writing local files
[12:05:15] Completed 182500 out of 250000 steps (73)
[13:28:46] Writing local files
[13:28:46] Completed 185000 out of 250000 steps (74)
[14:52:19] Writing local files
[14:52:19] Completed 187500 out of 250000 steps (75)
[16:15:51] Writing local files
[16:15:52] Completed 190000 out of 250000 steps (76)
[17:39:23] Writing local files
[17:39:23] Completed 192500 out of 250000 steps (77)
[19:02:54] Writing local files
[19:02:54] Completed 195000 out of 250000 steps (78)
[20:26:29] Writing local files
[20:26:29] Completed 197500 out of 250000 steps (79)

And second place is firefox on this box, but 8 minutes, since I use that as my primary browser, and 18:20:46 for FAHcore_78.

Look here
 

Pokey

Platinum Member
Oct 20, 1999
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Markfw900 Ditto what sid said. I have a Mobile P4 3.0GHz (w/o Hyperthreading) and 512MB ram that is doing 35 min per frame on the big WU's. It sounds like you might have something else going on that is cutting into your time.
 

Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
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OK< I have 12 computers. I have big WU's on 10 of them. 8 of the 10 do 30 min/frame. Right now the two above have DOCUMENTED cpu time being used ONLY by F@H. One case is the duallies, and with the same install/stuff running the cpu0 core (used most of the time) is doing 30min/frame and the other cpu is doing 1 hr 30 min/frame. Do I need to upload a picture of task manager ??
NOTHING ELSE IS TAKING THE CYCLES !!!!! THEY ARE ALL ACCOUNTED FOR !!!

These are just monster units, and I wanted to know who else has seen them....

Look at this !!!!

Edit, BTW that task manager is sorted by cpu time, and has only been powered up for about 19 hours...

Here is another one. This one came up by itself after a power outage yesterday, thus the 4 hours idle till I got home (killed my average loosing 12 boxes for 6 hours)
This is an Athlon64 3000 @2.1
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Hmm, it's still same frames, same points, everything. Don't think it's the work unit. Check the affinity of the cores to make sure they are each on a different cpu.
 

Insidious

Diamond Member
Oct 25, 2001
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I've seen them. the 1140 protien is the one I was describing my performance on. However, 1141 has performed the same when it has crunched on my machine. (fahlog.txt doesn't go back to when I did that one)

I understand that your crunchers are dedicated and I understand you have every indication that there is no process getting in the way of your crunching.

We are only trying to help you when we say that there is something amiss for that rig to take 1:35 per step on that work unit.

I know nothing about dual cpu setups and only wish I could help, but maybe it would be worthwhile to try only a single instance of FAH and see what it can do. With two instances at 95 minutes per step when you are running as is, you might see a PPD increase if you only run one instance at 35 minutes per step (since your effective speed is 47 minutes per step if you consider you are crunching two WUs)

-Sid

(edited for clarity)
 

Markfw

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May 16, 2002
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Thanks for the replies. If You have any suggestions, please let me know. And I have been doing this for 6 months on these machines, and yes they are working on the duallie on different cores (hence the 18:35 times two in 19 hours elapsed) This just started happening ON THREE DIFFERENT BOXES within the last 3 days !!!
 

Insidious

Diamond Member
Oct 25, 2001
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I have one last idea!

I just checked my resources here and found this

With only windowsXP, my browser and ONE large WU folding I am comitting nearly 400MB of RAM.

It might be that 512 is borderline for two of them at once.

Maybe configure one instance of FAH to accept large packets (>5MB) and the other, tell it NO to that question.

Beyond this... I'm stumped :confused:

I hope it works for you.

-Sid
 

Markfw

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May 16, 2002
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Only oneof the three computers has two instances, the dually, and that one has 2 GIG of ram. The other two are an Athlon64 3000@2,1 and an XP2600 at stock. 2 gig for the duallie, and 512 for the other two. You can see my memory usage on the screen shots.
 

MDE

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Try stopping the clients and delete the fahcore_##.exe files, maybe one got corrupted. My HT 3.2C is getting extremely sluggish on the WUs as well, and it's got nothing running on it but F@H. It's on 3 and 6 hours per frame per instance.