F@H questions

[bugsysiegel]

Just downloaded the console F@H app, it didn't ask me for any info before running, how does it know who I am, and what team I am playing for? Also, once it runs, how do i know it's crunching, at least the seti app had a status bar.

TIA for any help.

BTW, dumped S@H, got tired of the proxy issues and speed issues at Berkely.

I'm currently crunching with an Athalon 1.0 GHz and a PIII 900 MHz, should have two new machines online soon, both HP LXR's, one with 1 P-Pro @ 200 MHz and one with quad P-Pros @ 200 MHz each. *That* should do a little dent in the leaders distance! I hope....

 

[bugsysiegel]

One question answered, just seen a message, 1 frame finished, in the DOS window. But I'm still stumped on the logging in and team issues. Thanks!

 

[Poof]

When you started the client for the first time, it should have asked you to insert that info... Perhaps you skipped through it somehow? The default username is "anonymous" and you may have accidently hit <enter> throughout the entire setup without realizing it, picking the defaults along the way.

You might want to create a new directory, copy the text client version in there, and try again. There will be a question about what username to use and the team number. TA is team #198 and stats are here.

[EDIT: Oh and forget using the 200Mhz processors. There IS a time limit for getting results turned back in due to the way WUs are created (from previous results). About the slowest that can be used is a 300 - 333Mhz machine]

 

[bugsysiegel]

Copied the console program to another directory, fired it up, and it went straight to work. The GUI interface asks for team name and user info, but the console interface does not. Seems to me that the simple dos console would be able to crunch faster since, like the seti command line interface, it doesn't have to screw around with graphics and such.

As for the 200 MHz processors, I believe that 2-4 cpu's running in SMP will be able to succesfully complete the process prior to the time out the Folding sets. Will the "benchmark" that Folding runs when initializing advise me if it feels that it will not be able to complete the WU's in time?

Thanks for the info.

Bugsy

 

[Poof]

Copied the console program to another directory, fired it up, and it went straight to work. The GUI interface asks for team name and user info, but the console interface does not.

Are you running the correct proggy?

Seems to me that the simple dos console would be able to crunch faster since, like the seti command line interface, it doesn't have to screw around with graphics and such.

True.

As for the 200 MHz processors, I believe that 2-4 cpu's running in SMP will be able to succesfully complete the process prior to the time out the Folding sets.

Wha??? You think your box is a Beowulf cluster or something? Seriously, the client is NOT made to run across all the processors to somehow complete the process faster. You can put 1 separate process on each processor if you want. See the FAQ about this here.

And I assure you that a 200Mhz won't finish a WU before the 72 hour cut-off (if that is in fact still in effect - there had been some talk to extend it out to a week, but I'm not sure if that was implemented yet, and the cut-off is even shorter depending on which protein you get). More on that here.

Will the "benchmark" that Folding runs when initializing advise me if it feels that it will not be able to complete the WU's in time?

What you see in that screen is not a processor benchmarking in the manner that you think... It's more of an internal program thing.

[EDIT: What is the executable name that you are running for the console?]

 

[bugsysiegel]

Ahhh, I see now. It is slowly becoming clearer. Thanks again for your help!

 

[neovan]

mine goes through the same thing

how are you getting this bugsysiegel?

mine just goes straight to the dos screen and doesn't ask for any info

 

[Poof]

Guys - do this with the text console:

fah2console -config

Problem will hopefully be solved.

 

[osage]

I lost 3 WU, with the console mode, didn't ask for any info so the WUs went to no team. sucks.....

I'll try fah2console -config.

I just switched to console mode cause I thought it would be faster.

 

[osage]

fah2console -config............didn't do anything for me........where are you entering this ?

when the console is running it won't recognize any key entries, tried it from the RUN prompt and it didn't works there either.

 

[Poof]

*Stop any processing*, open a DOS prompt, change to the folding directory, and type that command.

You can manually edit the client.cfg file, but it might be easier for you if you configure it from scratch...

 

[bugsysiegel]

That did the trick for running the console. Thanks a million Poof! One last question, do we need to run our results through a proxy, or will having the team number in there do the trick for having results credited to TeamAnand?

 

[Poof]

Having that #198 in there should do it. They update the stats every couple hours so give it some time to finally start registering at the stats page. No need for a proxy... Unfortunately there's no caching...

Glad you got it going though and fold on!!!!!!! Especially since narzy just challenged some team to a race!!!

 

[RustyNale]

Another question for you Poof, I installed the text version, entered my name and TeAm in the console config, started the program working. In task manager (I'm running win2k pro) it shows it running, but when I close the dos window, task manager shows it as stopping--process dissappears from the process screen. Am I doing something wrong here? Note: I'm still running Seti@home at the same time...does this matter?

Go TeAm Go!

 

[Poof]

In task manager (I'm running win2k pro) it shows it running, but when I close the dos window, task manager shows it as stopping--process dissappears from the process screen. Am I doing something wrong here?

Hmmm.... need some coffee???

Note what you wrote - "when I close the dos window"... Are you thinking "minimizing" or are you literally "closing" it??? If you're minimizing and the process disappears, there's something odd... But if you're "closing" it.... *ahem*.... Whaddya think is gonna happen???????????

 

[RustyNale]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm..coffeeeeeeee

Sigh, I was thinking that it was like the cli version of seti, it would run in the background...which means that yes, it has to stay open to run, which means that whenever I reboot I'll have to restart it...ugh. Think maybe I'll run the screensaver version instead...Thanks for the "eye-opener"

 

[Poof]

LOL RustyNale!!!!!!!!!!

Just get something like Firedaemon and start it as a service at boot! No muss, no fuss, no window.

[EDIT: Here is a link for FireDaemon. ]

 

[RustyNale]

Thanks, Poof , I'll have another stupid question for 10 points : What impact do folding@home, seti, and the such have on online gaming? Is it better to shut them down during the game, or does the game take priority while being played and the dc projects take a back seat during that time? ( which should be the case, yes?) I'm asking as I'm going to get NWN when it comes out and plan on playing/hosting games with some buds..

 

[ProviaFan]

<< Thanks, Poof , I'll have another stupid question for 10 points : What impact do <a href="mailto:folding@home">folding@home</A>, seti, and the such have on online gaming? Is it better to shut them down during the game, or does the game take priority while being played and the dc projects take a back seat during that time? ( which should be the case, yes?) I'm asking as I'm going to get NWN when it comes out and plan on playing/hosting games with some buds.. >>


The distributed computing programs tell Windows to run them at low priority, so they automatically get put on the back burner when you run a game. The only situation in which it might slow you down is if you are running a DC program (like SETI, and F@H used to use a lot of RAM, but I haven't tried the new version so I dunno about it) that uses a lot of RAM, and you're computer is limited by 128MB of ram or less. In that case you would be better off to shut the DC program down while playing your game.

 

[RustyNale]

Thanks jliechty, pretty much what I thought, but figured it doesn't hurt to make sure. I'm running 512mb ram, so I've got tons to spare for gaming

 

[Poof]

Yeah - of all the ones that I have run while playing UT, SETI is sortof the only one that will impact me, ie., frame rate goes down and I'll get stuttering, etc.. In some instances, SETI has been known to impact the SBLive cards too! The others seem to run more in the background than SETI.

I think with all these projects, YMMV.

 

[osage]

Thanks Poof, I got it working now.

no more wasted WUs

 

[Poof]

YAY!!!!