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F@H: New Windows SMP client released!

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Foxery

Golden Member
Snippets from the announcement:

The v6.22beta client does support service mode; we hope to have a howto available shortly.

As with the Linux client, you *must* run the client with -smp if you want SMP mode. Otherwise you get a very nice 6.22beta uniprocessor client. (And switching back and forth in the middle of a WU can trash your WU, unfortunately.)

We have posted files with the install setup for either Deino MPI or MPICH. Deino has been more stable, but we don't have 64-bit support at this time. MPICH will support either 32-bit or 64-bit Windows.

Thanks for testing!

PS The current 5.9x clients expire on August 2, 2008. The new 6.22beta clients are good through February 2, 2009. So this week is a good time to upgrade.

Official Thread @ Foldingforum.org
Beta/High Performance download page
 
Only in single-CPU mode - and there will be a regular uniprocessor client this week anyway. A machine that old is way beyond making SMP deadlines.
 
Hmm. Folks with a high number of machines and/or a low amount of patience may want to wait a few days before making the jump to see if they work out some more kinks. The Deino version, at least, is much slower on my WinXP system. I may test the MPI executable later to see if it makes a difference.
 
Well I downloaded the new version and it appears that it will take 13 hours as opposed to 23-24+ hours from the older version. Here is a Snapshot of the Older 5.04 version. And here is a snapshot of the 6.22 beta client. Seems to have doubled in productivity🙂. I will give it more time but as for now its just crankin compaired to the older one. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Well I downloaded the new version and it appears that it will take 13 hours as opposed to 23-24+ hours from the older version. Here is a Snapshot of the Older 5.04 version. And here is a snapshot of the 6.22 beta client. Seems to have doubled in productivity🙂. I will give it more time but as for now its just crankin compaired to the older one. :thumbsup:
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Woah, that's pretty ridiculous.

Wait, what? Are you not running the SMP client? 200 ppd is a bit low, unless I'm looking in the wrong area.
 
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Well I downloaded the new version and it appears that it will take 13 hours as opposed to 23-24+ hours from the older version. Here is a Snapshot of the Older 5.04 version. And here is a snapshot of the 6.22 beta client. Seems to have doubled in productivity🙂. I will give it more time but as for now its just crankin compaired to the older one. :thumbsup:
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As with the Linux client, you *must* run the client with -smp if you want SMP mode.
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Read that again. You are running Uniprocessor mode. Your Q9450 with 2 SMP clients should get nearly 4000ppd.
 
Originally posted by: Cutthroat
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Well I downloaded the new version and it appears that it will take 13 hours as opposed to 23-24+ hours from the older version. Here is a Snapshot of the Older 5.04 version. And here is a snapshot of the 6.22 beta client. Seems to have doubled in productivity🙂. I will give it more time but as for now its just crankin compaired to the older one. :thumbsup:
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As with the Linux client, you *must* run the client with -smp if you want SMP mode.
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Read that again. You are running Uniprocessor mode. Your Q9450 with 2 SMP clients should get nearly 4000ppd.
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Hmmmm, been looking on how to revise this and it seems to be a bitch. Especially this early in the morning. I will try to make changes later after work. Still confused on how this really works. Any easy insite would be greatly appriciated.

 
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Well I downloaded the new version and it appears that it will take 13 hours as opposed to 23-24+ hours from the older version. Here is a Snapshot of the Older 5.04 version. And here is a snapshot of the 6.22 beta client. Seems to have doubled in productivity🙂. I will give it more time but as for now its just crankin compaired to the older one. :thumbsup:
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Er, you're running two entirely different projects in the two screenshots.

and you missed:
you *must* run the client with -smp if you want SMP mode. Otherwise you get a very nice 6.22beta uniprocessor client.
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Right now you're only using 2 CPU cores for 2 single-processor work units.

A spot of good news - kasson posted an alternate build of the Deino client which behaves much better on my system, and at normal speed. I'll edit/post back later with more details.
 
I'm getting about ten minutes per frame with the new smp. It has also slowed my gpu from 1:19 per frame to 3 minutes per frame. Task managers shows core 3 maxed and core 2 the least utilized at about 40%. Should I change the machine ID for the gpu to 2?

Keep folding,

Gravity
 
Ok, back with some info for those whose boxes slowed down. If you're using the Deino package (5.92 style, as opposed to MPICH, which is 5.91 style,) try this build instead:
kasson's alternate Deino build brought me back to normal.

Make sure you use at least these flags when running it:
-local -smp -deino -verbosity 9

Originally posted by: Gravity
I'm getting about ten minutes per frame with the new smp. It has also slowed my gpu from 1:19 per frame to 3 minutes per frame. Task managers shows core 3 maxed and core 2 the least utilized at about 40%. Should I change the machine ID for the gpu to 2?
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Not sure why it would cause your GPU client to slow down at all... It does have some new configuration options, though - see if running it with the -configonly flag and checking everything over helps.

Do you mean that your total CPU usage is no longer 100%? If so, see above.
 
cpu usage is as follows:
Core 0 55%
Core 1 65%
Core 2 40%
Core 3 100%

smp client is set to idle, do I need to set the gpu to "low"?

only flags on my smp are -smp -verbosity 9
 
Originally posted by: Gravity
cpu usage is as follows:
Core 0 55%
Core 1 65%
Core 2 40%
Core 3 100%

smp client is set to idle, do I need to set the gpu to "low"?

only flags on my smp are -smp -verbosity 9
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Yes, the GPU client always needs to be set to "Low" in a multi-core system. But if your CPU usage isn't pegged at 100% on all cores, something else is going on with the CPU client. If you're using the Deino version, try kasson's other build. If you grabbed the MPICH version, I dunno...
 
I set the GPU to Low and got better results. Down to about 1:30 per frame now on the gpu. 12 minutes per fram on the smp. Cores seem to be working a bit harder except for that darned 2 core.....like at 45%. Slacker in every bunch I guess.

Still folding,

Gravity
 
Alright. Got everything running properly and with 2 clients running on the cpu and 1 gpu all seems to be going well at approx 82% of cpu usage. Here is a snapshot of the latest details.

Foxery, Thanks for pointing my mixups out and for you help. 🙂
 
OK, here's what I tried....

d/l'd the new deino 6.22
Rebooted to stop my current 5.92 client
extracted the files from the d/l to my smp folder
ran the install.bat
made a new shortcut with "...." -smp -forceasm -advmethods -verbosity 9
(same as before but with the -smp added)
started the SMP
work unit crashed
rebooted
deleted work directory and queue file
started SMP
it d/l'd a new WU and crashed again.... (Early Unit End)

Anything obviious that I did wrong?
 
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Alright. Got everything running properly and with 2 clients running on the cpu and 1 gpu all seems to be going well at approx 82% of cpu usage. Here is a snapshot of the latest details.

Foxery, Thanks for pointing my mixups out and for you help. 🙂
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It's still finishing up the small WUs you downloaded earlier, but should grab SMP ones next. You should wake up to much higher PPD, and 100% CPU usage.

@Sid: You have the worst luck ever with F@H 😉 Try tossing -local and -deino flags into the command line just in case, even though they're supposed to be optional. After that, I can't think of anything obvious, either.
 
downloaded and installed the 6.10 beta3 client and it seems to be running according to fahmon
only using about 60% CPU with the GPU2 Client + this SMP client. how do i add targets and can someone explain to me what they do?
 
Originally posted by: Foxery
6.10b3 is not an SMP client. Follow the links in the OP for details on setting up SMP.
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nice lol. now i'm installing 6.22 beta2

btw do we still need the FAHAffinityChanger?
 
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
Originally posted by: Foxery
6.10b3 is not an SMP client. Follow the links in the OP for details on setting up SMP.
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nice lol. now i'm installing 6.22 beta2

btw do we still need the FAHAffinityChanger?
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Affinity Changer is only needed for when running two SMP clients on a quad core.
 
Well now that all the bugs have been ironed out and I have played with this program for a while, I think I have it worked out and running. I am running a "normal" client and a "small" client. Wanted to see the differance between the 2. Um..... huge. Anyway here is a looksee of my latest. Much better, don't ya think? 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Well now that all the bugs have been ironed out and I have played with this program for a while, I think I have it worked out and running. I am running a "normal" client and a "small" client. Wanted to see the differance between the 2. Um..... huge. Anyway here is a looksee of my latest. Much better, don't ya think? 🙂
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Your CPU 2 client is still NOT running a SMP WU.
 
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