F@H console client help

[Malak]

Ok so I installed the console client as a service on one of my other machines. Does that mean it automatically starts up when windows starts? Or do I still have to manually start it? How do I check the progress?

 

[Polo]

I use it in conjonction with FireDeamon. It automaticaly starts the service when the machine starts. You don't have to be logged. You can check the CPU load to be sure it is near 100%.
You can also use DCMonitor ( http://www.bluetentacle.co.uk/dcmonitor/ ) to check the progress of your WU.

 

[BlackMountainCow]

Yip, best check is if CPU usage is 100% or at least 50%, depending on HT P4 and two instances or only one / AMD and only one instance.

:beer:

 

[natethegreat]

The v5.02 counsole client doesnot need fire deamon. If you want to check it's progress use this. Just scroll down a bit for a picture. I use it and it works great! The bluetentacle thing looks awsome for people who run multiple DC projects!

Edit: Sorry, I see I didn't answer your questions If you set up v5.02 correctly it will start and begin folding when windows loads, you shouldn't need to manually start it. v5.02 comes with a FAHlog you can use to check progress(but it is just text), or there are a few monitoring apps that you candownload to check its progress. Check out this post by ProviaFan. That is where I found EMIII.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: natethegreat
The v5.02 counsole client doesnot need fire deamon. If you want to check it's progress use this. Just scroll down a bit for a picture. I use it and it works great! The bluetentacle thing looks awsome for people who run multiple DC projects!

I use and recommend F@H LogStats. Any one of the programs mentioned here will get the job done just as well - it's a matter if whether you like a standard Windows-style GUI, or whether you want some hideously ugly skinned interface instead.

Edit: Sorry, I see I didn't answer your questions If you set up v5.02 correctly it will start and begin folding when windows loads, you shouldn't need to manually start it.

And the definition of "set up correctly" means that you told it yes to install as a service, and didn't screw around in the services control panel (in computer management) afterwards. However, I'm not sure, but I don't think the client will start the service automatically right after installation, so you can either reboot to initiate the process, or go into Administrative Tools > Services and start the F@H service yourself (in which case, you only need to do that once, since it would be started automatically on the next reboot). Looking in the Task Manager for FAHCore_xx.exe that uses close to 100% of CPU time when idle is a good way to check that it's still running.

 

[natethegreat]

Originally posted by: ProviaFan

Originally posted by: natethegreat
The v5.02 counsole client doesnot need fire deamon. If you want to check it's progress use this. Just scroll down a bit for a picture. I use it and it works great! The bluetentacle thing looks awsome for people who run multiple DC projects!

I use and recommend F@H LogStats. Any one of the programs mentioned here will get the job done just as well - it's a matter if whether you like a standard Windows-style GUI, or whether you want some hideously ugly skinned interface instead.

Edit: Sorry, I see I didn't answer your questions If you set up v5.02 correctly it will start and begin folding when windows loads, you shouldn't need to manually start it.

And the definition of "set up correctly" means that you told it yes to install as a service, and didn't screw around in the services control panel (in computer management) afterwards. However, I'm not sure, but I don't think the client will start the service automatically right after installation, so you can either reboot to initiate the process, or go into Administrative Tools > Services and start the F@H service yourself (in which case, you only need to do that once, since it would be started automatically on the next reboot). Looking in the Task Manager for FAHCore_xx.exe that uses close to 100% of CPU time when idle is a good way to check that it's still running.

How come your link to F@H Logstats works in your last post but not in your "new semi-unofficial F@H Q&A thread"

Sorry for assuming that the OP just wanted to tknow if he would have to start the service again if he shut his computer off

BTW just changed over to F@H Logstats, (EMIII is ugly)

 

[GLeeM]

The GUI used to put a shortcut in the Startup folder when installed. If there is still one there, make sure you delete it if you run as a service or you will have two working on one WU and big problems.

 

[Malak]

HT P4 arrived, once I get everything installed, updated, and working properly the way I like it, I'll install 2 cli's on it. Yay!

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: malak
HT P4 arrived, once I get everything installed, updated, and working properly the way I like it, I'll install 2 cli's on it. Yay!

:thumbsup:

It'll be fun to watch your ppd go up

 

[Malak]

Ok so I run the console and it's going, but how do I make it go to the system tray and out of the taskbar? I've heard reference to trayit, is that a flag I can set? I'm running both clients right now

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: natethegreat
How come your link to F@H Logstats works in your last post but not in your "new semi-unofficial F@H Q&A thread"

Sorry for assuming that the OP just wanted to tknow if he would have to start the service again if he shut his computer off

BTW just changed over to F@H Logstats, (EMIII is ugly)

No need to apologize, I just like to make sure every base is covered, because one never knows what the original poster knows (or doesn't know).

Yes, my F@H LogStats link in the FAQ thread is broken, but I can't edit the post without all of the links getting screwed up thanks to our excellent and most highly wonderful Fusetalk bulletin board software (thanks, webmaster Jason!). :roll: :disgust:

Sometime, hopefully this weekend, I will redo that thread and bring it up to date.

 

[Malak]

It would be beneficial if someone did an up to date guide to F@H too. All of those guides seem to be pretty old.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: malak
It would be beneficial if someone did an up to date guide to F@H too. All of those guides seem to be pretty old.

I'll see what I can do this weekend...

 

[bgeh]

hmm......old dead member here........coming back to fold
so anyway, my q is........how do we configure the new v5 consoles?
and i've heard about the 600 pointer Gromacs.......how do we get them? use the -advmethods to get them like back in the 4.xx days where we used -advmethods to get the Gromacs instead of the older fahcore_65(forgot the name )?

 

[natethegreat]

I enjoyed the "All new FAQ" I'm sure another up-to-date FAQ would be very beneficial:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: Proviafan
Yes, my F@H LogStats link in the FAQ thread is broken, but I can't edit the post without all of the links getting screwed up thanks to our excellent and most highly wonderful Fusetalk bulletin board software

he blinded me with science...:music::music::music:

I didn't know that you couldn't edit you links:Q I'm pretty shure I have done it before on this forum though well anyways sorry for being a jackass(really didn't know that links can't be edited) and I would love to see another FAQ:thumbsup:

 

[Malak]

Well, 3 consoles and one GUI running. I'm curious. How does running 2 cli's on one HT P4 go faster than just one cli? How efficient is HT?

 

[BlackMountainCow]

@ malak: By about 20 to 30% is what I've read for F@H. The F@H folks say that if you want to go for good score, use two CLIs on a HT CPU, if you want to go for science, run only one and finish that one as fast as possible. But then again, ain't we all stats whores??

@pgeh

When you set up either the GUI or the CLI, it'll ask you if you also want to receive large WUs, that's all. But be aware, you have to have at least 512 MB of RAM to get them (right?) and if you have two of them running at one (HT CPU), they can easily take up to 220 MB of RAM (at least they do that on my machine). But they are very rewarding with the score, so it's definitly worth it. For the flags, most ppl still use "-forceasm -advmethods" and if you like to see what's going on the "-verbosity 9" one.


:beer:

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: natethegreat
I didn't know that you couldn't edit you links:Q I'm pretty shure I have done it before on this forum though well anyways sorry for being a jackass(really didn't know that links can't be edited) and I would love to see another FAQ:thumbsup:

You're not being troublesome at all... I'm whining about the software because there are some problems that occur that shouldn't be occurring - the post was first written on a previous version of the software, and now when I try to edit it in this version, the links are fvcked. Normally, posts made more recently can have their links edited just fine; actually, I didn't know that until just now when you pointed out the problematic link and I tried to fix it, only to find that all of the links got messed up when I tried to do the edit. The rant is about the author of this crappy software, who is a friend of Anand's, and thus gets to use the forums as his alpha and beta test grounds. :roll:

 

[GLeeM]

LATELY it helps to get the BigWUs if you don't use the -advmethods flag. With the flag you might get sent to server .128 I think it was. Does anyone know if that server has BigWUs too?

The client needs to report to FAH that the computer has at least 240MB ram (something about the way Linux reports amount of ram)

The BigWUs are worth double points.

"How does running 2 cli's on one HT P4 go faster than just one cli?"

Part of it has something to do with the long "pipeline" and "branch misprediction".
If the CPU doesn't guess correctly what it needs next, it has to send for the correct instructions. It takes a long time for those instructions to get through that long pipeline, that long time is used by the other process

 

[Malak]

I'm afraid to do bigwus on the HT p4. I have a gig of RAM, but how will this affect performance while I'm gaming? Or should I turn the consoles off while gaming?

 

[GLeeM]

Originally posted by: malak
I'm afraid to do bigwus on the HT p4. I have a gig of RAM, but how will this affect performance while I'm gaming? Or should I turn the consoles off while gaming?

Try it and see! Or try one of each.

I think it will depend on the game. My kids say some games are affected and others not at all or not much. They recently got Half Life II and haven't complained after I added another BigWU instance. Just that it takes a little longer to load.

Also, with double points for the BigWUs the client could be shut down half of the day and you would still get the same points per day The trouble is remembering to restart FAH.

 

[BlackMountainCow]

@malak: I got a P4 2.8 HT and both instances are running big 600 points WU right now. I got 1 GB of RAM and didn't even notice a difference in the loading times of Half Life II between F@H still running or not.

@GLeeM: I still use the -advmethods flag and all I get is big WUs but one time when the big WU server was down.

 

[Malak]

Ok let me get those crackin on bigwus then. Still, one of the machines can't, only 256mb RAM

 

[Malak]

So how can I make the console go to system tray instead of the taskbar?

 

[BlackMountainCow]

http://www.teamcti.com/trayit/trayit.htm

This is what use to send it there. Just takes 1 MB of RAM and is really easy to handle: just press Control and at the same time click the window of your desire to minimize --> will go straight to the tray!

:beer: