F.E.A.R. and Alcohol 120%??

FFactory0x

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Whats with all this crap i see with Fear and Alcohol 120 and anti blaxx. etc

Can anyone explain
 

Eli

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If they were to come out with alcohol that managed to be more than 100%, yes I would fear it. :p
 

Anubis

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its a form of copy protection, other games have it, you cant install.run them with programs like alachol 120% or deamon tool on your computer
anti blaxx gets you around that
 

fs5

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you use anti blaxx so that you can use alcohol 120% to mount the iso of F.E.A.R because fear has detection for virtual drives.

... I think ...
 

ViRGE

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Come on man, you know the rules. That said, here's my best explanation about the technical facts:

Copy Protection: Virtually all games implement copy protection by doing CD checks. In modern times, "CD's" are actually physically altered at the manufacturing plant so that they're not perfect, and then a scan is done by the game to find those imperfections. They can't be replicated on a CD-R, since CD-Rs are perfect.

Alcohol 120: A disc ripping/burning/virtual-drive program that specializes in dealing with copy protected discs. It can read these imperfections and the Alcohol team tries to devise ways to simulate these on CD-R's or via a virtual drive.

Virtual Drive: Basically a fake CD/DVD drive that actually reads a file on a hard drive and supplies that data to Windows in the form of what it believes is a CD/DVD. Very handy for when you want to easily backup things and run them later as if they were on a CD.

Blacklists: Because virtual drives are so powerful, copy protection mechanisms "blacklist" virtual drives and abort the game if it detects a virtual drive.

Anti-****: So the next step is to hide the fact that the virtual drive is a virtual drive, so that copy protection mechanisms think they're seeing a real CD. It's a constant war between this technology and copy protection mechanisms for the most part, since new mechanisms will figure out how to spot anti-**** and virtual drives hidden by it.
 

FFactory0x

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Thats what im saying. Is this osme kind of new Security they have in place?

Never seen this type before
 

YBS1

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Just a heads up along the same topic for anyone who might be having issues with the game. Running InCD from the Nero suite also seems to cause issues with this game. It would not install for me without disabling the startup of InCD, I don't know if this is a common issue or not for other games as I've only had InCD installed for a few days and this is the first game I've tried to install since.
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Come on man, you know the rules. That said, here's my best explanation about the technical facts:

Copy Protection: Virtually all games implement copy protection by doing CD checks. In modern times, "CD's" are actually physically altered at the manufacturing plant so that they're not perfect, and then a scan is done by the game to find those imperfections. They can't be replicated on a CD-R, since CD-Rs are perfect.

Alcohol 120: A disc ripping/burning/virtual-drive program that specializes in dealing with copy protected discs. It can read these imperfections and the Alcohol team tries to devise ways to simulate these on CD-R's or via a virtual drive.

Virtual Drive: Basically a fake CD/DVD drive that actually reads a file on a hard drive and supplies that data to Windows in the form of what it believes is a CD/DVD. Very handy for when you want to easily backup things and run them later as if they were on a CD.

Blacklists: Because virtual drives are so powerful, copy protection mechanisms "blacklist" virtual drives and abort the game if it detects a virtual drive.

Anti-****: So the next step is to hide the fact that the virtual drive is a virtual drive, so that copy protection mechanisms think they're seeing a real CD. It's a constant war between this technology and copy protection mechanisms for the most part, since new mechanisms will figure out how to spot anti-**** and virtual drives hidden by it.

wow so even if I buy a copy of the game (I have no interst in this game) and try to run it, it wouldn't work because I have daemon tools? how lame
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: dighn
wow so even if I buy a copy of the game (I have no interst in this game) and try to run it, it wouldn't work because I have daemon tools? how lame
Right, you have to uninstall D-tools first.