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WildHorse

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Must read to believe this could happen

You won't believe it!

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Edit: Also note links to other versions/coverage that differ from the OP link in some details, posted below by these two alert contributors:

Number1: "Langley Air Force Base Briefing: F-22 03-041 Stuck Canopy," by US Department of Defense in SpaceRef.com, 24Apr06. <http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=20396 >

and

her209: "Contractors Blamed for F-22A Faults," by Laura Colarusso in DefenseNews,com, 26Jun06.
<http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1891198&C=america >


Reference to other ATOT thread
 
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SVT Cobra

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Wow more fake anti-F22 propaganda. Dumbass, the flaws with that story are even stupider than the OP.


Already proven to be FAKE


Here's a novel idea, attack the argument, not the OP. Or are you just spouting off like him?
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WildHorse

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Wow more fake anti-F22 propaganda. Dumbass, the flaws with that story are even stupider than the OP.


Already proven to be FAKE
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If it is fake I'll take it down.
Please give more verifiable info, and if true I'll remove it. But I've got to leave in a few minutes so please reply soon. Thank you.
 
foghorn67

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Wow more fake anti-F22 propaganda. Dumbass, the flaws with that story are even stupider than the OP.


Already proven to be FAKE


Here's a novel idea, attack the argument, not the OP. Or are you just spouting off like him?
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Is the weekend tougher than the weekday rules?



Nah, we are grooming SVT.
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AbAbber2k

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Wow more fake anti-F22 propaganda. Dumbass, the flaws with that story are even stupider than the OP.


Already proven to be FAKE


Here's a novel idea, attack the argument, not the OP. Or are you just spouting off like him?
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WildHorse

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
http://www.pics.bbzzdd.com/beta/users/oldsmoboat/fake.jpg
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Ha! Yes, that's probably a good rule of thumb.

So if anybody knows that this F22 story is a hoax please give some verifiable input & I'll remove it. I'm definitely NOT trying to hoax anybody.

But I'm due far away & running late so if you don't show me soon, then my response will have to wait until late tonight.

edit: Or if an ATOT MOD decides it's a hoax while I'm not here to take care of it, please lock this thread & I'll take the linked article down tonight.
 
Number1

Number1

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Is this fake?

It looks prety realistic to me. Or are those pictures taken out of context?

Please post info debunking this if it's a hoax.
 
IAteYourMother

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Originally posted by: Number1
Is this fake?

It looks prety realistic to me. Or are those pictures taken out of context?

Please post info debunking this if it's a hoax.
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it's not a hoax. Just a repost, and while it's a seemingly stupid mistake, mistakes can happen.
 
Number1

Number1

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Number1
Is this fake?

It looks prety realistic to me. Or are those pictures taken out of context?

Please post info debunking this if it's a hoax.
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it's not a hoax. Just a repost, and while it's a seemingly stupid mistake, mistakes can happen.
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Thanks, a few people own an apology to Scott here. Mind you referencing the previous thread by Scott was bound to iritate a few people.




O'RLY?
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=1826890&C=america
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maddogchen

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question: for government contracts, if the manufacturer is to blame for a mistake, do they eat the costs to repair them all or does the government?
 
her209

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
question: for government contracts, if the manufacturer is to blame for a mistake, do they eat the costs to repair them all or does the government?
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It depends on if it meets specs.
 
irishScott

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: irishScott
Umm... Since when is the cockpit release tied into the computer system?
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why wouldn't it be?
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Makes no sense for it to be. Even during ejection, the process is on it's own system. Tying the cockpit release into the main computer control would be like connecting an electric window to the ABS system. No reason to do it.
 
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DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: scott

Must read to believe this could happen

You won't believe it!

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This version of the story is a hoax though, since it inflates the damage from $180K to $1M and changes the cause from loose screws to a software failure.

Next up, a cockpit screen view of a Windows BSOD as the cause :)
 
her209

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It was loose screws and not a computer failure.
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Yeah, but these are the same people who told us that Roswell was the end result of a weather balloon experiment gone wrong.

Trust No One. * X-Files music *
 
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SVT Cobra

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Scott I am sorry I called you an idiot, I just get upset about this (this type of attacking the platform and prototypes cause major set backs and delays), and I have followed it since its production and have other personal interests in it (hence my previous name).

Anyway, yes the cockpit did jam, but if you read any defense news boards you would know that that jpg that you posted is extremely exaggerated and made by someone who does not see the need for an advanced fighter platform in this day and age. Yes the stock has soared (I bought it back at 55$ ;), but they of course did develop a cockpit release switch to open it, not to mention an emergency ejection of the canopy for tarmac fire situations (it was not used in this case because there was no immediate threat to the pilot). And, as you read from the above articles it was caused by loose screws, crew cheif and pilot should have seen this.

The plane will not just drop out of the sky if a computer fails. The redundancy and backup systems of the avionics prevent this.

The last image is of a protype cockput from the early days of the F22, not even related to the article as others on boards have pointed out. No way would any images that close up be released to the public in a functional cockpit.

Also as for the "meshing problems" the F22 is already operational, and flying fine. Not to mention the lack of detail into this problem just shows it is made up.

The damage claims have also been increased. Once again, fake.
 
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SVT Cobra

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It was loose screws and not a computer failure.
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Yeah, but these are the same people who told us that Roswell was the end result of a weather balloon experiment gone wrong.

Trust No One. * X-Files music *
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The files were declassified, it was a weather balloon.
 
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