[Extremetech] Samsung: Full speed ahead for 10nm, EUV deploys at the 7nm node

[ehume]

[Extremetech] Samsung: Full speed ahead for 10nm, EUV deploys at the 7nm node

The Fab Wars, or should we say the Word Wars?

 

[Doom2pro]

[Extremetech] Samsung: Full speed ahead for 10nm, EUV deploys at the 7nm node

The Fab Wars, or should we say the Word Wars?

Sounds good... Last I had heard EUV had been pushed back yet again, this time to 5nm.

 

[ThatBuzzkiller]

Meanwhile Intel has yet to commit to using EUV ...

 

[witeken]

Meanwhile Intel has yet to commit to using EUV ...

So that's why they ordered like 15 EUV machines a year ago. Indeed doesn't really look like a commitment..

 

[Tuna-Fish]

Meanwhile Intel has yet to commit to using EUV ...

Unlike the contract fabs, Intel has no real need to describe their future plans publicly.

 

[jhu]

EUV works and has been working for a while now. However, the fabs will start using it in mass production when it makes economic sense, and not before then.

TLDR; as a consumer, who cares?

 

[Phynaz]

So that's why they ordered like 15 EUV machines a year ago. Indeed doesn't really look like a commitment..

Development.

 

[krumme]

2017 is 10nm
Ares (artemis?) and lean a35 that scores the crap out of 820 soc
And is cheap to boot
With the label Mediatek

http://www.gsmarena.com/mediatek_helio_x30_to_use_10nm_manufacturing_process-news-17985.php

 

[Arachnotronic]

2017 is 10nm
Ares (artemis?) and lean a35 that scores the crap out of 820 soc
And is cheap to boot
With the label Mediatek

http://www.gsmarena.com/mediatek_helio_x30_to_use_10nm_manufacturing_process-news-17985.php

Probably not that cheap, MediaTek is trying to move upmarket with its Helio X series. Also, I can't imagine that a 10nm Helio X30 has even taped out yet, let alone running at full performance in AnTuTu. First tape out was a few months ago and that was probably Apple.

 

[lefty2]

BTW, the reason that Samsung is using EUV for 7nm while Intel and TSMC aren't, is because Samsung's 7nm is in 2020, while TSMC's 7nm is in 2018 (too early for EUV to be ready).