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dawp

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thought we could use something a bit light hearted, so here is an article about medieval shoes with ridiculously long toes.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/medieval-europeans-pointy-shoes?utm_source=pocket-newtab
now whether I'd wear them outside a costume, probably not tho it could get interesting driving a car with shoes like these

Eventually, the English crown felt the need to intervene, in part because of the lascivious connotations that the increasingly extended toe-tips carried. “People thought the longer the toe, the more masculine the wearer,” Shawcross says. “But some people weren’t keen on that connotation.” Parliament equated wearing the shoes to public indecency, and stepped forward to put limits on a variety of racy fashions: “No person under the estate of lord, including knights, esquires, and gentlemen, to wear any gown, jacket, or coat which does not cover the genitals and buttocks. Also not to wear any shoes or boots with pikes longer than two inches. No tailor to make such a short garment, or stuffed doublet, and no shoemaker to make such pikes,” the 1463 law reads. The only other city known to have taken a stand against the shoes was Paris, which had banned them in 1368.
 

feralkid

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I'm all for it.

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cytg111

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Thats actually funny, considering how the species manifested fashion and beyond... Essentially peacocking I guess... social studies is a weird study.
 

pmv

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I was so hoping those Mexican things would turn out to in some way derive from the OP ones (perhaps a medieval Spanish tradition that lives on, kind of like Mexico's "secret Jews" that date back to the inquisition?). But, no, it seems they are a recently invented fad. They didn't go underground in response to medieval persecution, to be secretly preserved in South American communities.
 

Muse

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I have extremely wide feet. I'm pretty sure I have a lot of duck DNA. Quack! My shoes are all 4E. Pointed shoes make me wince and want to waddle off into the water...
 

trenchfoot

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must be difficult to drive a vehicle while wearing those


Not to mention going ballroom dancing.

Might it be a phallic symbol alluding to the prowess and robust nature of what the wearer is slinging sight unseen I wonder.
 

BoomerD

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I have extremely wide feet. I'm pretty sure I have a lot of duck DNA. Quack! My shoes are all 4E. Pointed shoes make me wince and want to waddle off into the water...

I also have Fred Flintstone feet...it can make buying shoes/boots that fit right very fucking difficult. I spent almost a full day in both a Red Wing store and local workwear place that sells wide boots...neither one could fit me properly. (WTF? RedWing has always been able to fit me in cases of extreme emergency.) They were never my "go to" boot...too cheaply made, but my "go to" boots (Whites) are now over $500/pair, and that's just too much money for boots to wear for yard work. I'm making do with my old pair of Whites. and a pair of New Balance hiking boots that are just -> <- much too short. My toes rub the end of the boot. (at my age, my fucking feet should NOT be growing longer!..but damn it...it seems like they are. 12 4E is just about half a size too short...and no one stocks 12-1/24E.

Anyway...as for pointed toe shoes and boots...they make those so it's easier to get the cockroaches in the corners.
 
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pmv

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I have extremely wide feet. I'm pretty sure I have a lot of duck DNA. Quack! My shoes are all 4E. Pointed shoes make me wince and want to waddle off into the water...

Do you have Greek or Egyptian feet?

I heard that Greek feet tend to widen due to the distribution of weight. I don't know if that's true or a popular myth, but it's true for me - Greek feet, have trouble finding shoes wide enough. Is that the general pattern here? No wonder the Greeks wore sandals.
 

Muse

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Do you have Greek or Egyptian feet?

I heard that Greek feet tend to widen due to the distribution of weight. I don't know if that's true or a popular myth, but it's true for me - Greek feet, have trouble finding shoes wide enough. Is that the general pattern here? No wonder the Greeks wore sandals.
I haven't had my DNA analyzed but I'm unaware of Greek influence beyond knowing that my father was pretty deep in Greek mythology! I buy New Balance shoes exclusively, have for 10-15 years, because they always have 4E sizing available and I've yet to put a pair on that doesn't seem to fit perfect immediately.
 

Muse

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I also have Fred Flintstone feet...it can make buying shoes/boots that fit right very fucking difficult. I spent almost a full day in both a Red Wing store and local workwear place that sells wide boots...neither one could fit me properly. (WTF? RedWing has always been able to fit me in cases of extreme emergency.) They were never my "go to" boot...too cheaply made, but my "go to" boots (Whites) are now over $500/pair, and that's just too much money for boots to wear for yard work. I'm making do with my old pair of Whites. and a pair of New Balance hiking boots that are just -> <- much too short. My toes rub the end of the boot. (at my age, my fucking feet should NOT be growing longer!..but damn it...it seems like they are. 12 4E is just about half a size too short...and no one stocks 12-1/24E.

Anyway...as for pointed toe shoes and boots...they make those so it's easier to get the cockroaches in the corners.
I had a factory job some years ago (20+) that required me to get some steel toed boots. I went everywhere around here and couldn't find a pair that didn't make my feet ache terribly the minute I put them on. Impossible! I found some leather work shoes that looked very like steel toed boots (but didn't have steel in the toes) that fit great. Leather high up the ankles, laces that twist across catches so it's easy to lace them up and remove them. I bought at least 4 pairs of them and still have them all! I use one for garden work and AFAIK have never polished them. Raw leather shows everywhere. They are real comfortable. The others I have shined in black or brown. I keep one pair in my car for emergency duty should the occasion arise. I have toooo many shoes! I know I can't walk into just any shoe store and find a shoe I can wear, so I hate to throw away shoes.
 

pmv

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I haven't had my DNA analyzed but I'm unaware of Greek influence beyond knowing that my father was pretty deep in Greek mythology! I buy New Balance shoes exclusively, have for 10-15 years, because they always have 4E sizing available and I've yet to put a pair on that doesn't seem to fit perfect immediately.

Ah, you don't need DNA, you just need to check if your 'big' toe is shorter than the second-toe. Greek feet have the second toe further forward than the 'big toe'. The ancient Greeks thought that was somehow aesthetically-desirable, hence they made all their statues like that. I would assume they thought it was better because they had feet like that, being Greco-centric. In practice it seems to me it just makes shoes fit less well.
 

BoomerD

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Ah, you don't need DNA, you just need to check if your 'big' toe is shorter than the second-toe. Greek feet have the second toe further forward than the 'big toe'. The ancient Greeks thought that was somehow aesthetically-desirable, hence they made all their statues like that. I would assume they thought it was better because they had feet like that, being Greco-centric. In practice it seems to me it just makes shoes fit less well.


Damn...my second toe is significantly longer than my big toe...

Anyway...why the fuck is this thread in P&N?