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Extreme Outervision, New nVidia dGPU, and 30-mo-old Seasonic 750W X

Some of our colleagues have been urging me to dump my eVGA GTX 570 graphics card -- which is running on my OC'd i7-2600K system, 2HDDs and 1SSD, and a Hauppauge PCI-E TV-tuner card. I'm currently running two monitors (desk monitor and AVR/HDTV) -- one on the iGPU and the other on the dGPU. System is in "iGPU" mode for purpose of the switchable Lucid software. I intend to likely add a second model likely connected to iGPU.

I've seen the Tom's-HW January 2014 review of graphics cards "price-to-performance" evaluation. I think I'm starting to gravitate toward an eVGA (or possibly ASUS or Gigabyte) GTX 770. I think I can benefit from 4GB of vRAM instead of 2GB. And according to Tom's I don't see a reason to spend so much more on a 780 card for the fps gains. I certainly don't see a need to spend $1,000+ on the forthcoming release of a GTX 790 dual-GPU.

When I built this system in 2011 July, I gave it a Seasonic 750W "X" series "Gold" modular PSU. Very little has changed with this system since it was initially OC'd to 4.6 (now recently stable at 4.7). I've not had any "perceptions" that the PSU is functioning at any reduced level than it was initially, but capacitor-aging is a fact of life. Stability tests show that the OC settings have only need some trimming as decreases to VCCIO and "vPLL" -- amounting to overall delta of -1.5V. CPU vCORE has been bumped up by about 4 to 5mV -- accounting for a more parsimonious choice during the fall, 2011 overclocking project and a long-standing but very, very infrequent instability at EIST idle.

It appears this infrequent instability has been eliminated, for whichever one or more reasons I pursued -- as much for the reduction of vPLL as for the vCORE bump after recent stress-test failure between 35 and 50 iterations of LinX. The 5mV increase in VCORE likely compensates for pulling back from other settings that would "tone-up" wattage provision to the processor. The problem may even have been due to buggy early-revision driver software. I will know for sure in about another two weeks, but significant improvements in the system since these recent tweaks give me confidence.

The Seasonic -- according to spec -- provides 62A on the 12V rail. The monitoring software and BIOS have never showed any changes in readings of 12.1+V, 5.04V and 3.36V respectively.

The GTX 570 had used more power according to Outervision Calculator results than will a GTX 770, but the calculator suggests between 711W and 761W for the latter. I probably underestimated the overclock possibility for this system when I chose the PSU. The results reflect the "90% TDP" and "100% peak load" settings for the calculator. There is some margin of "slop" in my other choices, wanting to provide for future addition of perhaps one HDD, optical drive or PCI card.

There seems to be an opinion that the EO calculator overestimates the needed PSU spec, or that I might actually run two 760 GTX cards in SLI on a 650W PSU when the 800+ might be recommended by the calculator. I just want to be sure that occasional "shake-down" stress-tests will not reflect an inadequate PSU when I want to isolate any other problems. I can't predict the future on that matter, but I want to limit my uncertainties.


I also accounted for "20% capacitor aging" factor. I'm inclined to think this 30-mo-old PSU is "good to go" for the video card upgrade. The UPS software shows that the total wattage draw for the system seldom exceeds 250W -- usually sitting at more around 150W. The upper value would likely reflect stress-tests under my own customization.

If anyone was able to read this far without closing a thread by "Bonzai-Blabbermouth," do ya got any thoughts or insights on this? I am about to purchase the new GTX 770, probably plan on building another system next year, and want to bundle my purchases of items needed right now to take advantage of promotional payment arrangements. For the next system, I might spring for an 850W Seasonic or something as good -- certainly always looking for "a price." But I don't really want to buy it now.
 
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I don't think it's possible for any single GTX 770 system to pull more than 600W. I'm not sure where you are getting 711-761W from, but that's just way too much overkill, it's probably an online calculator which has to factor in the scam and crap PSUs. Even an overvolted/OCed 780Ti is unlikely to have such high system power consumption.

You have a high quality PSU which is less than 3 years old. It's got plenty of life left. Unless you are running any sort of SLI setup with GTX 770 or higher, there is no reason to be concerned.

Even with the GTX 770, you're still gonna be using less than 50% of the PSUs max output, so even if you factor in the capacitor aging your PSU will be more than sufficient.
 
I don't think it's possible for any single GTX 770 system to pull more than 600W. I'm not sure where you are getting 711-761W from, but that's just way too much overkill, it's probably an online calculator which has to factor in the scam and crap PSUs. Even an overvolted/OCed 780Ti is unlikely to have such high system power consumption.

You have a high quality PSU which is less than 3 years old. It's got plenty of life left. Unless you are running any sort of SLI setup with GTX 770 or higher, there is no reason to be concerned.

Even with the GTX 770, you're still gonna be using less than 50% of the PSUs max output, so even if you factor in the capacitor aging your PSU will be more than sufficient.

Thanks, nwo. These days, for posting so much here, I'm too easy to burden others with my little uncertainties and frets, but I do it.

There are various reasons I have my iGPU HD3000 "in use" and available to Lucid Virtu on demand with this rig. The take I got from reviews of the SW coordinating iGPU and dGPU left me concluding it was a breakeven use of resources, but going to iGPU mode suddenly made my configuration seem faster. I'm planning to add a third monitor, which I can't do with the GTX 570 alone, and the 570 GTX doesn't have enough memory for my liking.

So I've thought about SLI, given the prices I can find for these cards -- even so about $400+ each. "iGPU mode" with Lucid doesn't work with SLI. I think I'd rather do it this way and forego the extra vid-card investment. Still, I have to wonder whether the PSU could handle two. The calculator puts the requirement above 800W. You support my own thinking that the calculator vastly overestimates the requirement.

So . . . that's it . . . . I'm gonna decide on a choice of the GTX 770 4GB today, and put in my order.
 
Even if you were to SLI, I want to say you will be safe with the PSU you have now. But capacitor aging might become an issue later on if you overclock and overvolt both cards. At up to 250W per card, you would be cutting it pretty close with your 750W PSU.

I would say this link is pretty close to the realistic estimates, although it does seem to overestimate by about 50-100W on average:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

I have no issues running 2x7870 on my eVGA 500B and an OCed 3570k @ 4.2GHz.

My crappy refurb Corsair TX 750 (v1 80+) has no trouble powering an OCed 7970 + 7950 (power draw is comparable to GTX 770 SLI) and i7 4770k. Your PSU can run laps around my Corsair TX 750.

Let me help with some GTX 770 suggestions... eVGA, eVGA, or eVGA 😉 They usually make half a dozen different versions of the same card so you will have a real dilemma finding the perfect match.
 
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