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Extreme Makeover being sued...

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Damned - those kids are suing the parents? If the above link is correct, the parents died, leaving the kids with noting. A friend's family let them move in and they squeezed all these people into a little house...how inconsiderate!
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
You guys are all blaming the children.

Isn't it just as likely that the couple who took in the children took advantage of them by creating a sob story that ABC would buy into, getting a free mansion plus goodies, and then driving the children away right before the episode aired on TV?

The housing market is insane right now. What do you think the couple would get for a custom built 9 bedroom mansion? $900k? $1 million+?

Money does crazy things to people.


I think the fight should only be with the Couple and not ABC.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Yes.
Ok now. Answer these:
1) What makes it bad?
2) What makes it exploitation?
3) What makes the people poor? Many non-poor families have been helped.

Edit: Well essentially they're throwing a trinket out to those they know will readily snap it up, and selling the footage of it for millions. You obviously see nothing wrong with it. While I'm not claiming it should be illegal or anything, it certainly does leave a bad taste in my mouth. And I don't think there's any argument that it's nigh-unwatchable TV.

Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
I don't see a point in further discussion, we obviously don't see eye to eye on this.
But that is why we need further discussion. So we can at least understand each other's points. We don't have to agree, but I still fail to see your arguement.

How is painting a children's hospital exploiting a needy family for ratings?

How is building a homeless shelter (that is oriented to getting them shelter while finding them jobs) exploitation?

How are all these families considered poor? They have incomes and houses so they are doing ok financially. Just some sob-story happened to the family. A child has autism, a child is alergic to the sun, a spouse has passed away, etc. Being poor isn't a criteria. Having a sob story is.

EEHM is a mix of Tech TV, a lifetime original movie, and Trading Spaces. You might not like the mix. But it certainly doesn't match your description of a reality show that exploits the poor.

That's all I have to say. Have a great day.

 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
I don't see a point in further discussion, we obviously don't see eye to eye on this.
But that is why we need further discussion. So we can at least understand each other's points. We don't have to agree, but I still fail to see your arguement.

How is painting a children's hospital exploiting a needy family for ratings?

How is building a homeless shelter (that is oriented to getting them shelter while finding them jobs) exploitation?

How are all these families considered poor? They have incomes and houses so they are doing ok financially. Just some sob-story happened to the family. A child has autism, a child is alergic to the sun, a spouse has passed away, etc. Being poor isn't a criteria. Having a sob story is.

EEHM is a mix of Tech TV, a lifetime original movie, and Trading Spaces. You might not like the mix. But it certainly doesn't match your description of a reality show that exploits the poor.

That's all I have to say. Have a great day.

See my edit.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: halik
haha im sure ABC made them sign contract that exactly spells out what the get. A house.
The contract is a little strange. If ABC builds a million dollar house for a family in need, then the family must pay income tax on it. That would wipe out the needy family many times over. Thus, ABC doesn't give anyone a house.

Instead, ABC leases the house from the family for one week. In the lease contract, the home owner states that the lessee can do any improvements that ABC wants. Legally, the house is ABC's to do as they please during that week. Then the lease is up, and the family moves back in the house.

It is just like an apartment. If you decide to make repairs/repaint/etc, the landlord keeps the changes tax free when you leave.

Thus the kids in this case never had a written contract. They had no house to lease.
:cookie: for your insights. Sounds like an open-and-shut case for ABC then. Actually, this makes perfect sense, except in some episodes where ABC builds a completely new dwelling. Does this law apply to the land as well, or just the original dwelling? Not sure how property law works.

 
I am curious what went on between the couple and the kids. It's not beyond comprehension that the couple could have driven the kids out to have the house to themselves. But that doesn't mean ABC owes them anything, they need to take this up with the couple.

Now if the couple DID drive the kids out to keep the house for themselves, it's ABC that should be filing a lawsuit against the couple. Because without the kids, there would be no mansion.
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.
 
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.

I have, in response to a poster who isn't a '1337 d00d' teenager. Learn to read.
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Not sure what to make of this... on the one hand I hate frivolous lawsuits, but otoh the networks need to pay for making TV un-fvcking-watchable with this garbage reality sh!t.
Have you ever watched Extreme Makeover Home Edition? Reality isn't a word I would have used to describe it.

It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.


you could possible be the next Nik...
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.

I have, in response to a poster who isn't a '1337 d00d' teenager. Learn to read.

How exactly is Toasthead a "1337 d00d"?
Please, do provide an example of his "1337-sp33k" within his post.

I suggest that you in fact have reading comprehension issues.
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.

I have, in response to a poster who isn't a '1337 d00d' teenager. Learn to read.

haha edit your response and then insult me and poorly at that. Nice. Im about as far from a 'leet' teenager as they come. I just cant stand people who mouth off about sh!t they know nothing about, and then get all defensive when people call them out on it. yes that means you.
 
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.

I have, in response to a poster who isn't a '1337 d00d' teenager. Learn to read.

How exactly is Toasthead a "1337 d00d"?
Please, do provide an example of his "1337-sp33k" within his post.

I suggest that you in fact have reading comprehension issues.

No one over the age of 15 thinks "STFU" is an acceptable retort in a debate. I should point out that you've *still* failed to actually read the thread, preferring instead to antagonize. Thus I'll add 'kid' to the already reading-challenged take I have on you.
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.

I have, in response to a poster who isn't a '1337 d00d' teenager. Learn to read.

How exactly is Toasthead a "1337 d00d"?
Please, do provide an example of his "1337-sp33k" within his post.

I suggest that you in fact have reading comprehension issues.

No one over the age of 15 thinks "STFU" is an acceptable retort in a debate. I should point out that you've *still* failed to actually read the thread, preferring instead to antagonize. Thus I'll add 'kid' to the already reading-challenged take I have on you.

Again, please provide an example of him posting "STFU".

Telling someone to "shut the fvck up" is not "1337-speak".
I find your "insults" hilarious. :laugh:

Come back when you've earned the respect of the people here and then I'll listen to what you have to say. Until then, feel free to bleat on about how you consider yourself to be oh-so-much better than everyone else.
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.

I have, in response to a poster who isn't a '1337 d00d' teenager. Learn to read.

How exactly is Toasthead a "1337 d00d"?
Please, do provide an example of his "1337-sp33k" within his post.

I suggest that you in fact have reading comprehension issues.

No one over the age of 15 thinks "STFU" is an acceptable retort in a debate. I should point out that you've *still* failed to actually read the thread, preferring instead to antagonize. Thus I'll add 'kid' to the already reading-challenged take I have on you.

Im sorry, we were having a deabte now? Debating takes place between two people who KNOW SOMETHING about the topic. You proved you know NOTHING about the show, so how can you debate?
 
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
It's bad TV exploiting poor people for ratings. I fail to see the difference.
WTF are you talking about? How does thsi show exploit people? you need to learn to shut the Fvck up when you dont know what you are talking about.

Ah yes, I need to "stfu", I guess you just "pwned" me. Did high school let out early today, or are you allowed internet access in class these days?

Answer his question.

I have, in response to a poster who isn't a '1337 d00d' teenager. Learn to read.

How exactly is Toasthead a "1337 d00d"?
Please, do provide an example of his "1337-sp33k" within his post.

I suggest that you in fact have reading comprehension issues.

No one over the age of 15 thinks "STFU" is an acceptable retort in a debate. I should point out that you've *still* failed to actually read the thread, preferring instead to antagonize. Thus I'll add 'kid' to the already reading-challenged take I have on you.

Im sorry, we were having a deabte now? Debating takes place between two people who KNOW SOMETHING about the topic. You proved you know NOTHING about the show, so how can you debate?

Must be a politician 😀
 
STFU! WTFBBQ! Teh Higgins nizzles is the suck. I sprised they didn't pop the old farts and take the hizouse by force.

😀
 
Originally posted by: Phil
Come back when you've earned the respect of the people here and then I'll listen to what you have to say.

I don't want respect from people such as yourself. I couldn't possibly care less whether you listen to what I have to day; it could benefit only you, not myself.

Originally posted by: Toasthead
Im sorry, we were having a deabte now? Debating takes place between two people who KNOW SOMETHING about the topic. You proved you know NOTHING about the show, so how can you debate?

You've proven only your age, by insulting me for not agreeing with you.

Good day to both of you, I'm through arguing with teenagers.
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay
Originally posted by: Phil
Come back when you've earned the respect of the people here and then I'll listen to what you have to say.

I don't want respect from people such as yourself. I couldn't possibly care less whether you listen to what I have to day; it could benefit only you, not myself.

:laugh:

Originally posted by: Toasthead
Im sorry, we were having a deabte now? Debating takes place between two people who KNOW SOMETHING about the topic. You proved you know NOTHING about the show, so how can you debate?

You've proven only your age, by insulting me for not agreeing with you.

Good day to both of you, I'm through arguing with teenagers.

How wrong you are. Run along now and find somewhere else to assert your claimed moral and intellectual superiority.
 
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay

Originally posted by: Toasthead
Im sorry, we were having a deabte now? Debating takes place between two people who KNOW SOMETHING about the topic. You proved you know NOTHING about the show, so how can you debate?

You've proven only your age, by insulting me for not agreeing with you.

Umm.... Devil's Advocate here. He wasn't saying that you had to agree with him. I don't recall anyone saying that. He said that a debate takes place when two people DISCUSS a topic. Those parties do not have to agree. In fact, rarely do.
 
Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: ArtVandalay

Originally posted by: Toasthead
Im sorry, we were having a deabte now? Debating takes place between two people who KNOW SOMETHING about the topic. You proved you know NOTHING about the show, so how can you debate?

You've proven only your age, by insulting me for not agreeing with you.

Umm.... Devil's Advocate here. He wasn't saying that you had to agree with him. I don't recall anyone saying that. He said that a debate takes place when two people DISCUSS a topic. Those parties do not have to agree. In fact, rarely do.

I was referring to his first reply to me.
 
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