Exposing the Discovery Institute and the Truth about Creation Theory.

[Mai72]

Interesting video that I came across by Profesor Dave who goes after the Discovery Institute for their obvious lies and misformation about evolution theory. The DI main goal is to discredit evolution theory so they can move their theory about creation (which has been debunked many times over) into the science classroom. With the current US Supreme court they might just get their wish. And what is next? It could avalanche from there. They will create laws where it will be mandatory to attend church, or if you say anything negative about the Christian god you could possibly face punishment like time in jail or even worse. It's like we are slowly evolving back to the early 1800s.

Me Shopping: "lada lada oh I think I'll buy this apple."
Police: Excuse me sir. Do you believe in Jesus Christ as lord and savior?

Me: Oh, but I'm a Buddhist. I love EVERYONE!
Police: Throw this non-believer heathen sinner into jail!

Me:

This kind of scenerio could happen. Just saying.

 

[Number1]

It's been comming for a long time. Remember the televangelist of the 80s. They are making significant progress now with the internet. Consider the abortion issue. The faith based establishment will finaly impose it's will on womens reproductive choices.

I reguard all religion as quackery now. Quackery being exploited for the benefit of the elite.
I loooked up the discovery institute web site. It looks very profesional. They have become masterfull at diquising facts they disagree with as ridiculous lies easily "debunked". Things like evolution.
They promote truly discusting nonsense just like the truther movement, the antivaccine crowd, the big lie and US gun policies do.

The US is going to shit and this coruption is comming to Canada with Poilievre. Makes me want to barf.

 

[Mai72]

It's been comming for a long time. Remember the televangelist of the 80s. They are making significant progress now with the internet. Consider the abortion issue. The faith based establishment will finaly impose it's will on womens reproductive choices.

I reguard all religion as quackery now. Quackery being exploited for the benefit of the elite.
I loooked up the discovery institute web site. It looks very profesional. They have become masterfull at diquising facts they disagree with as ridiculous lies easily "debunked". Things like evolution.
They promote truly discusting nonsense just like the truther movement, the antivaccine crowd, the big lie and US gun policies do.

The US is going to shit and this coruption is comming to Canada with Poilievre. Makes me want to barf.

Yea, you should check out Professor Dave's other videos on the Discovey Institute. Very interesting stuff. He had even gone after and debated flat earthers.

 

[lxskllr]

Is that really interesting though? "Debunking" retards has the same appeal as squashing ants with your finger. You keep squashing, and the ants keep coming. A sane criticism of obvious stupidity is a pointless exercise.

 

[deadlyapp]

If you think we're going to back slide that far you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Just because loud people have more prominent pulpits now doesn't mean that Gen pop agrees with them. A lot of conservative values such as conserving life, avoiding government intervention in life, strong on crime, etc have more broad acceptance than anyone let's on, however at the same time the US is probably the most agnostic that it's ever been because of more education. You still get fringes on the left and right and they are the loudest, so if you only listen to the fringes it's easy to think it's more prominent than it actually is.

 

[pete6032]

Yes yes we know how you feel about the church.

 

[IronWing]

If you think we're going to back slide that far you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Just because loud people have more prominent pulpits now doesn't mean that Gen pop agrees with them. A lot of conservative values such as conserving life, avoiding government intervention in life, strong on crime, etc have more broad acceptance than anyone let's on, however at the same time the US is probably the most agnostic that it's ever been because of more education. You still get fringes on the left and right and they are the loudest, so if you only listen to the fringes it's easy to think it's more prominent than it actually is.

Conservatives don’t value any of those things you’ve listed and the conservative fringe is running our courts at the moment.

 

[zinfamous]

If you think we're going to back slide that far you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Just because loud people have more prominent pulpits now doesn't mean that Gen pop agrees with them. A lot of conservative values such as conserving life, avoiding government intervention in life, strong on crime, etc have more broad acceptance than anyone let's on, however at the same time the US is probably the most agnostic that it's ever been because of more education. You still get fringes on the left and right and they are the loudest, so if you only listen to the fringes it's easy to think it's more prominent than it actually is.

let me know when you meet an actual self-described conservative that values any of those things.

 

[Torn Mind]

If you think we're going to back slide that far you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Just because loud people have more prominent pulpits now doesn't mean that Gen pop agrees with them. A lot of conservative values such as conserving life, avoiding government intervention in life, strong on crime, etc have more broad acceptance than anyone let's on, however at the same time the US is probably the most agnostic that it's ever been because of more education. You still get fringes on the left and right and they are the loudest, so if you only listen to the fringes it's easy to think it's more prominent than it actually is.

Laxness on crime is a systemic thing. Mainly to curb the power of the state from just preemptively cooking up charges on the fly. Thus, those who do not speak or are not listened to simply get quietly damaged. Even those who get caught are quietly let go early for good behavior(and likely constraints of budget and space in the local jail) or simply get inconvenienced with "STET" or "nolle prosequi" due to the lack of evidence. A small degree of precautionary vigilantism is necessary in many situations, because paper sits in a lawbook somewhere. Actions occur in a 3D space with time flowing. Another thing is that the hidden legacy of the civil rights era is precisely lax enforcement, as a case that is dropped cannot go on the appeal train.
If you are referring to the laxness of punishment of those caught for a crime, that is probably a legitimate concern. The masses, in the pop morality, do not grasp that most criminals are not in need some sweetness and cuddling(or a conversion to God, which they also intentionally do to curry favor and clemency). If the "numbers chasers" have their way, well, a substantial number of virulent personalities will not even be bothered.

As for the life thing, yeah, I'm on board. It's like people embrace a strictly business-like approach to solve a Malthsusian solution whenever they feel like it. Perhaps the solution should gneralized so any quasi "trustee-beneficiary" relationship gives the trustee the right to terminate the life of the beneficiary if economics dictate it to be more prudent; that is, the beneficiary is a parasite to the trustee.

In the realm of politics and news, conserative "values" are mostly a front for a pro-business lobby.

 

[deadlyapp]

Conservatives don’t value any of those things you’ve listed and the conservative fringe is running our courts at the moment.

let me know when you meet an actual self-described conservative that values any of those things.

Just to be clear, and in the interest of this not turning into a P&N thread, I'm not saying that conservatives prescribe to those values, just that they are generally platforms that conservatives generally stick to.

Again, there are many that probably swing more conservative that would say these are values they consider, but don't go to the fringes like we're hearing about now.