Explorer and Liberty fail bumper tests

N8Magic

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I'm buying a Liberty anyways.

People need to realize that SUV's can't be driven like a sports sedan, because of there inherent high center of gravity. The Highlander scores so well because it is based on a car platform, and has limited suspension travel, which creates less "rolling" in the corners.

Liberty's on the other hand, are built to do moderate off-roading from stock, which automatically makes it more prone to rollovers than a car or a less capable SUV.
 

Zenmervolt

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They didn't fail crash tests, they failed bumper tests. Your title is quite misleading.

ZV
 

N8Magic

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Your ass is rugged? ;)

Seriously, the Liberty could run circles around 95% of SUV's off-road no problem. Trust me, i've taken one off-road, and it can hang with the big boys.
 

LAUST

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Sweet Trailblazer was one of the reccomended ones, yeah baby yeah!, as far as the RAM it's about time they got a bumper on that SOB
 

LAUST

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What was it all to the bumper and then up on the frame straighter?
 
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NFS4

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<< I'm buying a Liberty anyways.

People need to realize that SUV's can't be driven like a sports sedan, because of there inherent high center of gravity. The Highlander scores so well because it is based on a car platform, and has limited suspension travel, which creates less "rolling" in the corners.

Liberty's on the other hand, are built to do moderate off-roading from stock, which automatically makes it more prone to rollovers than a car or a less capable SUV.
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Suspension travel and rollling in corners has nothing to do with running into a barrier at low speed. The Liberty just racks up expensive costs in this case and a poor rating.

Now this failure (below) is different. It's only the second SUV in the history of the test to topple over. If everyone else can pass the test, why can't the Liberty?

http://edmunds.yellowbrix.com/pages/edmunds/Story.nsp?story_id=25669931&ID=edmunds
 

Midnight Rambler

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<< Wait a Fuggin Second.

Damage to the Ram totaled a little over $3,800 and all damage was confined to the bumper.

The total damage sustained in the low-speed Blazer crash was estimated at $2,455.
All of the damage to the TrailBlazer was confined to the bumper, without any damage to the vehicle body."

If all the damage is to the bumper only how can it cost that much, I've seen the prices of expensive aftermarket chrome catwalk super dooper cooper loopdie loo bumpers and they were not 3800billZ

What was it all to the bumper and then up on the frame straighter? Something smells like a fish taco around here
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You can thank "modularization" for the bloated repair costs. More and more the trend is to build cars from "modules" of components which formerly were installed/assembled individually.

We're seeing headlight assemblies approach $3K for the exotic stuff.

I need a new Rt. Frt. Wheel speed sensor for one of my cars, but no, I gotta buy a whole assembly that just happens to include the sensor.

And it will just get worse. Already, the capability to build cars from knock-down kits is being used and refined.
 

LAUST

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On my truck you can find things called an "Intermediate steeringshaft" on these shake and bake cars, your buying the entire assembly.
 
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lowfatbaconboy

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face it suv's = flipmobiles
or your tires are underinflated on an overweight vehicle and they go boom

that's what fords problem was....the explorer failed crash tests with tires full inflated so they deflated the tires and it didn't fail.....so they left them that way....so they pop easier or have tread seperation.....weeeeee don't we just all love suv poses
 

pay

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Come on, you actually expected a domestic to do good in a [crash] test?

Your wasting your time
 

geno

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<< Come on, you actually expected a domestic to do good in a [crash] test?

Your wasting your time
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Smart comment [/sarcasm]
 

BigLance

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<< Liberty's on the other hand, are built to do moderate off-roading from stock, which automatically makes it more prone to rollovers than a car or a less capable SUV. >>



Uh, ok man



<< Seriously, the Liberty could run circles around 95% of SUV's off-road no problem. Trust me, i've taken one off-road, and it can hang with the big boys. >>



I dunno bout 95%
 

LAUST

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For some strange reason I don't see a MDX bumper costing so little while the trailblazer is over $600, I'll check some prices and get back :)
 
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