Explanation of the new PS3 form factor.

[Golgatha]

This explains it all...

 

[oznerol]

I'm not going to lie. That was terrible.

 

[destrekor]

heh heh

Sony has always been a very cocky company. There was something I read recently that said Sony was very arrogant, and when they went over the top recently, consumers gave them a smack on the head and the PS3 Slim at $299 is Sony's realization of that.

Sony as a company is trying hard to adjust their previous ego trip of a decade. They are approaching the TV market with better prices, and doing good things with manufacturing to try and keep close to the top while offering competitive prices. Most of their product lines are filled with amazing products, but for awhile they didn't have great products but charged for them as if they were the next greatest thing ever to be sold. Their slowly getting a grip on the concept that name isn't everything and that products have to back up that name.

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: destrekor
heh heh

Sony has always been a very cocky company. There was something I read recently that said Sony was very arrogant, and when they went over the top recently, consumers gave them a smack on the head and the PS3 Slim at $299 is Sony's realization of that.

Sony as a company is trying hard to adjust their previous ego trip of a decade. They are approaching the TV market with better prices, and doing good things with manufacturing to try and keep close to the top while offering competitive prices. Most of their product lines are filled with amazing products, but for awhile they didn't have great products but charged for them as if they were the next greatest thing ever to be sold. Their slowly getting a grip on the concept that name isn't everything and that products have to back up that name.

Are you a robot?

 

[fatpat268]

Originally posted by: oznerol
I'm not going to lie. That was terrible.

No kidding.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: destrekor
heh heh

Sony has always been a very cocky company. There was something I read recently that said Sony was very arrogant, and when they went over the top recently, consumers gave them a smack on the head and the PS3 Slim at $299 is Sony's realization of that.

Sony as a company is trying hard to adjust their previous ego trip of a decade. They are approaching the TV market with better prices, and doing good things with manufacturing to try and keep close to the top while offering competitive prices. Most of their product lines are filled with amazing products, but for awhile they didn't have great products but charged for them as if they were the next greatest thing ever to be sold. Their slowly getting a grip on the concept that name isn't everything and that products have to back up that name.

Are you a robot?

i dont think so, but by his posts on this forum i am 100% convinced he works for Sony.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: destrekor
heh heh

Sony has always been a very cocky company. There was something I read recently that said Sony was very arrogant, and when they went over the top recently, consumers gave them a smack on the head and the PS3 Slim at $299 is Sony's realization of that.

Sony as a company is trying hard to adjust their previous ego trip of a decade. They are approaching the TV market with better prices, and doing good things with manufacturing to try and keep close to the top while offering competitive prices. Most of their product lines are filled with amazing products, but for awhile they didn't have great products but charged for them as if they were the next greatest thing ever to be sold. Their slowly getting a grip on the concept that name isn't everything and that products have to back up that name.

Are you a robot?

i dont think so, but by his posts on this forum i am 100% convinced he works for Sony.

lol seriously?

so anybody who doesn't bash Sony is automatically a fanboy or accused of working for them? Really?

Microsoft used to be the company to hate, now it's all weird: cool to love the 360, but cool to bash Windows.

forum idiots - I'll never understand them.

From a consumer electronics standpoint, Sony is a shit ton better than they were 5-10 years ago. Their sound equipment still sucks ass though, would never buy speaker products or a receiver from them. In fact I'm pissed my parents went with a Sony HTIB a few years back.

what I don't get is how I am labeled some kind of fan-boy, when I've yet to bash any competing product. Hell, I don't think I've ever bashed a product, period.

I've thought about buying a 360 when one gets cheap, like... end of generation PS2 cheap (before new gens come out), just for the fact that there are a few games I wouldn't mind owning. However, most games that come out I simply get for the PC. My PS3 collection is basically just the exclusives, all multi-plat games I buy on PC. And thankfully, most 360 exclusives release on the PC too.

I've never looked at these companies as "good" or "evil" as the fanboy mentality tends to, rather I look at it from a marketing and business approach. That's how I think about business decisions. I've called out Sony for making retarded mistakes, but tend to still realize the business decision making behind the mistakes.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: destrekor
I've never looked at these companies as "good" or "evil" as the fanboy mentality tends to, rather I look at it from a marketing and business approach. That's how I think about business decisions. I've called out Sony for making retarded mistakes, but tend to still realize the business decision making behind the mistakes.

Actually, I like to think of Sony as making both bad business decisions, and just purely arrogant as well, which has turned them down the path of making several bad business decisions over the last few years. I love their hardware, but I hate, hate, hate their attitude of thinking everything needs to be done their way, and also their tendency to push proprietary formats (see UMD, mini-disc, Memorystick, etc) on the end user.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: destrekor
I've never looked at these companies as "good" or "evil" as the fanboy mentality tends to, rather I look at it from a marketing and business approach. That's how I think about business decisions. I've called out Sony for making retarded mistakes, but tend to still realize the business decision making behind the mistakes.

Actually, I like to think of Sony as making both bad business decisions, and just purely arrogant as well, which has turned them down the path of making several bad business decisions over the last few years. I love their hardware, but I hate, hate, hate their attitude of thinking everything needs to be done their way, and also their tendency to push proprietary formats (see UMD, mini-disc, Memorystick, etc) on the end user.

mini-disc was a comical time for Sony, definitely ready to laugh at them for that.

I don't get the hate for UMD though. It didn't hurt anyone who didn't have a PSP, and for PSP owners... what did it matter? Every other hand held console has a proprietary format. There is some logic behind the UMD at that point - if making a special format for one device, why not expand it? And Sony has been big with formats - CD, DVD, BD. So... definitely a shit ton of arrogance with Sony when it comes to proprietary formats, but it kind of makes sense in the end.
Flash sticks would be too expensive to ship games on, at least when the PSP came out.

They're biggest flaw was making devices that could only use a single flash format, which doesn't bode well for consumer choice, which pisses off consumers and turns them off.

The past few years they handled the Playstation brand terribly. But this last year they've been making up for that, handling developers with more care, making better decisions for the devices. I'll never get a PSP Go, but it's a great idea. Keep the PSP 3000 alive as the go-to PSP, but put out the PSP Go as a device to try and attract iPod Touch fans. The whole idea of Minis, with the PSP Go, basically makes that one very obvious. 16gb? Yep. The lack of touch is the mistake Sony made, and charging $250 without that touch feature is a big business mistake, but one of the few they've made in recent months, at least with the PS brand.

They are an arrogant company, but they've been showing they are trying to improve that image, at least imho. Apparently not others, but others are also unrealistic and anything that goes against their closely-guarded opinions is absolutely wrong.

 

[randay]

fuck they dropped the sony ego from the ps3? no way in hell im buying that crippleware they call ps3 slim.

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: destrekor
heh heh

Sony has always been a very cocky company. There was something I read recently that said Sony was very arrogant, and when they went over the top recently, consumers gave them a smack on the head and the PS3 Slim at $299 is Sony's realization of that.

Sony as a company is trying hard to adjust their previous ego trip of a decade. They are approaching the TV market with better prices, and doing good things with manufacturing to try and keep close to the top while offering competitive prices. Most of their product lines are filled with amazing products, but for awhile they didn't have great products but charged for them as if they were the next greatest thing ever to be sold. Their slowly getting a grip on the concept that name isn't everything and that products have to back up that name.

Are you a robot?

i dont think so, but by his posts on this forum i am 100% convinced he works for Sony.

That wasn't what I was implying, anyway. It's his uncanny ability to take a really mundane topic and write a 500 word essay on it.

It's a superhuman ability I thought only possessed by robots.

He didn't deny it, so I can only assume it's true.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: destrekor
heh heh

Sony has always been a very cocky company. There was something I read recently that said Sony was very arrogant, and when they went over the top recently, consumers gave them a smack on the head and the PS3 Slim at $299 is Sony's realization of that.

Sony as a company is trying hard to adjust their previous ego trip of a decade. They are approaching the TV market with better prices, and doing good things with manufacturing to try and keep close to the top while offering competitive prices. Most of their product lines are filled with amazing products, but for awhile they didn't have great products but charged for them as if they were the next greatest thing ever to be sold. Their slowly getting a grip on the concept that name isn't everything and that products have to back up that name.

Are you a robot?

i dont think so, but by his posts on this forum i am 100% convinced he works for Sony.

That wasn't what I was implying, anyway. It's his uncanny ability to take a really mundane topic and write a 500 word essay on it.

It's a superhuman ability I thought only possessed by robots.

He didn't deny it, so I can only assume it's true.

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wait, wut? sorry

it's extremely easy for me to type forever on any subject.
it's insanely hard for me to make short and sweet points. :laugh:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: destrekor
I don't get the hate for UMD though. It didn't hurt anyone who didn't have a PSP, and for PSP owners... what did it matter? Every other hand held console has a proprietary format. There is some logic behind the UMD at that point - if making a special format for one device, why not expand it? And Sony has been big with formats - CD, DVD, BD. So... definitely a shit ton of arrogance with Sony when it comes to proprietary formats, but it kind of makes sense in the end.
Flash sticks would be too expensive to ship games on, at least when the PSP came out.

Yeah there's nothing wrong with using a proprietary format for a handheld game device. Expecting people to want to buy movies in UMD format was... misguided.

They're biggest flaw was making devices that could only use a single flash format, which doesn't bode well for consumer choice, which pisses off consumers and turns them off.

I doubt many people would mind if they only supported SD cards. The problem is they only supported their own proprietary flash memory format.

The past few years they handled the Playstation brand terribly. But this last year they've been making up for that, handling developers with more care, making better decisions for the devices. I'll never get a PSP Go, but it's a great idea. Keep the PSP 3000 alive as the go-to PSP, but put out the PSP Go as a device to try and attract iPod Touch fans. The whole idea of Minis, with the PSP Go, basically makes that one very obvious. 16gb? Yep. The lack of touch is the mistake Sony made, and charging $250 without that touch feature is a big business mistake, but one of the few they've made in recent months, at least with the PS brand.

Yeah, without a touch screen it can't compete directly with the iPod Touch. A touch screen (and an SD card slot ) would have made a huge difference. The iPod Touch isn't just a media player and a portable game system, it's an Internet-connected PDA. It's not even very good as a portable game system, and no one buys the Touch primarily to play games. A lot of those games that would have been great on the iPod Touch if it had physical buttons will probably be great on the PSP Go - and if the software prices are the same as they are in the App Store, the PSP Go will be awesome for people who are looking for quick pick up and play games to kill a few minutes.

 

[Industrial]

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: oznerol
I'm not going to lie. That was terrible.

No kidding.

I'm going to third that.

Did Penny Arcade do one yet?

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: oznerol
I'm not going to lie. That was terrible.

No kidding.

It's CAD, did you expect anything else?

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: fatpat268

Originally posted by: oznerol
I'm not going to lie. That was terrible.

No kidding.

It's CAD, did you expect anything else?

Ugh, OP should be banned for blindlinking that shitty comic.

 

[Phobic9]

Seems to me that Sony's ego is still there. Oh well, what do I care... bring on Uncharted 2!!!

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: destrekor
heh heh

Sony has always been a very cocky company. There was something I read recently that said Sony was very arrogant, and when they went over the top recently, consumers gave them a smack on the head and the PS3 Slim at $299 is Sony's realization of that.

Sony as a company is trying hard to adjust their previous ego trip of a decade. They are approaching the TV market with better prices, and doing good things with manufacturing to try and keep close to the top while offering competitive prices. Most of their product lines are filled with amazing products, but for awhile they didn't have great products but charged for them as if they were the next greatest thing ever to be sold. Their slowly getting a grip on the concept that name isn't everything and that products have to back up that name.

Awesome, since you're clearly a sony PR rep, can you get us ATers a massive discount on sony products?

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: destrekor
mini-disc was a comical time for Sony, definitely ready to laugh at them for that.

Why? It was apparently pretty popular in Europe. I had a friend that had me important all sorts of MD stuff for him because the prices were much lower over here. He had me buy a player for him once, sent me a couple mini discs of some live shows he had. The thing worked quite well... the quality was phenomenal. Of course this was right around the time the iPod was starting to gain popularity so it may have died off since then.