Experience with moving to another state for in-state tuition rates at state universities?

[RalphTheCow]

Does it work? Virginia, for example.

 

[FoBoT]

you have to live there for a couple years before you qualify, the rules vary but 12-24 months is normal

so you'd have to move to Virginia, get a job and not go to school for 1-2 years , then start school to get in state tuition

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
you have to live there for a couple years before you qualify, the rules vary but 12-24 months is normal

:thumbsup:

 

[AreaCode707]

In Washington if you concurrently work 30+ hours a week at a non-school job, you pay in-state tuition. Otherwise you have to wait 10 months.

 

[aphex]

depends on the state, i think here in FL its only like 6 months...

EDIT: n/m, FL is 12 months

 

[aphex]

http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/status.html

 

[AmigaMan]

yeah, depends on the state. When I was starting college, my family and I moved from NC to Michigan. They said we either had to stay there 12 months or buy some property in MI before they would allow me to have in-state tuition.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

buy property in advance, it can be cheaper to buy a condo paying mortgage and in state tuition compared to out of state tuition. you get a chance to build equity, can rent it out, have a place to yourself, get in state tuition, etc. - the advantages go on.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: HotChic
In Washington if you concurrently work 30+ hours a week at a non-school job, you pay in-state tuition. Otherwise you have to wait 10 months.

Are you talking about Washington state? I believe that 30+ hours is in addition to the 10 months. My friend from California had to do that. He paid out the arse in tuition up until a year ago.

 

[BoomerD]

Every state has its residency requirements you have to meet before you can qualify for resident tuition.

Requirements for Resident Classification:
The Code requires that independent students, emancipated minors, or the parents/guardians of unemancipated minors or dependents prove Virginia domicile to receive in-state tuition.

Applicants must prove by clear and convincing evidence that they have abandoned any previous domicile and have been domiciled in Virginia for at least twelve months prior to the first day of class for which the student is registering.

The Code defines ?dependent student? as one who receives substantial financial support (more than 50%) from parents or legal guardian.

Individuals under age 24 on the first day of classes will be classified automatically as dependent students unless they are 1) married; 2) veterans or active-duty members of the U.S. Armed Forces; 3) graduate or professional students; 4) wards of the court (or were wards of the court until age 18); or 5) have no adoptive or legal guardian when both parents are dead; or 6) have legal dependents other than a spouse.

?Independent students? are those whose parents have surrendered rights to their care, custody and earnings, do not claim them as dependents on Federal or state income tax returns, and no longer provide substantial financial support.

?Emancipated minors? are under age 18 with the same situation. The domicile of an unemancipated minor or dependent student 18 years or older may be the domicile of the parent with whom the student resides or the parent who, for the previous and present year, has claimed the student as a dependent for Federal and Virginia income tax purposes. Unemancipated minors with no surviving parents gain domicile from their guardian.

If a dependent student?s domiciled parents move from Virginia, that student may continue to pay in-state tuition for one year from the date of the parents? abandonment of domicile.

Married persons may establish domicile like any other student; a person?s domicile is not automatically altered by marriage. However, if a student receives substantial financial support from a resident spouse, the student may gain domicile through that spouse.

Aliens with immigrant visas or refugee or lawful permanent resident status granted by the INS may be eligible for in-state tuition rates according to the same criteria used for U.S. citizens.

Waiver of 1-Year Requirement: The one year of continuous domicile is not required for active-duty U.S. military personnel, their dependent spouses and children, residing in Virginia who choose to adopt Virginia as their legal domicile and who satisfy simultaneously all other conditions for establishing domicile (See Evidence, below). They must also file a new State of Legal Residence Certificate declaring Virginia as their domicile for income tax purposes.

 

[KillerCharlie]

Usually you have to live there at least a year as a non-student.

 

[kalrith]

At my wife's school in Missouri, they're supposed to be a resident for a year before getting in-state tuition. However, they said if she got a Missouri drivers license and showed proof of a job and a Missouri residence, then she could get in-state tuition. She did that and got in-state tuition less than a month after becoming a resident.

 

[RalphTheCow]

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo
buy property in advance, it can be cheaper to buy a condo paying mortgage and in state tuition compared to out of state tuition. you get a chance to build equity, can rent it out, have a place to yourself, get in state tuition, etc. - the advantages go on.

That would be good if I had the money. Reading through Virginia's requirements, it seems to me the key may be to have a summer job there to prove you stuck around in the summer.

Hopefully someone here has had recent experience with Virginia.

OK, this is cut from the Virginia code. The bold section seems to apply, but I need help interpreting it, although it isn't too bad for legalese:
B. To become eligible for in-state tuition, an independent student shall establish by clear and convincing evidence that for a period of at least one year immediately prior to the date of the alleged entitlement, he was domiciled in Virginia and had abandoned any previous domicile, if such existed.

To become eligible for in-state tuition, a dependent student or unemancipated minor shall establish by clear and convincing evidence that for a period of at least one year prior to the date of the alleged entitlement, the person through whom he claims eligibility was domiciled in Virginia and had abandoned any previous domicile, if such existed. If the person through whom the dependent student or unemancipated minor established such domicile and eligibility for in-state tuition abandons his Virginia domicile, the dependent student or unemancipated minor shall be entitled to such in-state tuition for one year from the date of such abandonment.

In determining domiciliary intent, all of the following applicable factors shall be considered: continuous residence for at least one year prior to the date of alleged entitlement, state to which income taxes are filed or paid, driver's license, motor vehicle registration, voter registration, employment, property ownership, sources of financial support, military records, a written offer and acceptance of employment following graduation, and any other social or economic relationships with the Commonwealth and other jurisdictions.

Domiciliary status shall not ordinarily be conferred by the performance of acts which are auxiliary to fulfilling educational objectives or are required or routinely performed by temporary residents of the Commonwealth. Mere physical presence or residence primarily for educational purposes shall not confer domiciliary status. A matriculating student who has entered an institution and is classified as an out-of-state student shall be required to rebut by clear and convincing evidence the presumption that he is in the Commonwealth for the purpose of attending school and not as a bona fide domiciliary.

Those factors presented in support of entitlement to in-state tuition shall have existed for the one-year period prior to the date of the alleged entitlement. However, in determining the domiciliary intent of active duty military personnel residing in the Commonwealth, or the domiciliary intent of their dependent spouse or children who claim domicile through them, who voluntarily elect to establish Virginia as their permanent residence for domiciliary purposes, the requirement of one year shall be waived if all other conditions for establishing domicile are satisfied.

 

[BoomerD]

Dude, did you read what I posted? It tells you exactly what Virginia requires to establish residency for tuition purposes.

 

[RalphTheCow]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Dude, did you read what I posted? It tells you exactly what Virginia requires to establish residency for tuition purposes.

Yes I did. The dependent student is the case, and your posting says the parents or guardians have to have Virginia domicile. In the post above, the bolded part also discusses the same thing but is a little more vague.

So does anyone have experience with this - it can't just be a dependent student, it has to be a parent that lives there? Looks like the only other way would be to become independent, which is way too hard.

 

[BoomerD]

The law is there to keep students from moving to the state for a month or 3 before school starts, just to establish residency for the sake of in-state tuition. Keeps that in-state rate for actual residents of the state, out-of-staters pay the higher rate.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: HotChic
In Washington if you concurrently work 30+ hours a week at a non-school job, you pay in-state tuition. Otherwise you have to wait 10 months.

Are you talking about Washington state? I believe that 30+ hours is in addition to the 10 months. My friend from California had to do that. He paid out the arse in tuition up until a year ago.

Establishing a bona fide domicile:

To establish domicile in the State of Washington you must provide documentation showing you meet the following guidelines:

1.

Prove conclusively that you have not come to the state primarily for educational purposes. Current guidelines require that a student enrolled for 7 credits or more a quarter must be employed at least 30 hours per week at a non-student job to overcome the presumption of educational purposes.
2.

Live in the state for 12 consecutive months as a legal resident. A legal resident is an individual who has relinquished all valid legal ties (for example, driver's license, voter registration, et cetera) with their former state of residence and established such ties in Washington in accordance with state and local legislation.
3.

Establish ties:
1.

Employment.
2.

Driver's license/state ID. If you have a current out-of-state driver's license, you must obtain a Washington State Driver's License# within 30 days of arrival. If you don't have a driver's license from any state you must obtain a Washington State Identification Card.
3.

Vehicle registration. If you own or drive a vehicle in Washington, you must register it in Washington#.
4.

Voter registration. If you have a current out-of-state voter's registration, you must register to vote in Washington#.
5.

Establish a bank account in Washington.
6.

Medical/automobile insurance independent of parents.
7.

Financially independent for the current and prior calendar years.

Examples of other factors that might help one establish proof of domicile include: disposition of property in the former state of residence, relocation of household members, participation in local community organizations, and generally becoming involved in activities that will help prove their intent to make Washington their official place of residence.

http://www.washington.edu/students/reg/residency.html

My conclusion is that these are either/or, since once you hit 12 months they don't care where you work.

 

[zylander]

For CA you need to be living here for a year before enrolling. My friend is going through ****** right now at CCSF. He was born and raised in California, but went to Japan for 3 years for high school and now he is back and they are saying he is not a legal CA resident and trying to charge him over $1000 for community college.