Exchange 2500 for 2500 Mobile?

[gzg]

I just received my 2500 & NF7-S, and waiting for my memory.
After reading the posts on 2500 & 2600 Mobiles I considering exchanging the 2500 for the one of the Mobiles. My case is the Antec Sonata w/380 PS.
The price dif is small.

Are all Mobiles unlocked?
Any thoughts ?

TIA

 

[Jayavarman]

As far as I know all mobile Athlons are unlocked. It would need o be in order for speed throttling to work. If you plan to overclock, I would definitely exchange the 2500 you bought for the 2500 mobile. If you order from Newegg, they will exchange without restock fee. The mobile Athlons are the cream of the crop. I have a mobile 2500 that I'm running at 2688 Mhz.

 

[Buickbeast]

I would go for a mobile too. Don't forget the 2400+ mobile, its' the cheapest, and mine is doing 2400mhz @ stock volts(1.6 by my mobo)

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Jayavarman
As far as I know all mobile Athlons are unlocked. It would need o be in order for speed throttling to work. If you plan to overclock, I would definitely exchange the 2500 you bought for the 2500 mobile. If you order from Newegg, they will exchange without restock fee. The mobile Athlons are the cream of the crop. I have a mobile 2500 that I'm running at 2688 Mhz.

How long do I have? I bought my barton 2500+ about two weeks ago and it's a piece of sh*t for overclocking. I can't even hit 2100 mhz. The mobiles are similar physically, same heatsink, etc. etc. right?

I just called them and the guy said there is no exchange policy like that; I'll have to pay the 15% restocking fee. I may anyway, because I'm a bit purturbed at the lack of speed in my CPU, even though it is very nice.

 

[Jayavarman]

Skoorb,
Sorry, I didn't clarify myself. They would exchange w/o restock fee, if the product you bought is defective. Or, this is what I did, I ordered a mobile 2400 on 2/24/04. The mobile 2500 was out of stock at that time. Then on the next day, 2/25/04, the mobile 2500 was in stock again. So I call looked up my mobile 2400 order, it's already shipped. So I called Newegg and they said to go ahead and order the mobile 2500, and when I get both CPUs, just RMA the mobile 2400 and explain what happened and they will refund me 100%. But I guess this would not apply in your case or GZG's. Sorry for the confusion.

And yes, the mobile 2500 is exactly the same as the desktop 2500, except that it's default vcore is 1.45 and it's unlocked. What better thing can you ask for eh? And yes, they will work with any mobo that supports the socketA.

Good luck.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Jayavarman
Skoorb,
Sorry, I didn't clarify myself. They would exchange w/o restock fee, if the product you bought is defective. Or, this is what I did, I ordered a mobile 2400 on 2/24/04. The mobile 2500 was out of stock at that time. Then on the next day, 2/25/04, the mobile 2500 was in stock again. So I call looked up my mobile 2400 order, it's already shipped. So I called Newegg and they said to go ahead and order the mobile 2500, and when I get both CPUs, just RMA the mobile 2400 and explain what happened and they will refund me 100%. But I guess this would not apply in your case or GZG's. Sorry for the confusion.

And yes, the mobile 2500 is exactly the same as the desktop 2500, except that it's default vcore is 1.45 and it's unlocked. What better thing can you ask for eh? And yes, they will work with any mobo that supports the socketA.

Good luck.

OK cool Now, what about the 2400+ mobile? Why would one buy the 2500+ if the 2400+ is like $22 cheaper? Are they really the same core? I'm happy with my 2500+ at 2050mhz...or rather I would be if not for the fact that most people get 2200 mhz or more and I get penis envy. I think perhaps a replacement would cost me less than $30, though I wouldn't do it unless I was reasonably guaranteed that I could hit 2300 mhz or more.

 

[Jayavarman]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
OK cool Now, what about the 2400+ mobile? Why would one buy the 2500+ if the 2400+ is like $22 cheaper? Are they really the same core? I'm happy with my 2500+ at 2050mhz...or rather I would be if not for the fact that most people get 2200 mhz or more and I get penis envy. I think perhaps a replacement would cost me less than $30, though I wouldn't do it unless I was reasonably guaranteed that I could hit 2300 mhz or more.

I didn't even try the mobile 2400. I returned it without opening the FedEX package. From what I've read around the web, the mobile 2400 usually topped out around 2300-2400 mhz. But I've seen people say their mobile 2400 hitting 2.6 to 2.7 Ghz. However, the mobile 2500 is almost guaranteed to hit 2400 mhz and higher, much higher. I've seen 2.8 - 3.0 Ghz. If I were you, I would exchange the 2500 for the mobile 2500 with the restock fee. As tight as I am on money, I would spend the $30 to upgrade to the mobile 2500.

 

[Buickbeast]

Originally posted by: Jayavarman

Originally posted by: Skoorb
OK cool Now, what about the 2400+ mobile? Why would one buy the 2500+ if the 2400+ is like $22 cheaper? Are they really the same core? I'm happy with my 2500+ at 2050mhz...or rather I would be if not for the fact that most people get 2200 mhz or more and I get penis envy. I think perhaps a replacement would cost me less than $30, though I wouldn't do it unless I was reasonably guaranteed that I could hit 2300 mhz or more.

I didn't even try the mobile 2400. I returned it without opening the FedEX package. From what I've read around the web, the mobile 2400 usually topped out around 2300-2400 mhz. But I've seen people say their mobile 2400 hitting 2.6 to 2.7 Ghz. However, the mobile 2500 is almost guaranteed to hit 2400 mhz and higher, much higher. I've seen 2.8 - 3.0 Ghz. If I were you, I would exchange the 2500 for the mobile 2500 with the restock fee. As tight as I am on money, I would spend the $30 to upgrade to the mobile 2500.

look at my post 4 up! My 2400+ is priming now at 2456mhz @ 1.6volts. Don't let the stock rating fool you, its' all about the stepping. A bad stepping might only do 2200-2300mhz and the best stepping will do 2800-3000mhz no matter what the "stock" rating of the chip.

 

[zephyrprime]

I noticed that HP now offers a 2800+ mobile in their notebooks so I wonder if that might also be available soon for purchase.

 

[dnuggett]

and the best stepping will do 2800-3000mhz

And you have seen 2800-3000mhz where? Is this with phase changing?

 

[Buickbeast]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

and the best stepping will do 2800-3000mhz

And you have seen 2800-3000mhz where? Is this with phase changing?

yeah phase change/good water. I think the first guy to hit 3ghz with these was just on water

 

[myocardia]

I'd definitely exchange it. I mean, what's $12 anyway? I'd give anyone on earth $12 to give me 300-400 more mhz out my processor, especially newegg.

 

[Jayavarman]

Originally posted by: Buickbeast

Originally posted by: dnuggett

and the best stepping will do 2800-3000mhz

And you have seen 2800-3000mhz where? Is this with phase changing?

yeah phase change/good water. I think the first guy to hit 3ghz with these was just on water

But it was very unstable. If we're talking about the same guy, I think he corrupted the entire hard drive and had to reformat. I've yet to see a stable 2.9 or higher.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

considering there is supposed to only be a difference of 66Mhz when comparing a mobile 2400+ and a mobile 2500+, there shouldn't be much of a difference in how well either chip over clocks. If anything, the mobile 2600+ should be the money chip as it is guaranteed to hit over 2.1GHz @ 1.45V stock instead of 1.8-1.9GHz @ 1.45 volts that the 2400+ and 2500+ are meant to do.

Buickbeast nailed it on the head about stepping, not PR rating. I've got a 2400+ myself and am in the process of increasing my OC, and so far it'll do 2.1GHz @ 1.45V and I'm still going.

 

[p1800volvo]

What is the average OC in AMD speak? Like my 2500 XP hitting 3200? What will the mobil hit in AMD numbers on average?

Thanks!

 

[dnuggett]

Originally posted by: p1800volvo
What is the average OC in AMD speak? Like my 2500 XP hitting 3200? What will the mobil hit in AMD numbers on average?

Thanks!

No such thing. Give it a try and see. They do overclock well, but anyone who gives you an answer to this question is lying to you.

 

[Jayavarman]

Originally posted by: dnuggett

Originally posted by: p1800volvo
What is the average OC in AMD speak? Like my 2500 XP hitting 3200? What will the mobil hit in AMD numbers on average?

Thanks!

No such thing. Give it a try and see. They do overclock well, but anyone who gives you an answer to this question is lying to you.

Very true. It's not a simple answer like that. EVERY chip, whether Intel/AMD/ATi/Nvidia is unique. There's no guarantee nothing when it comes to overclocking, the only guarantee is that the chip will run stable at its spec'd speed, that is it. It's really is a crap shoot.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Jayavarman
Skoorb,
Sorry, I didn't clarify myself. They would exchange w/o restock fee, if the product you bought is defective. Or, this is what I did, I ordered a mobile 2400 on 2/24/04. The mobile 2500 was out of stock at that time. Then on the next day, 2/25/04, the mobile 2500 was in stock again. So I call looked up my mobile 2400 order, it's already shipped. So I called Newegg and they said to go ahead and order the mobile 2500, and when I get both CPUs, just RMA the mobile 2400 and explain what happened and they will refund me 100%. But I guess this would not apply in your case or GZG's. Sorry for the confusion.

And yes, the mobile 2500 is exactly the same as the desktop 2500, except that it's default vcore is 1.45 and it's unlocked. What better thing can you ask for eh? And yes, they will work with any mobo that supports the socketA.

Good luck.

OK cool Now, what about the 2400+ mobile? Why would one buy the 2500+ if the 2400+ is like $22 cheaper? Are they really the same core? I'm happy with my 2500+ at 2050mhz...or rather I would be if not for the fact that most people get 2200 mhz or more and I get penis envy. I think perhaps a replacement would cost me less than $30, though I wouldn't do it unless I was reasonably guaranteed that I could hit 2300 mhz or more.

Don't waste your money on a 2400, people around the boards here seem to be getting lesser overclocks out of those. I like my 2600, it does 2.5 ghz at 1.75V, P95 stable overnight. What helps is the default clock speed is much higher on the 2600s.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

yes, and my mobile 2400+ runs at mobile 2600+ speeds @ 1.45V...

It's all a gamble, but I don't believe you can really lose big with any of these chips. If you don't like higher risks and bigger payoffs, then by all means go with the 2600 over a 2400 or 2500.

 

[Buickbeast]

Don't waste your money on a 2400, people around the boards here seem to be getting lesser overclocks out of those. I like my 2600, it does 2.5 ghz at 1.75V, P95 stable overnight. What helps is the default clock speed is much higher on the 2600s.

Ha, I wouldn't call a 2400+ a waste, mine's prime stable 2.6ghz @ 1.725. The stepping is all that matters, and I'm glad I paid $25 less too


Anyways, I would suggest to anyone that is wanting a "great overclocker" is to buy 3-5 of the cpu's and keep the best one. Unless you can find a place to hand pick mobile processors', that's your best bet

 

[Jayavarman]

Anyways, I would suggest to anyone that is wanting a "great overclocker" is to buy 3-5 of the cpu's and keep the best one. Unless you can find a place to hand pick mobile processors', that's your best bet

Is that how you manage to get the good 2400? I don't agree with your suggestion at all. What do you do with the rest, return it back to the vendor? That's sad. I'd hate to do business with you.

 

[Buickbeast]

no, I never said that. You sell them in for sale threads and cut your losses.

 

[BigFatCow]

Originally posted by: Buickbeast
no, I never said that. You sell them in for sale threads and cut your losses.

hardly seems worth it for a couple hundred mhz.

 

[Buickbeast]

Originally posted by: BigFatCow

Originally posted by: Buickbeast
no, I never said that. You sell them in for sale threads and cut your losses.

hardly seems worth it for a couple hundred mhz.

true, but that same statement can be said for all overclocking. It's not about the cost or time spent but about the fun getting there
I don't even game with this cpu, lol.